Appears to be the kind of guy who sits in his office surfing social media sites every day.
Does not appear to be a valid authority on sociology, criminology, violence, psychiatry, or anything that might actually make you want to consider him an "Authority". Yep, there he is on Linkedin, he majored in Communication.
Just a game developer supplying opinions outside his areas of expertise. Not an Authority, nothing to see here.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I have been playing violent games for as long as I can remember....
I have yet to go crazy and kill people.. infact its probally helped stop me from going crazy and killnig people LOL..
at the end of the day it is a computer game if someone is messed up enough for it to affect their real world judgement then they are messed up simple as.. a crazy killer is a crazy killer computer games did to make them do it..
It is not the point that you will go crazy and kill people. The point is it desensitizes you to greater and more random violence.
It deteriorates societies moral compass to the point people stand by accepting, often encouraging the perpetuation of these acts.
The number and severity of incidents such as sited below are on a steady increase. This is a real issue, and the correlation to video game violence is getting harder and harder to ignore.
Real life violence may desentitize people to violence but are we really expected to believe that pixels have the same effect?
As for claims that people committed violence after playing a game therefore the game must be to blame, I suspect that's most likely just their lawyers using every possible excuse to try to reduce any sentence.
I have been playing violent games for as long as I can remember....
I have yet to go crazy and kill people.. infact its probally helped stop me from going crazy and killnig people LOL..
at the end of the day it is a computer game if someone is messed up enough for it to affect their real world judgement then they are messed up simple as.. a crazy killer is a crazy killer computer games did to make them do it..
It is not the point that you will go crazy and kill people. The point is it desensitizes you to greater and more random violence.
It deteriorates societies moral compass to the point people stand by accepting, often encouraging the perpetuation of these acts.
The number and severity of incidents such as sited below are on a steady increase. This is a real issue, and the correlation to video game violence is getting harder and harder to ignore.
Violence in games and media has little to no correlation to violent acts. What DOES have a strong correlation is lack of socialization and inattention by parents towards children.
Children who are raised by attentive parents are much less likely to commit violent acts, kids who aren't are more likely.
That's where the correlation lays, not with playing violent videogames.
Games, television, etc, are just scapegoats for bad parenting.
Last time I checked entertainment has always mirrored the violence already taking place in the world not the other way around lol. Weather it be in Movie,TV,Music or Video Games simualted violence does not increase real world violence unless as someone else already said the people or persons committing said violence already had issues to begin with.
You guys are aggressive today. Yes, I understand waht a fallacy is. I thought I made it clear to you in that post, but apparently you have an issue with reading comprehension.
It does say something. And I will say it again.
As video games have gotten more violent, violent crime rates have gone down.
This does not necessarily mean that because people play video games that the crime rates went down. This does not mean whatever you are interpreting it to mean because you are incapable of comprehension. It means what it says.
Here, read these ( argument by innuendo and fallacy of false cause )and you will understand why your argument holds no merit. I'm not trying to personally attack you. I think it is best for you to improve yourself by reading those links.
Argument by innuendo can be thrown out the door because I was explicit in saying there was no correlation.
Fallacy of false clause can be thrown out the window since I never correlated the two.
You are now telling me that I was arguing that the two have a correlation when I specifically said there was none in my original post. Comprehend what you read before you attack.
We don't know if there is a correlation. We can't dismiss that there is a correlation without further relevant scientific studies. Saying "there is no correlation" would be a bad statement to do without actually reading/doing the scientific studies.
I would have to withdraw my old comment regarding that information being as useless as knowing some random person aging. While I see no reason for why there would ever be a correlation between the aging of a random person and the crime rate, there may be one between increased violence in video games and crime rate, which is analogous to "No need to try get information; makes no sense if there would be a correlation" versus "We need more information".
All I'm going to say at this point is I agree with you. Because I do.
The original intent was to give a little info about current crime rates. For whatever reason, people tend to not realize how much the crime rate has actually dropped in the last decade. It helps when discussing with people that are saying violent video games are the bane of our society. Well? Show me the correlation. Because the raw numbers lead me to my own, different hypothesis.
... Which I feel is ok to discuss. I don't personally feel like every sentence of every conversation needs to be fully backed by a 20 year study or be worthless. I think it makes for good discussion and is interesting to think about.
