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ESO: Not Using HeroEngine

WoebringerWoebringer Member UncommonPosts: 9
in Elder Scrolls Online

A good friend of ours is involved in the ESO Project and just shared this link with me.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx?fb_ref=.T7_qxmabB4c.like&fb_source=home_oneline

 

I was firmly in the camp of HeroEngine...er.....um..... BITTER BEER FACE! when I heard my friend was going to work for Zenimax and would be attached to ESO.   

 

After learning that HeroEngine was only being used as a "whiteboard" I feel better.  

 

Not saying the game is Greatness / Sorriness / WoW-killer / Miracle / Mana from Heaven / Trash / A Life-Changing Event;

I have not actually played so much as an Alpha / Beta / Demo / Shareware copy.

What I am saying is that No HeroEngine = GOOD DEAL image

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  • letsxhatletsxhat Member Posts: 156

    Now we're talking

  • kevjardskevjards Member UncommonPosts: 1,452
    Originally posted by Woebringer

    A good friend of ours is involved in the ESO Project and just shared this link with me.

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx?fb_ref=.T7_qxmabB4c.like&fb_source=home_oneline

     

    I was firmly in the camp of HeroEngine...er.....um..... BITTER BEER FACE! when I heard my friend was going to work for Zenimax and would be attached to ESO.   

     

    After learning that HeroEngine was only being used as a "whiteboard" I feel better.  

     

    Not saying the game is Greatness / Sorriness / WoW-killer / Miracle / Mana from Heaven / Trash / A Life-Changing Event;

    I have not actually played so much as an Alpha / Beta / Demo / Shareware copy.

    What I am saying is that No HeroEngine = GOOD DEAL image

    dont know if its just me but the artwork or picture they had there looked more like something out of conan..just my opinion though.

  • letsxhatletsxhat Member Posts: 156

    I thought it looked like the Dream engine too.

  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253

    Yes, I just finished reading this same post... Apparently, they only licensed the HeroEngine back in 2007 to use as a prototype to sort of "lay things out" while they were coding their own internal graphics engine specifically designed for ESO.

  • SilverbarrSilverbarr Member Posts: 306

    This is great! I was feeling majorly apprehensive about the Hero Engine being used, granted the engine itself is good in development terms but it is antiquated in feel and general workings, now that this has been clarified I have to say that the game has a nice new appeal.

    Also what a great idea to use the Hero Engine to view the art ingame and get a feel for the artistic direction of the game.

    Hopefully the game features and workings will appeal even more once an increased amount of information is released - the screens sure look nice so far anyways - though the Copernicus screens released recently sure gave me a new lease on the "cartoon" art direction. (R.I.P. 38)

     

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  • PyrateLVPyrateLV Member CommonPosts: 1,096

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
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  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

  • BoreilBoreil Member UncommonPosts: 448

    Yep , the game looks amazing.

    image

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Albeit good news for ESO, I still don't like the direction they're taking ESO. The simple fact that their Lead Dev had the gaul to say "If you liked SWTOR, you'll easily be able to adjust to TESO" really put me off almost completely.

     

    At this point, until I actually get my hands on it (via Closed Beta or Open Beta) i won't touch it. They've already managed to generate themselves enough negative hype to warrant such an approach.

     

    ps: They REALLY need to get someone else to take screenshots for them. They're either poorly positioned in order to intentionally NOT give you much detail, or simply just look bad. I'm not sure what's wrong, but those screenshots look like they're from 2006.

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  • BoreilBoreil Member UncommonPosts: 448
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Albeit good news for ESO, I still don't like the direction they're taking ESO. The simple fact that their Lead Dev had the gaul to say "If you liked SWTOR, you'll easily be able to adjust to TESO" really put me off almost completely.

     

    At this point, until I actually get my hands on it (via Closed Beta or Open Beta) i won't touch it. They've already managed to generate themselves enough negative hype to warrant such an approach.

     

    ps: They REALLY need to get someone else to take screenshots for them. They're either poorly positioned in order to intentionally NOT give you much detail, or simply just look bad. I'm not sure what's wrong, but those screenshots look like they're from 2006.

    You actually proved your self wrong in your own post, you WIll touch it and you ARE interested in the game and how it turns out.

     

    Also the screens look like they are from 2012.

    image

  • PyrateLVPyrateLV Member CommonPosts: 1,096
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

    Oh you are so wrong.

