Originally posted by zethcarn Funny how you say this. WoW is the most boring piece of crap I've played in awhile. It's too easy, horrible graphics, horrible community, unfinished game, very unstable servers, little to no immersion, absolutely no sense of RP, and a completely overhyped RIPOFF of the Warcraft NAME. EQ2 on the other hand, while definetly not perfect, holds my attention much better and it has steadily improved since launch.
OMG what a load of....
1) I don't think it is too easy... So there is no long hours of grinding like I guess you like?
2) The graphics are great! They have a different style from EQ2 but by no means horrible!
3) The community is very good!
4) I agree that some things need to be added and should have been at launch... waiting impatiently for them!
5) I have had no problems with stability! I heard other people have some probs but I have had none!
6) What? There is immersion, I think the quest and storyline with them is great!
7) There is a lot of RP'ing but of course you don't have to if you don't want to.
8) It's not a rippoff!
9) you are a troll!
Both games have there ups and downs but WoW is not horrible!
'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"
So reality do bite for the real trolls too then? You know, the ones going to another games forum, a game they havent played, that their only opinion is based from the guildchat in that *other* game?
VG Nett, norways largest newspaper posted an article named "World of Losers" yesterday. One of their writers obviously burned out on the game and bashed it *real* hard. Needless to say he was flamed down pretty hard, but still a fair number those replying did give him a bump. I failed to get the greatness of that game 3 times now, first in US stress, then US open beta, and last in EU live.
Fact is Eq2 is the mmorpg thats innovative right now. Fact is that speaking of content and features Eq2 is the mmorpg growing fastest. Fact is that Eq2 is just as easy to get into as wow.
Wow is a great game, but its not *that* good. Eq2 is an underrated game, and I'm positively sure a few of the bashers here would be suprisped if they actually did give it a month and some 30 levels before writing another bash in this forum.
Originally posted by Bilas Originally posted by zethcarn Funny how you say this. WoW is the most boring piece of crap I've played in awhile. It's too easy, horrible graphics, horrible community, unfinished game, very unstable servers, little to no immersion, absolutely no sense of RP, and a completely overhyped RIPOFF of the Warcraft NAME. EQ2 on the other hand, while definetly not perfect, holds my attention much better and it has steadily improved since launch. OMG what a load of.... 1) I don't think it is too easy... So there is no long hours of grinding like I guess you like? 2) The graphics are great! They have a different style from EQ2 but by no means horrible! 3) The community is very good! 4) I agree that some things need to be added and should have been at launch... waiting impatiently for them! 5) I have had no problems with stability! I heard other people have some probs but I have had none! 6) What? There is immersion, I think the quest and storyline with them is great! 7) There is a lot of RP'ing but of course you don't have to if you don't want to. 8) It's not a rippoff! 9) you are a troll! Both games have there ups and downs but WoW is not horrible!
I have to agree with most of that, while I don't play WoW currently I did beta it and enjoyed it, I just wasn't compelled to buy it and take on another monthly. I did decide to play EQ II however, a large reason why was because of Sony All Access since I already had an EQ 1 account and I am very glad I did go that route, I am loving EQ II. But other then the obvious issues with WoW at the moment I feel its a great game and may revisit it in the future.
I like the style of it, the graphics, the questing. I don't care for PvP however. But overall I think WoW is a very good game, I just prefer EQ II at the moment.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Buy EQ2 only if you have a new strong system, and like new content and tweaks done almost bi-monthly.
Oh don't listen to the customer service crap, I and my friends have had no problems getting support or answers in EQ2 via the support systems, I admit we have not always got the answer we wanted, but we got help, and answers.
For the EQ2 bashers...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Bash away even negative comments, get people curious to see for themselves, so thank you for the good work!! SoE appriciates your dedication to bringing popularity to their game
Originally posted by Knoxay Ok, you're right. You have to grind to all the content in the game. I must not be seeing any content at all since I haven't grinded any yet, and I'm only level 38. I must have not completed 7 challenging "heritage" quests that give me very nice items, personal status points, and status for my guild (which increases it's level and opens up guild "perks" like reduced cost of mounts and being able to live in the main part of the city). And since I'm only level 38 there's no way that I have access to raid zones yet, except the ones I did through out my teens and twenties and the one I do now in my 30's. And the 250+ quests I've completed must not exist either. And don't get me started on the dungeons, I mean there are only dozens of quests related to each one.So basically that was my sarcastic rant. I'm sure you'll just dismiss it all by saying "it lacks substance" (whatever that means), and that SOE is using a Jedi mind trick on me (if you will) to make me THINK I've had fun playing this game and going through it's content, when really the game I've been playing the past few months has been pong. DAMN YOU SOE!And I didn't say most people wouldn't see half of it, I said most people wouldn't see ALL of it.