Can someone give me an example of what is classed as Ultra Violent gaming, because to be fair i cant really think of many games that i would say are ultra violent. Some one used an example of Sniper 2 - well that was just putting into games what has been seen for years with CSI, and imo not necessarily ultra violent, well it is certainly no more violent than the intial act. Ok killing may look more violent than it did 12 years ago, but that is more to what consoles/PC are capable of displaying. And if i was to choose a game as being Ultra Violent i would have to pick the 20 year old Mortal Kombat........
Furthermore, if anything is going too far, it's the ESRB. Diablo 3 and Halo are prime examples of them overshooting their ratings system. If people don't stop trying to infringe on the freedom of these companies to express violence ib games, then there is no way that games will ever be considered an art form.
The attack on violent video games needs to die, just like Warren Spector's relevance died 15 years ago.
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what has to stop is businessmen talking about the game industry.
I mean, who the fuck is this guy???
Well, it's a guy that makes family friendly Disney themed games, so I guess he's preaching for his own parish.
Or maybe he reasons: "If game violence gets banned my kind of games will sell much better." The selfish soab.
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It's not that we need less violence. We just need more sex to balance it out. Moderation, I say.
Yep!
Give me more Boobies and Ill stop killing things.
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Originally posted by Sorrow It is not the point that you will go crazy and kill people. The point is it desensitizes you to greater and more random violence.
It deteriorates societies moral compass to the point people stand by accepting, often encouraging the perpetuation of these acts.
The number and severity of incidents such as sited below are on a steady increase. This is a real issue, and the correlation to video game violence is getting harder and harder to ignore.
I have to disagree with you, I am 41 and have been gaming since I was 10 years old (binatone and then atari 2600, Ti99/4a, etc)
Doom I believe was the first good violent game that I played but at 18 I got into coding and and later created my own very mature and very violent adult mud anything went there aslong as it was roleplay and by anything I really do mean anything.
In real life the mud itself became more of a family, the mud is still going 15 years later when ooc bonds and friendships became real and 15 years later our best friends came from that place.
I and my wife have played most of the violent games there are, they can be fun and enjoyable but in no way does it desensitize us to death or make us enjoy real life violence any more.
I can play disturbing games or roleplay a rapist or killer, be the nastiest asshole on the planet in character in game but in real life it never has crossed over at all.
Happily will kill a dog in game but in real life my dog our pet died 2 weeks ago and it hit me like a truck.
Enjoy the challenge and creativity of a game where I can hunt down innocents or kill people, in real life my wife has cancer and next week we change her medication that has a percentage chance of killing her damn right I do not sleep at night thinking about it and no game will ever make me feel that less.
Even if this medication works one day I will have to support my wife when she says enough is enough and wants to stop taking the medication and I bloody well know in my heart that the millions of pixel characters I have shot through the head or cut apart even suffocated in games will have absolutely in no way lessened the thought of that real life death scenario.
We all like excuses, our society is always desperate to find a scape goat or reason for someone going bad, I mean cheating on your wife can now be blamed on "sex addiction" and bullies can blame fathers, rapists can blame being raped etc etc etc.
It is all bullshit, it is far more uncomfortable and scary to realise that we are all the same and it comes down to choice, yes society and situations have an affect but YOU make the choice for bad or worse.
Far easier to find a film to blame or game or desperately come up with an excuse instead of the haunting idea of looking into the mirror and realising I am human both the best and the worst is inside me responsibility is my own.
Strange hmmm.... And if i would say --stop violence, stop the wars, stop with army service, you would probably say-- he is not a patriot. Just stop with that hypocriticism because you would probably give your son or daughter a gun to fight for your country in some desert region of the world but you want to remove violence from games. Well thats ridiculous and i say --lets kill some pixels and save the real people
The games industry is today's scapegoat for society's problems. It used to be the movie industry. Tomorrow, the control freaks willl find something else to whinge about.
