Reminds me of an ealier post, where someone commented that the WvW takes 2 weeks, and then said "who has time for this" ...haha!!
Its just like I said before, many of todays gamers are spoiled and impatient, they want it all and they want it right this second.
No. I just want to feel immersed and experience actual excitement now and then when I play any kind of RPG. GW2 isn't doing that for me ... at all.
My point was, your comparing GW2 to games like Fallout NV, which is like comparing apples and oranges.
Then you use that false comparison to bash GW2, when they are not even the same game, at all. Basicaly, you want GW2 to be something it is not, its not the games fault, its you.
I wasn't comparing them.
I was only stating what I was going to do instead of playing the GW2 beta.
I am feeling a bit worn down by all the dynamic events. I thought they would be a cool "addition" to general questing, but "IT FEELS like I am constantly getting into DE". It's wearing a bit thin for me.
Umm the whole game is basically made up of Dynamic Events. This has been known for many many years. The lack of generic questing is why most people are excited about the game.....
QFT. I just spend 2 hours following npcs and seeing how stories are unfoulding before my eyes. One ended with rebuilding the bridge, other with conquering a centaur outpost. Sure I was killing 10 this, and escorting that but it really felt alive and dynamic. I can't say that about any mmo with normal quests now =/
Not sure. I simply want some challenge, excitement and depth to gameplay and to be immersed. Whether I am playing a mmorpg or a single player rpg, a themepark or a sandbox. So far GW2 hasn't done that much to draw me in on any of those particular reigns. Maybe it's like some people say and it's a case of mmorpg burnout, at least fantasy themepark burnout.
*calls his doctor for a cure*
Pony, i think you might have the right of it here. This is by no means a derogatory statement or any kind of a bash but i've been feeling the complete opposite. I do feel challenged, excited, and completely immersed by the landscape, sounds, and events going on around me. I can understand unwrapping something and just looking at it going, "ok, this just the same thing in a different package" but i found that one thing helped here: Suspending disbelief. I know what the events are and what their function truly is, but i don't allow myself to see it. I instead dive into the landscape and have fun. I haven't been able to do this in an mmo in years. Different experiences for everyone i guess, although i do hope it grows on you at some point.
I actually have had a lot of fun, though I think I'm playing it completely differently from you. I find myself leaving a lot of hearts behind, and spent a lot of time screaming 'oh shit!' over mumble as I come running past my friend being chased by something scary, until we either manage to beat it down together, or he can finagle the monster away enough that I could be rezzed.
I'm pretty sure the other people int he mumble channel thought I was a ravening incompetent, though my excuse was and still is that being 4-5 levels behind can be kind of painful, especially when you're fighting champions and veterans.
It was fun though! For me. Oddly enough, I get the impression that if I was playing the same way you were, I might have been bored out of my mind too! I tended to use hearts as a replacement for idling, certainly not as any sort of meaningful content.
Aye, maybe I need to try different things. But so far the staple world content isn't doing much for me. Even generic, quest based, incentivised content like in Swtor has felt more fun and rewarding (rewarding as in: "compelling").
its good that you clarified why the game was less immersive for you
- for me, what makes GW2 immersive is all the exploring you can do
the pve is more of exploring in my opinion,discover the world and your story. the real challange lies on the structure pvp for me . you cant do some skill rotation to win, u must know your skills and your opponent skills with a load of variation and non gear dependant pvp. honestly im enjoying the pvp more than the pve (but the pve itself is one of the best pve in games i played). an insta lvl 80 means you can use all the class to pvp (playing 5 to max class just to try pvping with that class is wasting too much time).
There are other things to do in GW2 than quest. I would recommend ignoring hearts and go exploring ( you get decent experience for that). Try crafting out as well.
There is so much more to do than simply fight battle after battle after battle and then burn yourself out. Play the game like an RPG, not like a typical MMO. You'll find it much more rewarding.
"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days those are now the only two states youll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2
I actually have had a lot of fun, though I think I'm playing it completely differently from you. I find myself leaving a lot of hearts behind, and spent a lot of time screaming 'oh shit!' over mumble as I come running past my friend being chased by something scary, until we either manage to beat it down together, or he can finagle the monster away enough that I could be rezzed.
I'm pretty sure the other people int he mumble channel thought I was a ravening incompetent, though my excuse was and still is that being 4-5 levels behind can be kind of painful, especially when you're fighting champions and veterans.
It was fun though! For me. Oddly enough, I get the impression that if I was playing the same way you were, I might have been bored out of my mind too! I tended to use hearts as a replacement for idling, certainly not as any sort of meaningful content.