Nah, I'm not like that. I could probably try it again (considering I played it in january, might be new stuff by now) but it still doesn't get rid of the bad taste in my mouth left by 80% of all SoE games they make.
You and many other people are right, Sony is focusing a lot into this game...at the expense of their other games...
Personally, I could care less if you think it's a good game or not, I personally thought it sucked when I tried it, and it felt like the typical cookie-cutter MMO.
Plus, I am in the definition of what some would call a casual gamer in that I just don't have the time to play their game forever in hopes of somehow managing to get anywhere anytime fast. I'll try it again, later, might make a nice complement to WoW, assuming my computer can run it with any effectiveness still...
Originally posted by OnyxBMW Originally posted by Knoxay Ok, you're right. You have to grind to all the content in the game. I must not be seeing any content at all since I haven't grinded any yet, and I'm only level 38. I must have not completed 7 challenging "heritage" quests that give me very nice items, personal status points, and status for my guild (which increases it's level and opens up guild "perks" like reduced cost of mounts and being able to live in the main part of the city). And since I'm only level 38 there's no way that I have access to raid zones yet, except the ones I did through out my teens and twenties and the one I do now in my 30's. And the 250+ quests I've completed must not exist either. And don't get me started on the dungeons, I mean there are only dozens of quests related to each one.So basically that was my sarcastic rant. I'm sure you'll just dismiss it all by saying "it lacks substance" (whatever that means), and that SOE is using a Jedi mind trick on me (if you will) to make me THINK I've had fun playing this game and going through it's content, when really the game I've been playing the past few months has been pong. DAMN YOU SOE!And I didn't say most people wouldn't see half of it, I said most people wouldn't see ALL of it.
Nah, I'm not like that. I could probably try it again (considering I played it in january, might be new stuff by now) but it still doesn't get rid of the bad taste in my mouth left by 80% of all SoE games they make.
You and many other people are right, Sony is focusing a lot into this game...at the expense of their other games...
Personally, I could care less if you think it's a good game or not, I personally thought it sucked when I tried it, and it felt like the typical cookie-cutter MMO.
Plus, I am in the definition of what some would call a casual gamer in that I just don't have the time to play their game forever in hopes of somehow managing to get anywhere anytime fast. I'll try it again, later, might make a nice complement to WoW, assuming my computer can run it with any effectiveness still...
Your story is falling apart more. Now its you hate SOE, and your disliking for EQ II seems to come from that. And ontop of it yet another but, you are a casual gamer. Well guess what, so I am, thats what makes EQ II so perfect. Its very fitting into the casual gamer needs, but your arguement was that the game was horrible, not because you hate SOE, but because it lacked content, etc etc.
Sony is not focusing into EQ II at the expense of other games, you REALLY show your drawing for straws now. The combat revamp is coming for SWG, they just annouced the Kashyyk expansion for it as well. Everquest 1 just received a new expansion pack and still gets patched regularly. Would you like to try one last time to concrete something down? I really question wether you ever played the game at this point.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
this game is no where close to being for casual gamers.
the experience debt for your party members dying is enough to make a casual gamer cry.
then theres the crafting system which is so interlocked with needs from other crafters that it really only makes it feasable for someone in a large zerg guild.
the variation of mobs for the first 30 levels is basically non-existent. so much so that you get titles for killing the same mob over 500 times! That is a jedi mind trick to get you think that a treadmill is actually content.