This is old and weary argument with some truth, but people seem to throw it out without thinking anymore. People severely underestimate how much mass media influences people's outlook of the world, attitudes and their sensitivity to violence. Why do you think when you hear yet another child in the Middle East being blown up or an incident of rape in the news, you don't think much of it? Maybe you feel a tinge of sadness, but for the most part its something you see all the time and it loses its impact. Now I'm obviously not saying playing hours of gorey video games is going to transform you into a raging psychopath, but the subliminal programming that goes on in your brain with what you view on a regular basis can be pretty surprising. So basically what I'm saying is, your perception of the world is influenced by what you read, see and hear through mass media more then you usually think.
From a lot of the posts in this thread I gather that most people just read the headline? He is basically saying that a mature game does not require extreme amounts of blood, sex, and other extreme acts to be considered mature. He just sounds concerned that the industry is moving in a direction where only games with the said extreme violence, and extreme sexualization will be the status quo.
I completely agree with him that games that do not rely on violence can be equally mature if not more so in most cases. Most games are so tasteless in how they present violence and sexualization that it really goes in the opposite direction of maturity.
Oh well that's just my opinion and interpretation of the article.
I can see both side's points, and I can agree with most of them. However, I just have to say, it's a good way to get out alot of aggression. I'm a pretty grumpy, short-tempered, and anti-social person in real life. For me, it doesn't desensatize me, I know the difference between the real world and a game. I do agree that some games aren't for kids. I can remember playing the original Mortal Kombat...I probably shouldn't have been lol. It didn't turn me into some monster. I think I turned out pretty good. So what if I get into GTA just to run around and kill cops and have sex with hookers and kill them...it's a game. I'd never do that in real life.
Edit: Just my personal opinion, I don't think there should be any censorship anywhere or on anything. I watch tv, they curse, and it's so stupid they bleep it out...everyone in the room knows what they just said, what's the point of it? If you have kids in the room you shouldn't be watching that show. Be responsible and watch things you want your kids to watch. I've read people complaining to HBO over the sex and violence in True Blood and thier kids see it....DON'T WATCH IT! Back in the day when you only had 6 channels on the TV, then I'd be more sympathetic, but today you got at least 50 on basic cable, and if you have HBO you probably have over 100 channels, watch something else lol. I guess I'm one of the few that will decide what my kids can and can't watch. Everyone else wants a governing body to tell them what to do...pretty soon you'll want them to tell you what to eat, how to talk, and what to do...sounds like totalitarianism, and we all know how that turns out...
The games industry is today's scapegoat for society's problems. It used to be the movie industry. Tomorrow, the control freaks willl find something else to whinge about.
Yup.
And before the movie industry it were cartoons and of course unsavory, youth corrupting music. Such as the Beatles. *shakes fist*
Actual issues with real life violence have more to do with the availability of firearms in some countries and malfunctions in parenting, education and proper counseling to recognize and help young people who might become a problem for themselves and others.
p.s. @ the OP: Sex in games a problem? In which games again? In my opinion 99% of the industry is avoiding having any in their games just to prevent tempting the rabbid Anti Porn lobby. Compared to violence, the amount of sex in games is astonishingly low in fact.
Agreed. The US has an issue imo, but I'm not saying it has an effect on RL issues (or that it doesn't). Any amount of violence and gore is okay here, but the human body in its' pure form is wrong. I actually think the conscious or unconscious suppression of sexuality in the US (for the teens, early 20's) is one of our major issues.
I believe it's also why sex sells so well here.
I won't go on a tangent and bring religion into this.. but I so could.
If censorship was needed, every censor, by virtue of having to watch all the stuff they need to save us from, would be a shivering phychopathic murderous drug-crazed wreck of a human.
If censorship was needed, every censor, by virtue of having to watch all the stuff they need to save us from, would be a shivering phychopathic murderous drug-crazed wreck of a human.
Um, this guy is wrong. I've seen what most gamers look like.
By the time they wade through empty boxes of Hot Pockets and bottles of Mountain Dew, they would be out of breath by the time they get to their front doors.
Nope, not going to see any fatties with neckbeards on a killing spree with their fantasy swords anytime soon.
Everyone else wants a governing body to tell them what to do...pretty soon you'll want them to tell you what to eat, how to talk, and what to do...sounds like totalitarianism, and we all know how that turns out...
I think you'll find that already exists...
