If you have never played the game or no longer intend to play the game, how could it possibly matter if others do.
It matter's because this game represents the worst elements of tthe gaming industry, and its failing will send the right kind of message to future investors.
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What I don't understand is why server sturctures today seem capable of housing fewer consecutive connections than those in the past like EverQuest. We should have been in the age of Super Servers 5 years ago, where 10's of thousands play at the same time on one server world.
This is one of the best things about EVE. After playing that game I have friends from all over the world that I keep in contact with.
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Sometimes I don't get you people. This is actually a very good move by Bioware. Should they have had this at launch? Hell yeah! Have they lost a huge number of subscribers? Yeah. Will it be much easier for them to hold onto players if they let everybody play on the same server so the remaining players don't feel that the game is dead? Of course it helps! It's also a much better solution than server merges.
Anyway, as I mentioned this tech is already in The Secret World which is the game I am waiting for and I have never played SWTOR, so I am not some fanboy standing up for Bioware. Anyway, just keep on hating and don't let me disturb you.
Sometimes I don't get you people. This is actually a very good move by Bioware. Should they have had this at launch? Hell yeah! Have they lost a huge number of subscribers? Yeah. Will it be much easier for them to hold onto players if they let everybody play on the same server so the remaining players don't feel that the game is dead? Of course it helps! It's also a much better solution than server merges.
Anyway, as I mentioned this tech is already in The Secret World which is the game I am waiting for and I have never played SWTOR, so I am not some fanboy standing up for Bioware. Anyway, just keep on hating and don't let me disturb you.
Nobody is saying that this is a bad idea. In fact, it should happen sooner.
What people are talking about is that BioWare insults our intelligence by spinning everything as if we didn't know better.
Having higher pop servers and consolidating the playerbase is obviously a good thing. So now that players will actually be able to find groups, will they just quit faster after seeing how easy it is to fully gear up?
If I am to believe what I have been reading lately than they would either need to merge their current servers or find alot more players to make use of this tech.
Swtor is spread to thin, if they can pull this off by adding 4 Mega Servers PvP,PvE,PR & PvP-PR using zone sharding this will in fact make the game a different game all together, picture a server where every zone has 300 players on each zone with multiple shards holding another 300 players, holy crap this would be crazy fun.
If they can pull this off my hats off to Bioware, they just saved Swtor in one patch.
Totally agree! As the number 1 reason I left because both servers I played on turned into ghost towns and couldn't be arsed to reroll all over again on a new server.
Bioware licensed the old beta-iteration of the Hero-Engine and completely butchered... ehh modified the whole engine.
So if they actually have the technological expertise InHouse to pull this off, it's not impossible.
I mean, Unreal Engine 3 doesn't really support Super Server tech either, but SOE managed to do it with DCUO, when they merged all the servers into two Super Servers per region. PVE and PVP.
If I am to believe what I have been reading lately than they would either need to merge their current servers or find alot more players to make use of this tech.
Swtor is spread to thin, if they can pull this off by adding 4 Mega Servers PvP,PvE,PR & PvP-PR using zone sharding this will in fact make the game a different game all together, picture a server where every zone has 300 players on each zone with multiple shards holding another 300 players, holy crap this would be crazy fun.
If they can pull this off my hats off to Bioware, they just saved Swtor in one patch.
Yes that will be huge. excited for some of these changes. I have not had too much excitement lately regarding TOR. I hope this is also an indicator that they will allow me to cross server my legacy as well.
Ofcourse it is! But in the end it doesn't matter! As what's important for any MMO is to have everyone playing on high populated servers, so you can enjoy ALL content that is available and thus being able to find and see other players running around next to you.
The reason I threw the towel in the ring last month, was because I was fed up of being the only one on the entire planet each time I logged in. Not my idea of playing a MMO.
What I don't understand is why server sturctures today seem capable of housing fewer consecutive connections than those in the past like EverQuest. We should have been in the age of Super Servers 5 years ago, where 10's of thousands play at the same time on one server world.
because its ea.. super low caps killed warhammer.. or was one of main reasons.. 500 per side, that shit was seriously wrong.. blizard launched wow with 3-5k concurent cap, then after multiple server upgrades it was around 10k.. might be more or less now.. who knows, its not about technology its about being cheap and getting cheap servers
What I don't understand is why server sturctures today seem capable of housing fewer consecutive connections than those in the past like EverQuest. We should have been in the age of Super Servers 5 years ago, where 10's of thousands play at the same time on one server world.
because its ea.. super low caps killed warhammer.. or was one of main reasons.. 500 per side, that shit was seriously wrong.. blizard launched wow with 3-5k concurent cap, then after multiple server upgrades it was around 10k.. might be more or less now.. who knows, its not about technology its about being cheap and getting cheap servers
This. SW:TOR has already the Instancing tech in place. What they didn't had obviously was proper hardware to handle higher concurrent connections per Game Server (realm).
So I guess they now finally got some new "decent" hardware that can handle a lot more concurrent connections.
It wouldn't suprise me one single bit (as it's EA afterall) if SW:TOR is running on the old Warhammer Online servers. It would make perfect sense as to why the game launched with so many servers and so ridiculously low concurrent user caps! The exact same problem that plagued Warhammer Online and became eventually it's downfall.
I'm more interested as to why "The Fatman" is so popular. It's kind of ironic really.