Aye, maybe I need to try different things. But so far the staple world content isn't doing much for me. Even generic, quest based, incentivised content like in Swtor has felt more fun and rewarding (rewarding as in: "compelling").
its good that you clarified why the game was less immersive for you
- for me, what makes GW2 immersive is all the exploring you can do
Exactly! People are so accustomed to the hand-holding that they are waiting to be led to the next point. Get out and look at everything and don't worry about events or anything unless you want to at that moment.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I personally love the game. For a themepark. It is the best one out to date and by a long shot. I will be playing it for a very long time to come.
That being said, I understand where pony is coming from (except the compelling swtor comment, unless my sith inquisitor line was the only bad apple). I'm a sandbox fan first and foremost as well and there's just nothing that compares to that player generated excitement. Sadly, outside of eve we have nothing to fill that hole with. Yet.
My advice to you pony, and anyone else in our shoes, just enjoy this for what it is. A casual game to sink time until something better comes along. Do what I'm doing and play 1 toon. Maybe try everything once. Achieve everything once. And play it mainly for the WvW or sPvP, whichever floats your boat. Both are fun.
Originally posted by Nethriil I ll enjoy playing this a bit but cant see the longterm Play here. Wvwvw is just so anonymous and i dont see the arena bit that i enjoyed in wow. What i really dont comprehend is the need to have 2 week battles before you Get a winner. Who has time for this????
Originally posted by Nethriil I ll enjoy playing this a bit but cant see the longterm Play here. Wvwvw is just so anonymous and i dont see the arena bit that i enjoyed in wow. What i really dont comprehend is the need to have 2 week battles before you Get a winner. Who has time for this????
I am enoying the game very much! Only reason I wetn to bed last night is because the power went out lol. The only thing i am disappointed about i i cannot play as an Asura! I want to be Asura!
It just really isn't exciting at all. Loved Guild Wars 1 but this is not cutting it. The dodge and roll combat is like console gameplay slapped onto a pc. Meele is still severely broken. When you solo anything more than 2 mobs at you are dead as meele. Overall I think this game was meant for the younger generation of players, you know the ones who are just starting out. ArenaNet seems to be catering to the younger crowd. They want to make simple easy games for the casuals. I need something more intense, more mature themed to keep me interested.
What level are you and what class exactly ? Because on my warrior which is lvl 21 currently i'm not really having any problems with 3 mobs at a time
I actually have had a lot of fun, though I think I'm playing it completely differently from you. I find myself leaving a lot of hearts behind, and spent a lot of time screaming 'oh shit!' over mumble as I come running past my friend being chased by something scary, until we either manage to beat it down together, or he can finagle the monster away enough that I could be rezzed.
I'm pretty sure the other people int he mumble channel thought I was a ravening incompetent, though my excuse was and still is that being 4-5 levels behind can be kind of painful, especially when you're fighting champions and veterans.
It was fun though! For me. Oddly enough, I get the impression that if I was playing the same way you were, I might have been bored out of my mind too! I tended to use hearts as a replacement for idling, certainly not as any sort of meaningful content.
Aye, maybe I need to try different things. But so far the staple world content isn't doing much for me. Even generic, quest based, incentivised content like in Swtor has felt more fun and rewarding (rewarding as in: "compelling").
its good that you clarified why the game was less immersive for you
- for me, what makes GW2 immersive is all the exploring you can do
Exactly! People are so accustomed to the hand-holding that they are waiting to be led to the next point. Get out and look at everything and don't worry about events or anything unless you want to at that moment.
Don't get your hopes up about that one. I always loved exploring. I'd much prefer it if there wouldn't be any kind of hints and hearts on the map, actually. It's the content itself which I find lacking. They way how content is presented (guided or not) is a completely different matter.
Don't get your hopes up about that one. I always loved exploring. I'd much prefer it if there wouldn't be any kind of hints and hearts on the map, actually. It's the content itself which I find lacking. They way how content is presented (guided or not) is a completely different matter.
Reminds me of an ealier post, where someone commented that the WvW takes 2 weeks, and then said "who has time for this" ...haha!!
Its just like I said before, many of todays gamers are spoiled and impatient, they want it all and they want it right this second.
No. I just want to feel immersed and experience actual excitement now and then when I play any kind of RPG. GW2 isn't doing that for me ... at all.
My point was, your comparing GW2 to games like Fallout NV, which is like comparing apples and oranges.