Originally posted by superhero13 this game is no where close to being for casual gamers. As pointed out elsewhere, COMPETENT casual gamers do perfectly well. the experience debt for your party members dying is enough to make a casual gamer cry. Exp debt is inconsequential. Some of you want not only no penalty for death but also a box of candy. If you cry over that, wait until you try RL then theres the crafting system which is so interlocked with needs from other crafters that it really only makes it feasable for someone in a large zerg guild. Wrong. Try to keep up. the variation of mobs for the first 30 levels is basically non-existent. so much so that you get titles for killing the same mob over 500 times! That is a jedi mind trick to get you think that a treadmill is actually content. Absolutely false. this game blows. of course WoW blows too.
What board are you going to go troll on next? Thanks for stopping by though with your usual supply of false information, er, I mean "honest opinion"
I consider myself a fairly casual gamer. I only have time in my life for maybe 2 hours a day...at BEST...usually more like 1-1.5. I've hit level 12 (1/3 way to 13) in 5 days and am having fun.
XP debt is minimal if you bother to get your soul shard. 3% can be bough off in 15 minutes or so...not a big deal at lower levels.
Crafting is incredibly easy to do by yourself. I have NO clue where you got THAT information.
Lack of variety in mobs? Um...ok...I've fought...lemme think...what, 20 different mobs in 12 levels? Thats NOT including varients of other mobs...like skeleton casters and warriors and knights...etc.
If it blows, I guess we wont be seeing you in either one. Too bad, they are really fun if you give them a chance.
Originally posted by superhero13 this game is no where close to being for casual gamers. the experience debt for your party members dying is enough to make a casual gamer cry. then theres the crafting system which is so interlocked with needs from other crafters that it really only makes it feasable for someone in a large zerg guild. the variation of mobs for the first 30 levels is basically non-existent. so much so that you get titles for killing the same mob over 500 times! That is a jedi mind trick to get you think that a treadmill is actually content. this game blows. of course WoW blows too.
What's funny about superhero is that while he claims to hate both EQ2 and WoW, you don't see him posting anything on the WoW boards.
thank you Wickes, saved me the trouble of answering troll boy.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I disagree on the exp debt, even though its minimal, its still annoying and not casual player-friendly. I dont want no candy box, but i dont want to spend even 15 minutes to reclaim what ive lost becuase of lag. WoW has nice death penalty, u loose some cash repairing items, but not the exp becuase exp = time, and time is not something casual player can forfeit. Money on the other hand is a byproduct of your time, its valuable, but not critical.
I tried EQ2 for several days, its a nice game, it has its good and bad sides. What I didnt like is character models, they just sucked - biggest turn off for me. I also encountered a bugged quest early in the game (where i had to collect some lost items for some lady and i could find only 2, finaly, after an hour of searching, someone told me to zone out).
The biggest reason why I did not buy EQ2 is because to me, it lacks soul. Its hard to explain, sometimeswhen you look at a picture, you sort of "get" it, and other pictures u just go "huh?". So far WoW and Planetside are games that keeps my attention and im looking forward to Murning, Dark and Light and Vanguard.
If you are a casual player, you should consider trying WoW as well. In my experience, WoW is more casual player friendly, its more simple, user and PC friendly. And dont believe if someone says its an easy game, a game for babies. Its as easy as you make it to be. Those who claim it to be easy either never played it, or were hunting green mobs and never went into instances of their level. If you do decide to try WoW, make a char on a server that doesnt have problems, there are several servers that constantly lag out or crsh, but others are fine. I play on Magtheridon, a PvP server, and I rarely have any server/lag related issues.
I dont want people to accuse me of being WoW fanboi so Ill throw in a couple of line in support of EQ2: EQ2 has THE best ambient graphics and ambient animation on the market(minus the horrible character models) Period. I also loved the voice of NPCs. A very nice touch.
Oh, hello Mr. Soul, I dropped by to pick up a reason For the thought that I caught that my head is the event of the season Why in crowds just a trace of my face could seem so pleasin' I'll cop out to the change, but a stranger is putting the tease on.
Thank you all who posted and gave me constructive information either good or bad, I think i may try it at some point (mabey next week) but i have one more question. Are the items droped or created unique, if you have ever played diablo2 or UO u knwo what i mean, like is each wep different or are they all normal iron swords then u can get a iron sword +1, or can you get a magic iron sword with x damage increase, x swing speed increase (ais), x this and x that. So ya please give me a hand there, also what is the best server to play on?