Lots of people in the west think they live in something approaching a free country. In comparison with some, they're probably right, but that's not saying much. Everything we get to watch on TV or read about in newspapers is filtered, if not by a government then by the owners of that media outlet - which as we've seen are in cahoots with governments anyway.
That's why the sudden rush of new legislation (some hidden from us and only disclosed by whistleblowers) to control our access to the internet under the guise of protecting the childruuuuunnnnnnn. The powers-that-be are terrified of our new found abilily to get unfiltered up to date news from anywhere in the world.
We no longer have to rely on state sponsored media to tell us how those fantastic pinpoint accurate strikes only kill terrorists whthout affecting the family living next door to the target. We no longer have to rely on state sponsored media to tell us that drugs and the like are safe because the company making them says so. We can see for ourselves what effect those things are having and we can, in lots of cases, see that we're being fed lies and half truths.
Anyway, I'm shooting off at a tangent here...when it comes to censorship, it's a very thin end of a nasty wedge. In my view, if the censors can look at something without being reduced to a quivering wreck, then so can I. Thanks, over and out.
The games industry is today's scapegoat for society's problems. It used to be the movie industry. Tomorrow, the control freaks willl find something else to whinge about.
This, when i was growing up it was music. Ozzy Ozborne was leading us all to hell. Kiss was Knight's In Satan's service. Movies and comic books were too violent. It seems trite the wa he phrased it, but he's right. The control freak's will always find an aspect of your life they want to control. They know what's best for you. And don't think its just the religious right or the Republicans, there are plenty of nanny state leftist that know what's best for you too. The fact is a significant portion of our society is always going to be comprised of busy bodies.
Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever. Noam Chomsky
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Appears to be the kind of guy who sits in his office surfing social media sites every day.
Does not appear to be a valid authority on sociology, criminology, violence, psychiatry, or anything that might actually make you want to consider him an "Authority". Yep, there he is on Linkedin, he majored in Communication.
Just a game developer supplying opinions outside his areas of expertise. Not an Authority, nothing to see here.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
It is not the point that you will go crazy and kill people. The point is it desensitizes you to greater and more random violence.
It deteriorates societies moral compass to the point people stand by accepting, often encouraging the perpetuation of these acts.
The number and severity of incidents such as sited below are on a steady increase. This is a real issue, and the correlation to video game violence is getting harder and harder to ignore.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/july99/woodstock29.htm
Real life violence may desentitize people to violence but are we really expected to believe that pixels have the same effect?
As for claims that people committed violence after playing a game therefore the game must be to blame, I suspect that's most likely just their lawyers using every possible excuse to try to reduce any sentence.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Violence in games and media has little to no correlation to violent acts. What DOES have a strong correlation is lack of socialization and inattention by parents towards children.
Children who are raised by attentive parents are much less likely to commit violent acts, kids who aren't are more likely.
That's where the correlation lays, not with playing violent videogames.
Games, television, etc, are just scapegoats for bad parenting.
Last time I checked entertainment has always mirrored the violence already taking place in the world not the other way around lol. Weather it be in Movie,TV,Music or Video Games simualted violence does not increase real world violence unless as someone else already said the people or persons committing said violence already had issues to begin with.
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All I'm going to say at this point is I agree with you. Because I do.
The original intent was to give a little info about current crime rates. For whatever reason, people tend to not realize how much the crime rate has actually dropped in the last decade. It helps when discussing with people that are saying violent video games are the bane of our society. Well? Show me the correlation. Because the raw numbers lead me to my own, different hypothesis.
... Which I feel is ok to discuss. I don't personally feel like every sentence of every conversation needs to be fully backed by a 20 year study or be worthless. I think it makes for good discussion and is interesting to think about.
Maybe after a spot of the ultraviolence we can hit the milk bar with the droogies.
Can someone give me an example of what is classed as Ultra Violent gaming, because to be fair i cant really think of many games that i would say are ultra violent. Some one used an example of Sniper 2 - well that was just putting into games what has been seen for years with CSI, and imo not necessarily ultra violent, well it is certainly no more violent than the intial act. Ok killing may look more violent than it did 12 years ago, but that is more to what consoles/PC are capable of displaying. And if i was to choose a game as being Ultra Violent i would have to pick the 20 year old Mortal Kombat........