    I really want to play an Elder Scrolls MMO

    Just not the one Zenimax is going to dump on the gaming community.

     

    I feel its my right as a MMO gamer and ES fan to voice my displeasure about it.

    Why do you care so much what my "obsession" is?

    Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
    Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT
    Playing: Skyrim
    Following: The Repopulation
    I want a Virtual World, not just a Game.
    ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081
    Originally posted by Boreil
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Albeit good news for ESO, I still don't like the direction they're taking ESO. The simple fact that their Lead Dev had the gaul to say "If you liked SWTOR, you'll easily be able to adjust to TESO" really put me off almost completely.

     

    At this point, until I actually get my hands on it (via Closed Beta or Open Beta) i won't touch it. They've already managed to generate themselves enough negative hype to warrant such an approach.

     

    ps: They REALLY need to get someone else to take screenshots for them. They're either poorly positioned in order to intentionally NOT give you much detail, or simply just look bad. I'm not sure what's wrong, but those screenshots look like they're from 2006.

    You actually proved your self wrong in your own post, you WIll touch it and you ARE interested in the game and how it turns out.

     

    Also the screens look like they are from 2012.

    That made absolutely zero sense. I clearly stated unless I get real hands on experience with it, and that it proves to be a 180degree turn on what is reported about it, that I will NOT buy it. I am NOT interested in it at all currently. 

     

    What part of this were you confused about?

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  • CujoSWAoACujoSWAoA Member UncommonPosts: 1,781

    Thats a lovely screenshot and all...

    and it is nice news to have no connection to SWTOR such as the dirty hero engine...

    But, eh... still not excited about this game. As of yet.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081
    Originally posted by PyrateLV
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

    Oh you are so wrong.

    I really want to play an Elder Scrolls MMO

    Just not the one Zenimax is going to dump on the gaming community.

     

    I feel its my right as a MMO gamer and ES fan to voice my displeasure about it.

    Why do you care so much what my "obsession" is?

    I'm concerned at the mindset of players nowadays that think that if you don't agree with them that they shouldn't post whatsoever. 

    It's obvious that quite a few ES fans are completely put off with the direction they're taking the MMO. Why in the hell would you make an MMO based on an existing franchise if you're not going to target that specific audience?

    Can anyone say cash grab? That's what it looks like anyways :(.

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  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Member UncommonPosts: 793

    I'm interested in this game. Not from a gameplay point though. I'm interested in seeing what the payment model will be and how they plan to keep people subscribed with an MMO that has alienated at least some vocal portion of the TES singleplayer playerbase by abandoning core TES features.

    Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566

    it wouldnt make sense to use any engine that they didnt completely own at this point.

     

    especially when they have access to Carmack.

    Games i'm playing right now...
    image

    "In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com

  • NevulusNevulus Member UncommonPosts: 1,288
    Originally posted by Woebringer

    A good friend of ours is involved in the ESO Project and just shared this link with me.

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx?fb_ref=.T7_qxmabB4c.like&fb_source=home_oneline

     

    I was firmly in the camp of HeroEngine...er.....um..... BITTER BEER FACE! when I heard my friend was going to work for Zenimax and would be attached to ESO.   

     

    After learning that HeroEngine was only being used as a "whiteboard" I feel better.  

     

    Not saying the game is Greatness / Sorriness / WoW-killer / Miracle / Mana from Heaven / Trash / A Life-Changing Event;

    I have not actually played so much as an Alpha / Beta / Demo / Shareware copy.

    What I am saying is that No HeroEngine = GOOD DEAL image

    Please enlighten me about your experience with the hero engine, any code examples online? Or are you just basing this opinion on a game I rather not mention. How do you know the Hero Engine is to blame?

     

    Ok with your 1 post, it is difficult to take this post, or "your friend" serious. Sorry. 

  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by PyrateLV
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

    Oh you are so wrong.

    I really want to play an Elder Scrolls MMO

    Just not the one Zenimax is going to dump on the gaming community.

     

    I feel its my right as a MMO gamer and ES fan to voice my displeasure about it.

    Why do you care so much what my "obsession" is?