Originally posted by jimmyman99 I disagree on the exp debt, even though its minimal, its still annoying and not casual player-friendly. I dont want no candy box, but i dont want to spend even 15 minutes to reclaim what ive lost becuase of lag. WoW has nice death penalty, u loose some cash repairing items, but not the exp becuase exp = time, and time is not something casual player can forfeit. Money on the other hand is a byproduct of your time, its valuable, but not critical.I tried EQ2 for several days, its a nice game, it has its good and bad sides. What I didnt like is character models, they just sucked - biggest turn off for me. I also encountered a bugged quest early in the game (where i had to collect some lost items for some lady and i could find only 2, finaly, after an hour of searching, someone told me to zone out). The biggest reason why I did not buy EQ2 is because to me, it lacks soul. Its hard to explain, sometimeswhen you look at a picture, you sort of "get" it, and other pictures u just go "huh?". So far WoW and Planetside are games that keeps my attention and im looking forward to Murning, Dark and Light and Vanguard.If you are a casual player, you should consider trying WoW as well. In my experience, WoW is more casual player friendly, its more simple, user and PC friendly. And dont believe if someone says its an easy game, a game for babies. Its as easy as you make it to be. Those who claim it to be easy either never played it, or were hunting green mobs and never went into instances of their level. If you do decide to try WoW, make a char on a server that doesnt have problems, there are several servers that constantly lag out or crsh, but others are fine. I play on Magtheridon, a PvP server, and I rarely have any server/lag related issues.I dont want people to accuse me of being WoW fanboi so Ill throw in a couple of line in support of EQ2: EQ2 has THE best ambient graphics and ambient animation on the market(minus the horrible character models) Period. I also loved the voice of NPCs. A very nice touch.Peace
Actually Jimmy, the debt thing has been serioously nerfed, its nothing like it used to be as long as you go reclaim you souls. I died 4 times today helping a friend and never went over 4% debt.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
About Debt. It was most visible for me before level 25. After its something like 1% if someone dies. This was before they tuned it down btw. I never understood why people got so worked up about it. Guess its one of those "half empty, half full" situations. Its a dangerous thing to say, but if you get tunel-vision on that tiny red spot on your xp bar, you got the wrong focus while playing. Concentrate on the battle and your role in the team instead and that red spot wont be noticeable at all.
Only time it sucks is when you team with people that panic and start running for their shards one of the time. However, most teams are sensible and work as a team to recover from a death. Once you can team with players that have "escape" you wont experience the disasters either. Unless of course you play with ignorant fools, but then debt is the least of your problems.
Nihiliant gave the best advice. Try out both games if you can afford them. to me, WoW is better then EQ2, although i tried EQ2 after i played WoW for a while and i judged EQ2 through WoW prysm. Both games are fine games, both have strong and weak sides. Other players can give u hints ow what to expect but only you can realy answer your own question: do you like this game or not. Try EQ2 first becuase you can get a buddy key. Im not sure if WoW has budy keys, you might have to buy it. If you choose WoW, make sure you ask around WoW forums for a server that doesnt have problems, because there are few servers that constantly crash, but most of them are OK. I play on Magtheridon, its a PvP server and it doesnt have problems. regarding EQ2 exp debt, I havent played EQ2 long enough to realy get a taste of whats it like at higher levels, i play 2 games already, 3rd is too much for me.
I never played WoW so I cant comment on that game. Something about the cartoony graphics dont agree with me.
Now I played EQ2 for a LiL over 2 months and I have many comments about it. As far as graphics I love it. The graphics are top notch. But if I wanna play with just pretty graphics I'd play with my screen saver. This game is a huge piece of crap wrapped in pretty graphics. It's fundamentally flawed to the point that it isnt worth playing. I actually found myself making exscuses to my ingame friends so that I could camp.
But dont take my word for it. Go to the ratings and feedback page and read everyone's comments. With about 90% of the people leaving negative feedback I cant see how it has held on to a 7.4 rating. Even though I had purchased a 3 month subscription I had this game deleted in only 2 months.
Darktania
Dont be afraid of the Dark. Be afraid of what's in it.
No specific reasons for the complaint...just a "it sucks" and "everyone else says so, so it must be true"...yah...thanks.
The reason the rating is so low is because as many people LIKE EQ2, more people like WoW and they can't bare that another game that they dont play has a high score...so many of them gave it accross the board low scores without ever having touched the game.
