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Pay to play still?
I honestly don’t understand the whole play to play thing still! I mean back with WoW (when it was strong) I understood! But, now??? With everyone going to free to play or pay for the game and free play (GW2) I couldn’t imagine too many people wanting to pay monthly to play this thing! Am I wrong???
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You are wrong.
I'd choose P2P over F2P any day, even if they have a cash shop (provided it's cosmetic only).
My main issue is I don't want to have to pay for every little thing. I don't want to have to constantly unlock features, etc. If I am going to play a game and it's considered F2P I usually pay for the "Gold"-style membership. I want to have it all unlocked at once.
I've just started playing it and I enjoy it. When you only have 2 posts on this forum, it may be better to state positive opinions in order to build your reputation and a thoughtful poster rather than posting, what may be characterized by mahy as a trolling post. Zei gesundt.
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free to play games hae a certain "cheap" feeling to them. tera does not have that. will it stay p2p? probably not, but i think there are enough people willing to p2p to keep it that way for a while.
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Though I have to admit he has a point.
how is Tera free to play??? are paying monthly??? nots not free!!! sorry!
this is a TERA thread genius. thanks for looking.
I rather enjoy the fact that i dont have to check out a cash shop everytime i log onto a game wondering what the new HOT item is to ROFLSTOMP my competition. If i wanted to shop Id go to a mall or a supermarket or whatever. Even in these harsh economical times shelling out 10-20 euros a month for entertainment that lasts you well over any other form of entertainment youd get for 20 euros seems like a bargain to me.
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Guild Wars 2 is a different game entirely. It's not free-to-play, it's buy-to-play. Totally different. Free to play games usually, and I say USUALLY, require you to buy content packages (small chunks of the game) and such to continue leveling your character. They, as someone mentioned previously, have a cheapened quality to them and are usually not up to the same standard as say, World of Warcraft. The only two "F2P" games that I'll acknowledge as being good, and only because they were once P2P would be LotRO and EQ2, and only because I actually pay for the "Gold"-type packages.
Guild Wars2 is indeed an MMO (unlike it's predecessor GW1), but it is buy-to-play and it too will have a cash shop. We have no idea what they're officially going to be selling in there. They will also require that you buy a new expansion on a regular basis to continue further. I am certainly not saying its a bad game, though currently it seems to have some stability issues, but this will be fixed by launch - of that I am sure. Unfortunately it doesn't seem as though many gaming companies are following, in terms of buy-to-play (B2P). You would think since Guild Wars 1 did so well with their B2P-scheme that other companies would have followed that, but they didn't. Guild Wars 2 follows the B2P plan, perhaps it will begin to change companies thoughts on the standard $14.99/mo but so far, no one else has followed suite.
However, on the topic of standard F2P games such as "A Perfect World," "Ether Saga," or "Runes of Magic," these being off the top of my head, I can say that their F2P plans blow large chunks, are incredibly expensive to play long-term and in my opinion have that cheap quality to them, as mentioned previously.
These of course, are just my opinions though shared by many, there are some people who like these F2P games that I mentioned. I just prefer to get as much bang-for-my-buck as possible and these traditional F2P games are more expensive than need be so I avoid them.
TERA is a great game. It doesn't need to go F2P, at least at this point. People who want games like this to go F2P just don't want to pay a monthly fee, for whatever reason. I'd personally prefer getting an entire games worth of content for one fee, than paying in increments.
SWG was not the first MMO, in fact, no where near it. Lol. Meridian59 would be classified, usually, as the first MMO which was released in 1996 followed by Ultima Online in 1997.
TERAs expansions in Korea have all been free, there were two of them and En Masse has stated expansions are not charged for, that's basically $80 saved right there.
Also about what you said for GW2, i'd take a sub in TERA over what GW2 has going any day. I don't want to have to pay to get another character slot, bank tab, and bag slot amongst various other things and more to be added on top of expansions every 5 months.
I'd love for all games to keep it P2P with a cosmetic cash shop and free expansions, the way TERA has it set up to me is perfect, as long as it stays this way.
Guild Wars 2 is not f2p it's b2p. It will have a cash shop and it's not out yet so we haven't seen whether or not this model works i the long run.
Would I prefer to always buy a game and not pay a fee? yes. would I prefer to buy a game and pay a fee each month instead of having the game carved up and me always being hit in the face with a hand and a $ sign a la f2p?
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Please look at my first post! I said FTP or buy the game and play free!
and SWG was an example!
Free games dont tend to have the same quality as a game you have to pay for. There are some very wonderful exceptions like Vindictus for example or games that used to charge but turned into F2P such as EQ, LOTR and DDO.
Tera is high quality. So is The Secret World.
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Completely agree with you, the landscape of gamers is changing and these companies who are still holding onto the old notion that a monthly fee is necessary (which is a lie btw it's been proven mathematically wrong by companies like Arenanet) are holding onto a thread just barely able ot make a profit. The only game that has not lost it's large numbers yet is WoW and that's for two reasons. 1: people paid for the year long subs 2: people don't want to leave their friends as many of them have had friends they made through their first experiences with WoW.
B2P is the way to go. Freemium was a good tool so long as the companies didn't abuse it by putting gear in the store that one can't get in game.
All in all once GW2 releases people will finally see just how great the B2P model is and will wonder why they wasted all that subscription money in the first place to play other games. If they don't then they enjoy being taken for a ride so to speak by having their funds pretty much stolen from them on a monthly basis imo. What's the phrase, there's a sucker born every second?
There is already a GW2 vs TERA thread, they (the mods and admins of this website) have asked to keep all GW2 and TERA debate to that thread.
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ITs still fairly new...They are trying to make money while they can.....Also as you can see alot of gamers still think that p2p is always better than f2p, even though that really is not the case anymore.
It is when expansions are free and you can cancel sub and resub when one comes out.
$15 sub vs $40-60 for an expansion, also I don't need to pay to unlock a character slot, bank tab, bag slot and various other things.
If TERA stays cosmetic with free expansions, the model is better than GW2 imo, especially with inaugral pricing to reduce sub cost anyways.