Then you use that false comparison to bash GW2, when they are not even the same game, at all. Basicaly, you want GW2 to be something it is not, its not the games fault, its you.
I wasn't comparing them.
I was only stating what I was going to do instead of playing the GW2 beta.
It could have been "doing the dishes" too.
Speaking of which ...
Ummm.. ok, I guess theres nothing more I can say to someone who enjoys washing dishes over playing GW2.
Such a shame what they've done to Guild Wars. OP is right on the money, they advertise 'dynamic' events but it's just spam everyone spamming and same thing over and over again. I'm trying to get into the story line but it's not as immersive as GW1. The combat leaves a lot to be desired, all the attacks look the same so I just fall asleep but keep pressing 1234 till the enemy is dead. What happened to the graphics? When GW1 came out it looked amazing, walking through Ascalon everyone was in awe, but nothing seems to have really been improved upon which is ashame.
The only amazing thing about this game is the music, Jeremy Soule always outdoes himself. Just ashame the game isn't the same.
Have to say i played in 2 betas so far and i am having trouble staying in the game..has one person said it maybe down to the fact i,m in the noobie area.and also maybe down to the fact i am very weary of playing betas,you kind of get a bit of deja-vu.i dont want to spend too much time in betas like i did with rift.i just got bored in the end.once its released i may see things differently.i just dont want to do the same thing in each beta i suppose.time will tell..either way i got this and lotro ,so no more money to pay out either way..well if you dont count expansion packs.
About 7 million people do the same content in Diablo 3 over and over again and it s the best game at the moment.... Now we have Gw2 we have we have so many things to do, exploring, pvp, pve, wvwvw, crafting, tournaments, puzzles, looking for treasure, Personal story, minigames and people complain about the game being repetitious
About 7 million people do the same content in Diablo 3 over and over again and it s the best game at the moment.... Now we have Gw2 we have we have so many things to do, exploring, pvp, pve, wvwvw, crafting, tournaments, puzzles, looking for treasure, Personal story, minigames and people complain about the game being repetitious
Spoiled is the word I think we are looking for here. People are looking for a miracle short of being physically transformed into their characters and being transported into the game itself. I'm not sure what they are looking for. Instead of saying it's boring and repetitive, suggest what it needs and go from there. Complaining is just an excuse for lack of working out a problem. Fix it, don't just bitch. I have yet to see what needs to be done in this thread by the complainers, only the whining.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Mephster Played about 3 hours of it today and I must say I really got bored. Event upon event upon event and it repeats itself through out the entire game. It is like they took WoW quests and changed them into scripted events, how dull. You do the same thing over and over again. They need to make events more exciting. Event bosses are boring as hell, they just stand there and spew things out at you. I wouldn't exactly call that exciting. Long time fan here but I'm afraid ArenaNet has dropped the ball on this one. Never thought I would see that happen. Graphics are nice but graphics alone do not make a good mmo. Perhaps I'll check out Dust 514 or Planetside 2. I think I am done with the basic fantasy mmo with a twist. These types of mmos have been done before time and time again.
Thanks for your opinion, thank goodness it's subjective.
By your own words it seems you are interested in another genre in the first place(FPS).
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I wasn't comparing them.
I was only stating what I was going to do instead of playing the GW2 beta.
It could have been "doing the dishes" too.
Speaking of which ...
My brand new bloggity blog.
in his defense,
he states later in this thread that he played in BWE1 w several characters beyond the starting area
its for BWE2 that he only played 3 hours because BWE had just started
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its wasnt intentional but it gave the impression that you would rather be playing XX
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QFT. I just spend 2 hours following npcs and seeing how stories are unfoulding before my eyes. One ended with rebuilding the bridge, other with conquering a centaur outpost. Sure I was killing 10 this, and escorting that but it really felt alive and dynamic. I can't say that about any mmo with normal quests now =/
Pony, i think you might have the right of it here. This is by no means a derogatory statement or any kind of a bash but i've been feeling the complete opposite. I do feel challenged, excited, and completely immersed by the landscape, sounds, and events going on around me. I can understand unwrapping something and just looking at it going, "ok, this just the same thing in a different package" but i found that one thing helped here: Suspending disbelief. I know what the events are and what their function truly is, but i don't allow myself to see it. I instead dive into the landscape and have fun. I haven't been able to do this in an mmo in years. Different experiences for everyone i guess, although i do hope it grows on you at some point.
its good that you clarified why the game was less immersive for you
- for me, what makes GW2 immersive is all the exploring you can do
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the pve is more of exploring in my opinion,discover the world and your story. the real challange lies on the structure pvp for me . you cant do some skill rotation to win, u must know your skills and your opponent skills with a load of variation and non gear dependant pvp. honestly im enjoying the pvp more than the pve (but the pve itself is one of the best pve in games i played). an insta lvl 80 means you can use all the class to pvp (playing 5 to max class just to try pvping with that class is wasting too much time).