WoW: Graphics - 9.0 - lol:) RP - 8.5 - yeah the most rp rpg i've ever seen:) with question and exclamation marks above npc heads:) and radar on minimap:) 10 emots... :P Community - 8.3 - hehe:) Performance / Lag, Customer Service - 8.4 - unbelievable:)
and comments like this: "I gave WoW an all around 10 because of the simple reason that they are doing great."
summary: World of Warcraft is the best game ever:)
Originally posted by ds123 hehe rankings:))for example:WoW: Graphics - 9.0 - lol:) RP - 8.5 - yeah the most rp rpg i've ever seen:) with question and exclamation marks above npc heads:) and radar on minimap:) 10 emots... :P Community - 8.3 - hehe:) Performance / Lag, Customer Service - 8.4 - unbelievable:)and comments like this: "I gave WoW an all around 10 because of the simple reason that they are doing great."summary: World of Warcraft is the best game ever:)
lol people are silly aren't they? Everyone knows the best game ever is PONG.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Pong ROCKS! And since this thread has now been hijacked by the WoW people when the question was about EQ II, I am done with this thread. I am tired of seeing it happen time and time again, I will follow Nil's lead.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
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OMG what a load of....
1) I don't think it is too easy... So there is no long hours of grinding like I guess you like?
2) The graphics are great! They have a different style from EQ2 but by no means horrible!
3) The community is very good!
4) I agree that some things need to be added and should have been at launch... waiting impatiently for them!
5) I have had no problems with stability! I heard other people have some probs but I have had none!
6) What? There is immersion, I think the quest and storyline with them is great!
7) There is a lot of RP'ing but of course you don't have to if you don't want to.
8) It's not a rippoff!
9) you are a troll!
Both games have there ups and downs but WoW is not horrible!
'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"
So reality do bite for the real trolls too then? You know, the ones going to another games forum, a game they havent played, that their only opinion is based from the guildchat in that *other* game?
VG Nett, norways largest newspaper posted an article named "World of Losers" yesterday. One of their writers obviously burned out on the game and bashed it *real* hard. Needless to say he was flamed down pretty hard, but still a fair number those replying did give him a bump. I failed to get the greatness of that game 3 times now, first in US stress, then US open beta, and last in EU live.
Fact is Eq2 is the mmorpg thats innovative right now. Fact is that speaking of content and features Eq2 is the mmorpg growing fastest. Fact is that Eq2 is just as easy to get into as wow.
Wow is a great game, but its not *that* good. Eq2 is an underrated game, and I'm positively sure a few of the bashers here would be suprisped if they actually did give it a month and some 30 levels before writing another bash in this forum.
I have to agree with most of that, while I don't play WoW currently I did beta it and enjoyed it, I just wasn't compelled to buy it and take on another monthly. I did decide to play EQ II however, a large reason why was because of Sony All Access since I already had an EQ 1 account and I am very glad I did go that route, I am loving EQ II. But other then the obvious issues with WoW at the moment I feel its a great game and may revisit it in the future.
I like the style of it, the graphics, the questing. I don't care for PvP however. But overall I think WoW is a very good game, I just prefer EQ II at the moment.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Buy EQ2 only if you have a new strong system, and like new content and tweaks done almost bi-monthly.
Oh don't listen to the customer service crap, I and my friends have had no problems getting support or answers in EQ2 via the support systems, I admit we have not always got the answer we wanted, but we got help, and answers.
For the EQ2 bashers...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Bash away even negative comments, get people curious to see for themselves, so thank you for the good work!!
SoE appriciates your dedication to bringing popularity to their game
Nah, I'm not like that. I could probably try it again (considering I played it in january, might be new stuff by now) but it still doesn't get rid of the bad taste in my mouth left by 80% of all SoE games they make.
You and many other people are right, Sony is focusing a lot into this game...at the expense of their other games...
Personally, I could care less if you think it's a good game or not, I personally thought it sucked when I tried it, and it felt like the typical cookie-cutter MMO.
Plus, I am in the definition of what some would call a casual gamer in that I just don't have the time to play their game forever in hopes of somehow managing to get anywhere anytime fast. I'll try it again, later, might make a nice complement to WoW, assuming my computer can run it with any effectiveness still...