<blockquote><i>Originally posted by StrangeEyes</i>
<br><b><p>I agree for most part with his statement about violence and silly way we look at sex in games. It has gone way to far these days in many games thats a fact.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-14-warren-spector-the-ultraviolence-has-to-stop">http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-14-warren-spector-the-ultraviolence-has-to-stop</a></p></b></blockquote>;
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I disagree one thousand percent! First of all, studies show that there is a directly inverse ratio of violent game sales to violent crimes. That is, as violent game sales increase, violent crimes have been shown to decrease. Secondly, Spector is being a douche bag, considering that he built his whole career on violent video games.
Furthermore, if anything is going too far, it's the ESRB. Diablo 3 and Halo are prime examples of them overshooting their ratings system. If people don't stop trying to infringe on the freedom of these companies to express violence ib games, then there is no way that games will ever be considered an art form.
The attack on violent video games needs to die, just like Warren Spector's relevance died 15 years ago.
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It's not that we need less violence. We just need more sex to balance it out. Moderation, I say.
Yep!
Give me more Boobies and Ill stop killing things.
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I want a Virtual World, not just a Game.
ITS TOO HARD! - Matt Firor (ZeniMax)
I have to disagree with you, I am 41 and have been gaming since I was 10 years old (binatone and then atari 2600, Ti99/4a, etc)
Doom I believe was the first good violent game that I played but at 18 I got into coding and and later created my own very mature and very violent adult mud anything went there aslong as it was roleplay and by anything I really do mean anything.
In real life the mud itself became more of a family, the mud is still going 15 years later when ooc bonds and friendships became real and 15 years later our best friends came from that place.
I and my wife have played most of the violent games there are, they can be fun and enjoyable but in no way does it desensitize us to death or make us enjoy real life violence any more.
I can play disturbing games or roleplay a rapist or killer, be the nastiest asshole on the planet in character in game but in real life it never has crossed over at all.
Happily will kill a dog in game but in real life my dog our pet died 2 weeks ago and it hit me like a truck.
Enjoy the challenge and creativity of a game where I can hunt down innocents or kill people, in real life my wife has cancer and next week we change her medication that has a percentage chance of killing her damn right I do not sleep at night thinking about it and no game will ever make me feel that less.
Even if this medication works one day I will have to support my wife when she says enough is enough and wants to stop taking the medication and I bloody well know in my heart that the millions of pixel characters I have shot through the head or cut apart even suffocated in games will have absolutely in no way lessened the thought of that real life death scenario.
We all like excuses, our society is always desperate to find a scape goat or reason for someone going bad, I mean cheating on your wife can now be blamed on "sex addiction" and bullies can blame fathers, rapists can blame being raped etc etc etc.
It is all bullshit, it is far more uncomfortable and scary to realise that we are all the same and it comes down to choice, yes society and situations have an affect but YOU make the choice for bad or worse.
Far easier to find a film to blame or game or desperately come up with an excuse instead of the haunting idea of looking into the mirror and realising I am human both the best and the worst is inside me responsibility is my own.
This country is getting SOOOOFFFFFTTTTTTT.
Strange hmmm.... And if i would say --stop violence, stop the wars, stop with army service, you would probably say-- he is not a patriot. Just stop with that hypocriticism because you would probably give your son or daughter a gun to fight for your country in some desert region of the world but you want to remove violence from games. Well thats ridiculous and i say --lets kill some pixels and save the real people
This is old and weary argument with some truth, but people seem to throw it out without thinking anymore. People severely underestimate how much mass media influences people's outlook of the world, attitudes and their sensitivity to violence. Why do you think when you hear yet another child in the Middle East being blown up or an incident of rape in the news, you don't think much of it? Maybe you feel a tinge of sadness, but for the most part its something you see all the time and it loses its impact. Now I'm obviously not saying playing hours of gorey video games is going to transform you into a raging psychopath, but the subliminal programming that goes on in your brain with what you view on a regular basis can be pretty surprising. So basically what I'm saying is, your perception of the world is influenced by what you read, see and hear through mass media more then you usually think.