There are other things to do in GW2 than quest. I would recommend ignoring hearts and go exploring ( you get decent experience for that). Try crafting out as well.
There is so much more to do than simply fight battle after battle after battle and then burn yourself out. Play the game like an RPG, not like a typical MMO. You'll find it much more rewarding.
"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days those are now the only two states youll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2
Exactly! People are so accustomed to the hand-holding that they are waiting to be led to the next point. Get out and look at everything and don't worry about events or anything unless you want to at that moment.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
That being said, I understand where pony is coming from (except the compelling swtor comment, unless my sith inquisitor line was the only bad apple). I'm a sandbox fan first and foremost as well and there's just nothing that compares to that player generated excitement. Sadly, outside of eve we have nothing to fill that hole with. Yet.
My advice to you pony, and anyone else in our shoes, just enjoy this for what it is. A casual game to sink time until something better comes along. Do what I'm doing and play 1 toon. Maybe try everything once. Achieve everything once. And play it mainly for the WvW or sPvP, whichever floats your boat. Both are fun.
I'm a unique and beautiful snowflake.
Lol, yes, Oh boy.
Yup, it's a classic.
And no doubt the first of many...
I am enoying the game very much! Only reason I wetn to bed last night is because the power went out lol. The only thing i am disappointed about i i cannot play as an Asura! I want to be Asura!
What level are you and what class exactly ? Because on my warrior which is lvl 21 currently i'm not really having any problems with 3 mobs at a time
Don't get your hopes up about that one. I always loved exploring. I'd much prefer it if there wouldn't be any kind of hints and hearts on the map, actually. It's the content itself which I find lacking. They way how content is presented (guided or not) is a completely different matter.
My brand new bloggity blog.
i agree that detracts from the fun of exploring
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Ummm.. ok, I guess theres nothing more I can say to someone who enjoys washing dishes over playing GW2.
Have fun!
Such a shame what they've done to Guild Wars. OP is right on the money, they advertise 'dynamic' events but it's just spam everyone spamming and same thing over and over again. I'm trying to get into the story line but it's not as immersive as GW1. The combat leaves a lot to be desired, all the attacks look the same so I just fall asleep but keep pressing 1234 till the enemy is dead. What happened to the graphics? When GW1 came out it looked amazing, walking through Ascalon everyone was in awe, but nothing seems to have really been improved upon which is ashame.
The only amazing thing about this game is the music, Jeremy Soule always outdoes himself. Just ashame the game isn't the same.
Repetitive
^
That Word.
Is not negative in a mmorpg.
Mmorpg is designed to be repetitive to keep people interested while the developers create new content.
If you find yourself bored because a game is repetitive then you are in the wrong gaming sub-genre.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Have to say i played in 2 betas so far and i am having trouble staying in the game..has one person said it maybe down to the fact i,m in the noobie area.and also maybe down to the fact i am very weary of playing betas,you kind of get a bit of deja-vu.i dont want to spend too much time in betas like i did with rift.i just got bored in the end.once its released i may see things differently.i just dont want to do the same thing in each beta i suppose.time will tell..either way i got this and lotro ,so no more money to pay out either way..well if you dont count expansion packs.
About 7 million people do the same content in Diablo 3 over and over again and it s the best game at the moment.... Now we have Gw2 we have we have so many things to do, exploring, pvp, pve, wvwvw, crafting, tournaments, puzzles, looking for treasure, Personal story, minigames and people complain about the game being repetitious
Spoiled is the word I think we are looking for here. People are looking for a miracle short of being physically transformed into their characters and being transported into the game itself. I'm not sure what they are looking for. Instead of saying it's boring and repetitive, suggest what it needs and go from there. Complaining is just an excuse for lack of working out a problem. Fix it, don't just bitch. I have yet to see what needs to be done in this thread by the complainers, only the whining.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Thanks for your opinion, thank goodness it's subjective.
By your own words it seems you are interested in another genre in the first place(FPS).
But I thought Guild Wars 2 was doing away with all that... Isn't it supposed to be the next coming?
You can talk all you want about innovation but when you deliver the same shit people are gonna be bummed out.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!