I play on The Fatman, I rerolled a few months back and because of this I am still subbed, The Fatman made a World of a difference in my enjoyment playing Swtor, if Bioware can pull this off I truly feel this will help the game out tremendously, to me and many others a large community is what makes a MMO fun, if they nail this right this will bring in more subs no question about it.
That is my worry, the Hero engine really isn't made for loads of players in one zone at a time without problems,but from my understanding Bioware uses a striipped down version of the Hero engine, I'm no programmer but if it's anything like cars then you technically can modify a Honda Civic to go as fast as a Ferrari.
That is my worry, the Hero engine really isn't made for loads of players in one zone at a time without problems,but from my understanding Bioware uses a striipped down version of the Hero engine, I'm no programmer but if it's anything like cars then you technically can modify a Honda Civic to go as fast as a Ferrari.
During launch, the zones/planets had roughly 70-80 players per instance.
If they can at least get that kind of load back per instance, it will already make a huge difference.
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It matter's because this game represents the worst elements of tthe gaming industry, and its failing will send the right kind of message to future investors.
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But it's still going to be boring at endgame. When will they do something about that?
I'm more interested as to why "The Fatman" is so popular. It's kind of ironic really.
This is just a way to cover their behinds when they drop 90% of the current servers.
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
This is one of the best things about EVE. After playing that game I have friends from all over the world that I keep in contact with.
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
Sometimes I don't get you people. This is actually a very good move by Bioware. Should they have had this at launch? Hell yeah! Have they lost a huge number of subscribers? Yeah. Will it be much easier for them to hold onto players if they let everybody play on the same server so the remaining players don't feel that the game is dead? Of course it helps! It's also a much better solution than server merges.
Anyway, as I mentioned this tech is already in The Secret World which is the game I am waiting for and I have never played SWTOR, so I am not some fanboy standing up for Bioware. Anyway, just keep on hating and don't let me disturb you.
Nobody is saying that this is a bad idea. In fact, it should happen sooner.
What people are talking about is that BioWare insults our intelligence by spinning everything as if we didn't know better.
TOR's problems are multi-tiered.
Having higher pop servers and consolidating the playerbase is obviously a good thing. So now that players will actually be able to find groups, will they just quit faster after seeing how easy it is to fully gear up?
I still see no longevity.
More lies and marketing nonsense coming from EA/Biofail since the HERO Engine is not engineered for such a system.
http://hewiki.heroengine.com/wiki/FAQ
http://hewiki.heroengine.com/wiki/Area_FAQ#Players
Totally agree! As the number 1 reason I left because both servers I played on turned into ghost towns and couldn't be arsed to reroll all over again on a new server.
Bioware licensed the old beta-iteration of the Hero-Engine and completely butchered... ehh modified the whole engine.
So if they actually have the technological expertise InHouse to pull this off, it's not impossible.
I mean, Unreal Engine 3 doesn't really support Super Server tech either, but SOE managed to do it with DCUO, when they merged all the servers into two Super Servers per region. PVE and PVP.
Nice PR spin.
Yes that will be huge. excited for some of these changes. I have not had too much excitement lately regarding TOR. I hope this is also an indicator that they will allow me to cross server my legacy as well.
Ofcourse it is! But in the end it doesn't matter! As what's important for any MMO is to have everyone playing on high populated servers, so you can enjoy ALL content that is available and thus being able to find and see other players running around next to you.
The reason I threw the towel in the ring last month, was because I was fed up of being the only one on the entire planet each time I logged in. Not my idea of playing a MMO.
PS. OP might have better linked this instead: http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-may-25th-2012-%E2%80%93-special-edition-game-update-1.3
The server transfer feature is more explained there.
because its ea.. super low caps killed warhammer.. or was one of main reasons.. 500 per side, that shit was seriously wrong.. blizard launched wow with 3-5k concurent cap, then after multiple server upgrades it was around 10k.. might be more or less now.. who knows, its not about technology its about being cheap and getting cheap servers
This. SW:TOR has already the Instancing tech in place. What they didn't had obviously was proper hardware to handle higher concurrent connections per Game Server (realm).
So I guess they now finally got some new "decent" hardware that can handle a lot more concurrent connections.
It wouldn't suprise me one single bit (as it's EA afterall) if SW:TOR is running on the old Warhammer Online servers. It would make perfect sense as to why the game launched with so many servers and so ridiculously low concurrent user caps! The exact same problem that plagued Warhammer Online and became eventually it's downfall.
I play on The Fatman, I rerolled a few months back and because of this I am still subbed, The Fatman made a World of a difference in my enjoyment playing Swtor, if Bioware can pull this off I truly feel this will help the game out tremendously, to me and many others a large community is what makes a MMO fun, if they nail this right this will bring in more subs no question about it.
Server merges 6 months after release. I guess it follows the normal triple A Themepark schedule.
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The appropriate spin is to announce they are turning the servers into trial servers. people actually believe that one.
That is my worry, the Hero engine really isn't made for loads of players in one zone at a time without problems,but from my understanding Bioware uses a striipped down version of the Hero engine, I'm no programmer but if it's anything like cars then you technically can modify a Honda Civic to go as fast as a Ferrari.
Ehh wasn't that's Trion with RIFT. Think you mixing up a little.
During launch, the zones/planets had roughly 70-80 players per instance.
If they can at least get that kind of load back per instance, it will already make a huge difference.
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they need to take advantage of merge all servers into one technology.