Nah, I'm not like that. I could probably try it again (considering I played it in january, might be new stuff by now) but it still doesn't get rid of the bad taste in my mouth left by 80% of all SoE games they make.
You and many other people are right, Sony is focusing a lot into this game...at the expense of their other games...
Personally, I could care less if you think it's a good game or not, I personally thought it sucked when I tried it, and it felt like the typical cookie-cutter MMO.
Plus, I am in the definition of what some would call a casual gamer in that I just don't have the time to play their game forever in hopes of somehow managing to get anywhere anytime fast. I'll try it again, later, might make a nice complement to WoW, assuming my computer can run it with any effectiveness still...
Your story is falling apart more. Now its you hate SOE, and your disliking for EQ II seems to come from that. And ontop of it yet another but, you are a casual gamer. Well guess what, so I am, thats what makes EQ II so perfect. Its very fitting into the casual gamer needs, but your arguement was that the game was horrible, not because you hate SOE, but because it lacked content, etc etc.
Sony is not focusing into EQ II at the expense of other games, you REALLY show your drawing for straws now. The combat revamp is coming for SWG, they just annouced the Kashyyk expansion for it as well. Everquest 1 just received a new expansion pack and still gets patched regularly. Would you like to try one last time to concrete something down? I really question wether you ever played the game at this point.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
this game is no where close to being for casual gamers.
the experience debt for your party members dying is enough to make a casual gamer cry.
then theres the crafting system which is so interlocked with needs from other crafters that it really only makes it feasable for someone in a large zerg guild.
the variation of mobs for the first 30 levels is basically non-existent. so much so that you get titles for killing the same mob over 500 times! That is a jedi mind trick to get you think that a treadmill is actually content.
this game blows. of course WoW blows too.
I consider myself a fairly casual gamer. I only have time in my life for maybe 2 hours a day...at BEST...usually more like 1-1.5. I've hit level 12 (1/3 way to 13) in 5 days and am having fun.
XP debt is minimal if you bother to get your soul shard. 3% can be bough off in 15 minutes or so...not a big deal at lower levels.
Crafting is incredibly easy to do by yourself. I have NO clue where you got THAT information.
Lack of variety in mobs? Um...ok...I've fought...lemme think...what, 20 different mobs in 12 levels? Thats NOT including varients of other mobs...like skeleton casters and warriors and knights...etc.
If it blows, I guess we wont be seeing you in either one. Too bad, they are really fun if you give them a chance.
What's funny about superhero is that while he claims to hate both EQ2 and WoW, you don't see him posting anything on the WoW boards.
I smell another WoW fanboy secret agent...
thank you Wickes, saved me the trouble of answering troll boy.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I disagree on the exp debt, even though its minimal, its still annoying and not casual player-friendly. I dont want no candy box, but i dont want to spend even 15 minutes to reclaim what ive lost becuase of lag. WoW has nice death penalty, u loose some cash repairing items, but not the exp becuase exp = time, and time is not something casual player can forfeit. Money on the other hand is a byproduct of your time, its valuable, but not critical.
I tried EQ2 for several days, its a nice game, it has its good and bad sides. What I didnt like is character models, they just sucked - biggest turn off for me. I also encountered a bugged quest early in the game (where i had to collect some lost items for some lady and i could find only 2, finaly, after an hour of searching, someone told me to zone out).
The biggest reason why I did not buy EQ2 is because to me, it lacks soul. Its hard to explain, sometimeswhen you look at a picture, you sort of "get" it, and other pictures u just go "huh?". So far WoW and Planetside are games that keeps my attention and im looking forward to Murning, Dark and Light and Vanguard.
If you are a casual player, you should consider trying WoW as well. In my experience, WoW is more casual player friendly, its more simple, user and PC friendly. And dont believe if someone says its an easy game, a game for babies. Its as easy as you make it to be. Those who claim it to be easy either never played it, or were hunting green mobs and never went into instances of their level. If you do decide to try WoW, make a char on a server that doesnt have problems, there are several servers that constantly lag out or crsh, but others are fine. I play on Magtheridon, a PvP server, and I rarely have any server/lag related issues.
I dont want people to accuse me of being WoW fanboi so Ill throw in a couple of line in support of EQ2: EQ2 has THE best ambient graphics and ambient animation on the market(minus the horrible character models)
Period. I also loved the voice of NPCs. A very nice touch.