From a lot of the posts in this thread I gather that most people just read the headline? He is basically saying that a mature game does not require extreme amounts of blood, sex, and other extreme acts to be considered mature. He just sounds concerned that the industry is moving in a direction where only games with the said extreme violence, and extreme sexualization will be the status quo.
I completely agree with him that games that do not rely on violence can be equally mature if not more so in most cases. Most games are so tasteless in how they present violence and sexualization that it really goes in the opposite direction of maturity.
Oh well that's just my opinion and interpretation of the article.
I can see both side's points, and I can agree with most of them. However, I just have to say, it's a good way to get out alot of aggression. I'm a pretty grumpy, short-tempered, and anti-social person in real life. For me, it doesn't desensatize me, I know the difference between the real world and a game. I do agree that some games aren't for kids. I can remember playing the original Mortal Kombat...I probably shouldn't have been lol. It didn't turn me into some monster. I think I turned out pretty good. So what if I get into GTA just to run around and kill cops and have sex with hookers and kill them...it's a game. I'd never do that in real life.
Edit: Just my personal opinion, I don't think there should be any censorship anywhere or on anything. I watch tv, they curse, and it's so stupid they bleep it out...everyone in the room knows what they just said, what's the point of it? If you have kids in the room you shouldn't be watching that show. Be responsible and watch things you want your kids to watch. I've read people complaining to HBO over the sex and violence in True Blood and thier kids see it....DON'T WATCH IT! Back in the day when you only had 6 channels on the TV, then I'd be more sympathetic, but today you got at least 50 on basic cable, and if you have HBO you probably have over 100 channels, watch something else lol. I guess I'm one of the few that will decide what my kids can and can't watch. Everyone else wants a governing body to tell them what to do...pretty soon you'll want them to tell you what to eat, how to talk, and what to do...sounds like totalitarianism, and we all know how that turns out...
Agreed. The US has an issue imo, but I'm not saying it has an effect on RL issues (or that it doesn't). Any amount of violence and gore is okay here, but the human body in its' pure form is wrong. I actually think the conscious or unconscious suppression of sexuality in the US (for the teens, early 20's) is one of our major issues.
I believe it's also why sex sells so well here.
I won't go on a tangent and bring religion into this.. but I so could.
If censorship was needed, every censor, by virtue of having to watch all the stuff they need to save us from, would be a shivering phychopathic murderous drug-crazed wreck of a human.
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Um, this guy is wrong. I've seen what most gamers look like.
By the time they wade through empty boxes of Hot Pockets and bottles of Mountain Dew, they would be out of breath by the time they get to their front doors.
Nope, not going to see any fatties with neckbeards on a killing spree with their fantasy swords anytime soon.
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I think you'll find that already exists...
Lots of people in the west think they live in something approaching a free country. In comparison with some, they're probably right, but that's not saying much. Everything we get to watch on TV or read about in newspapers is filtered, if not by a government then by the owners of that media outlet - which as we've seen are in cahoots with governments anyway.
That's why the sudden rush of new legislation (some hidden from us and only disclosed by whistleblowers) to control our access to the internet under the guise of protecting the childruuuuunnnnnnn. The powers-that-be are terrified of our new found abilily to get unfiltered up to date news from anywhere in the world.
We no longer have to rely on state sponsored media to tell us how those fantastic pinpoint accurate strikes only kill terrorists whthout affecting the family living next door to the target. We no longer have to rely on state sponsored media to tell us that drugs and the like are safe because the company making them says so. We can see for ourselves what effect those things are having and we can, in lots of cases, see that we're being fed lies and half truths.
Anyway, I'm shooting off at a tangent here...when it comes to censorship, it's a very thin end of a nasty wedge. In my view, if the censors can look at something without being reduced to a quivering wreck, then so can I. Thanks, over and out.
This, when i was growing up it was music. Ozzy Ozborne was leading us all to hell. Kiss was Knight's In Satan's service. Movies and comic books were too violent. It seems trite the wa he phrased it, but he's right. The control freak's will always find an aspect of your life they want to control. They know what's best for you. And don't think its just the religious right or the Republicans, there are plenty of nanny state leftist that know what's best for you too. The fact is a significant portion of our society is always going to be comprised of busy bodies.
Noam Chomsky