    The game's been in development for 5 years and has only one year to go.... It's tab-targetted, race/faction locked, 3rd person vew, and fixed class... Do you really think any of that's going to change in the next year because you voiced your opinion? No, it is not. The MMO you want is not the MMO they're making, they simply can't please everybody, sorry. With that, I'd like to point out that even though you say you have no intention of playing a game with these aspects, and you KNOW they're not going to completely change the game around for you at this point, you STILL spend on awful lot of time on this forum, whining about a game, as I said, you have no intention of playing [mod edit]

  • SilverbarrSilverbarr Member Posts: 306

    As much as i think a 'Bethesda-like' MMO would be interesting, I really think that Zenimax Online doing there own thing is a great idea now, for instance it allows the franchise to grow, it allows for Tamriel to be something more than just a first person RPG.

     

    For example, the books created in the TES universe are amazing, yet they aren't about your character they are about the world and the story, much like the MMO.

     

    I hope a lot of people will give them a chance to show a new look on Tamriel, myself included :) believe me I have reservations but giving it a chance being a mainly MMO gamer nowadays :)

     

    Check out thew video interviews from here: http://origin-www.gameinformer.com/p/elderscrollsonline.aspx

    many interesting things disclosed.

     

    Also, this doesn't look like a cash grab - merely opening up the franchise, much like FO3 did with the FO universe...

     

    M

    "Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys. Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
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  • QallidexzQallidexz Member Posts: 253
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb
    Originally posted by PyrateLV
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

    Oh you are so wrong.

    I really want to play an Elder Scrolls MMO

    Just not the one Zenimax is going to dump on the gaming community.

     

    I feel its my right as a MMO gamer and ES fan to voice my displeasure about it.

    Why do you care so much what my "obsession" is?

    I'm concerned at the mindset of players nowadays that think that if you don't agree with them that they shouldn't post whatsoever. 

    It's obvious that quite a few ES fans are completely put off with the direction they're taking the MMO. Why in the hell would you make an MMO based on an existing franchise if you're not going to target that specific audience?

    Can anyone say cash grab? That's what it looks like anyways :(.

    I never said that if you don't agree with me, you shouldn't post, I asked why someone with no intention of playing a game, would spend a significant amount of time posting on a forum dedicated to that game, which they have no intention of playing? [mod edit]

  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Member UncommonPosts: 793
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV
    Originally posted by Qallidexz
    Originally posted by PyrateLV

    Still going to be a Heavily Phased, Tab-target, Race/Faction Locked, Fixed Class based, Formulaic Themepark game

    Curious why you're so obsessed with posting in a forum that's specifically for a game you have no intention of playing?

    Oh you are so wrong.

    I really want to play an Elder Scrolls MMO

    Just not the one Zenimax is going to dump on the gaming community.

     

    I feel its my right as a MMO gamer and ES fan to voice my displeasure about it.

    Why do you care so much what my "obsession" is?

    The game's been in development for 5 years and has only one year to go.... It's tab-targetted, race/faction locked, 3rd person vew, and fixed class... Do you really think any of that's going to change in the next year because you voiced your opinion? No, it is not. The MMO you want is not the MMO they're making, they simply can't please everybody, sorry. With that, I'd like to point out that even though you say you have no intention of playing a game with these aspects, and you KNOW they're not going to completely change the game around for you at this point, you STILL spend on awful lot of time on this forum, whining about a game, as I said, you have no intention of playing... 

     [mod edit]

    ProTip: If you don't like what other people post, you can block them.

    Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  • PyrateLVPyrateLV Member CommonPosts: 1,096
     [mod edit]

    Tried: EQ2 - AC - EU - HZ - TR - MxO - TTO - WURM - SL - VG:SoH - PotBS - PS - AoC - WAR - DDO - SWTOR
    Played: UO - EQ1 - AO - DAoC - NC - CoH/CoV - SWG - WoW - EVE - AA - LotRO - DFO - STO - FE - MO - RIFT
    Playing: Skyrim
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  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398

    Ya'll should read these articles..

    http://origin-www.gameinformer.com/p/elderscrollsonline.aspx

    http://neocron-game.com/ - now totally F2P no cash-shops or micro transactions at all.
  • SilverbarrSilverbarr Member Posts: 306

    BTW to touch on what I wrote above, the video interviews with Paul Sage - lead on Ultima Online, show that they really are trying to make the best game they can - whether this occurs or not is yet to be seen ofcourse. :)

     

    M

    "Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys. Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
    - Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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  • letsxhatletsxhat Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

    Thats a lovely screenshot and all...

    and it is nice news to have no connection to SWTOR such as the dirty hero engine...

    But, eh... still not excited about this game. As of yet.

    Not excited, but slightly interested.

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