Peace
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I dropped by
to pick up a reason
For the thought that I caught
that my head
is the event of the season
Why in crowds just a trace
of my face
could seem so pleasin'
I'll cop out to the change,
but a stranger
is putting the tease on.
ugh
eq2 is a great game, but some people don't like it. try it for yourself and see if you like it. if not oh well.
im tired of seeing threads like this, this is gonna be the last one i respond to.
Schutzbar - Human Warrior - Windrunner Alliance - World of Warcraft
Nihilanth - Kerra Paladin - Blackburrow - EverQuest II
XBL Gamertag - Eagle15GT
Actually Jimmy, the debt thing has been serioously nerfed, its nothing like it used to be as long as you go reclaim you souls. I died 4 times today helping a friend and never went over 4% debt.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
About Debt. It was most visible for me before level 25. After its something like 1% if someone dies. This was before they tuned it down btw. I never understood why people got so worked up about it. Guess its one of those "half empty, half full" situations. Its a dangerous thing to say, but if you get tunel-vision on that tiny red spot on your xp bar, you got the wrong focus while playing. Concentrate on the battle and your role in the team instead and that red spot wont be noticeable at all.
Only time it sucks is when you team with people that panic and start running for their shards one of the time. However, most teams are sensible and work as a team to recover from a death. Once you can team with players that have "escape" you wont experience the disasters either. Unless of course you play with ignorant fools, but then debt is the least of your problems.
Nihiliant gave the best advice. Try out both games if you can afford them. to me, WoW is better then EQ2, although i tried EQ2 after i played WoW for a while and i judged EQ2 through WoW prysm. Both games are fine games, both have strong and weak sides. Other players can give u hints ow what to expect but only you can realy answer your own question: do you like this game or not. Try EQ2 first becuase you can get a buddy key. Im not sure if WoW has budy keys, you might have to buy it.
If you choose WoW, make sure you ask around WoW forums for a server that doesnt have problems, because there are few servers that constantly crash, but most of them are OK. I play on Magtheridon, its a PvP server and it doesnt have problems.
regarding EQ2 exp debt, I havent played EQ2 long enough to realy get a taste of whats it like at higher levels, i play 2 games already, 3rd is too much for me.
Peace
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I never played WoW so I cant comment on that game. Something about the cartoony graphics dont agree with me.
Now I played EQ2 for a LiL over 2 months and I have many comments about it. As far as graphics I love it. The graphics are top notch. But if I wanna play with just pretty graphics I'd play with my screen saver. This game is a huge piece of crap wrapped in pretty graphics. It's fundamentally flawed to the point that it isnt worth playing. I actually found myself making exscuses to my ingame friends so that I could camp.
But dont take my word for it. Go to the ratings and feedback page and read everyone's comments. With about 90% of the people leaving negative feedback I cant see how it has held on to a 7.4 rating. Even though I had purchased a 3 month subscription I had this game deleted in only 2 months.
Darktania
Dont be afraid of the Dark. Be afraid of what's in it.
Wow...THAT was constuctive
No specific reasons for the complaint...just a "it sucks" and "everyone else says so, so it must be true"...yah...thanks.
The reason the rating is so low is because as many people LIKE EQ2, more people like WoW and they can't bare that another game that they dont play has a high score...so many of them gave it accross the board low scores without ever having touched the game.
bah wait till it becomes unpopular and someone will lend it to u
i thought people could spell
hehe rankings:))
for example:
WoW:
Graphics - 9.0 - lol:)
RP - 8.5 - yeah the most rp rpg i've ever seen:) with question and exclamation marks above npc heads:) and radar on minimap:) 10 emots... :P
Community - 8.3 - hehe:)
Performance / Lag, Customer Service - 8.4 - unbelievable:)
and comments like this:
"I gave WoW an all around 10 because of the simple reason that they are doing great."
summary: World of Warcraft is the best game ever:)
lol people are silly aren't they? Everyone knows the best game ever is PONG.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Pong ROCKS! And since this thread has now been hijacked by the WoW people when the question was about EQ II, I am done with this thread. I am tired of seeing it happen time and time again, I will follow Nil's lead.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World