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almost forgot, lets look at the math for a second.
Pay to play games $60 to buy, each expansion (which you must have btw no opt out) is $60, meanwhile you are paying $99 a year to play a game and that's if you pay for the year long sub, the game is much more expensive to play monthly $180.
Buy to play games $60 to buy, they may or may not charge for expansions the same amount but even if they did use the same pricing model, $60 , and then nothing else needed. These companies have updates with new content without the need for a sub, and thus is the huge difference.
Both models btw have shops so that point is moot at this point, the shops for B2P games have been well known to be optional entirely. Even many freemium model games are optional shopping only like LOTRO.
Face it people the sub only model is entirely too expensive and a dying method. It's time for something new.
And WoW was a full-fledged MMO, while GW2 was a crappy CORPG. And not a particularly good one at that.
ItGrowls when all is said and done i'd bet you'll spend more in GW2 than a P2P game. Also, expansions have been and will be free for TERA from what's been told.
I don't mind a monthly sub. but either lower the price to $5-7 a month
OR free expansions.
No way should I have paid for every WOW exp with a continious $15 a month sub.
Monthly subs. should be enough now days to cover new content if companies
want to keep a player base.
Thing is you paid for maybe 2 expansions in wow for a 7 year period. If gw had the same expansion updates then youd pay 60 dollars every 6 months. Wow kept 12 mill subscribers due to all the content update. Gw did not
Yes, of course it still is pay to play.
Are you smoking crack or something??? GW2 is making most if not all MMOs look at how they are designed and the way they charge! Soon if games dont follow GW2 model... they will not exist!
I think its sad that people are willing to pay more money for a less quality game through a ridiculous cash shop than to pay a monthly sub for a quality game.
However i also believe any sub based game should not have a cash shop, thats also beyond ridiculous.
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The model where we are not entitled to many parts of the game and have to pay for multiple $40 or more expansions a year? Sounds expensive to me.
P2P VS B2P like buying Diesel jeans over Levi, some people just like to spend more money on the same thing. I like my Diesel jeans too mind you, but thats not all i wear.
That's great. But the people at WoW have discovered they can charge and get what they want and therefore they get more money.
The chief reason for a business to exist is to get money.
So "sure" I love the GW model. But if in the long run the business can't make money they it's kind of a wash. There was an interview with the Arena Net where they said that part of the issue with GW was that all the different iterations of each expansion were getting too expensive to develop given the amount of money they were bringing in.
That's why they wanted to do GW2 differently so that they could have some sort of solid foundation that they wouldn't have to make too many changes with each expansion.
Now it remains to be seen whether their cash shop will be able to bring in the money they want.
As long as a company can make enough money to develop a game then I'm all for paying less money. But if a company has to close its game because they can't make enough money to keep it open then that does me no good.
And as long as I think I'm getting value for money I'm happy.
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Eno you made this thread with only two posts and I gave you the benefit of the doubt you were sincerely questioning us by asking if you were wrong.
When we say why we like P2P you ignore it and anytime someone praises GW2 or the f2p model you quote them or make a post. Just another ravenous GW2 fan checking in to ruin other boards.
"GW2 is redifining...blah..blah...soon if games don't go like the GW2 model, they won't exist!"
Edit: Look underneath this post to see the ravenous fan in action on other games boards, he didn't show it in the OP, but he's finally let it out.
/sigh
Agreed. The sub only method will prob last another 1 to 2 years (3 years max! - unlikely).
B2P/F2P w/ CS is the future of mmo gaming, for good and for bad.
Anyone can make claims, but where are your facts? What bugs are you speaking of? I witnessed none in TERA, from closed betas all the way through launch the game was bug free.
And again, why did you create this topic to debate TERA vs GW2 when there are already 100 threads on this topic? :-(
Nobody said GW2 sucks or that you are an idiot.
Stop being foolish and go take up your place on the GW2 board.
Thanks.
TERA is still Pay 2 Play and will be for another while.
/end thread !
Why did i create this topic???
Pay to play… still?
The question... Why are people wanting to pay monthly for content!
Done! have fun wasting your money!
//Thread Closed!
I've said it once and i'll say it again, GW2 b2p model attracts children.
This is a fine example.
It's their decision... P2P also acts like a nice filter to weed out people like you.
I will always prefer P2P over F2P games if I can... 9 out of 10 times the community is much much better than the average F2P game. That alone is already worth the monthly fee!!