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Believe it or not, not everyone in the UK is from England -.-
Narrow minded much?
The 12.99 is British Pounds and 12.99 pounds is 20.26 not 18.76. even accounting for a 20% value added tax that is more than what any other region pays.
Keeping it constant in U.S. dollars with an additional 20% tax we would pay 17.99 rather than the 20.26 the British are paying
It was a joke, albiet not that funny i guess. I do crack myself up tho!
Guess it sailed over you head, huh?
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5056951#5056951
i believe this is the thread to which you guys are referring!
lol yea that would be the one..:)
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
They got the "bugs" part right tho, cause the game has more bugs than a new york hotel!
I'm actually at a loss for words after reading some of those posts...
Stop buying sub-based games. That solves your problem right there.
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!
Heh, whenever I see the outcry becouse subs for mmos are to big I feels like I am in kindergarden...
MMOs even for 30$ a month are cheaper entertainment than most. Most singleplayer games have like what 6 to 8 hours campaign and cost what 50$? Times changed and rarely we see game that have more than 20h of gameplay. At standard 6-8 hours its 6 to 8$ per hour, than dubious multiplayer that could maybe add double that or not if it isnt that good and allow aimbots in fps or stuff like that. For 20$ (UK rating) you would need to play for 3 to 8 hours per month to get more entertainment and cheaper than many new singleplayer games, anything more and you are in profit.
And lets not start about cinema where movies may be good or bad but still cost half of monthly sub for mmo if not more for what 1.5h of entertainment? And more if you need to buy gasoline for a car and drive to nearest cinema, hidden additional costs, than you buy cola to have something to drink, additional costs and so on untill one movie end up in same level as MONTHLY sub or more.
Still too costly? Great than for entertainment watch tv its cheaper and i hope you enjoy constant commercial crap.
F2P is so great you say? Great lets say star trek online, for pve you may do with whatever you want but for pvp? You better take your credit card and pay 25$ for some overpowered ship to win or struggle against OP P2W ships (escort carrier for example, or uber consoles). F2P are just one big scam in most cases (GW2 may be diffrent here, we will see) where it start innocently and than more power is gradually put into shop at bigger prices. For F2P to stay competitive you usually spend 2x, 3x or even more per month than on sub driven game becouse of the nice gimmicks that cost $$$ and for competitive not fully casual game are more or less mandatory.
You want free game maybe without cash shop and with constant updates? And all those hardware isnt even most costly part, salaries for specialists that can add new content and keep the wheels moving are, cheap specialists and you see bug over bug and completly unblanaced gameplay, becouse peoples that do it for "few bucks" arent really good at this, most of them are right from schools without any experience and just with theoretical knowledge that sometimes is completly false and do more harm than good.
I would like free beer from nearby shop too and free gasoline for car, maybe even new car for free... but its a pipe dream of 10 year old kid.
And no im not in the country that pays well, everything is damn costly (prices not much lower than rest of europe but standard monthly salary around 500 Euro if you are lucky) thats why I play mmos its cheapest entertainment per hour I can find that dont have constant commercials of some cat food every ten minutes thrown right into my face or have tons of hidden costs that make my wallet scream in terror...
And yes its obvious but from what I read here its still to hard to grasp for most, maybe education systems need some major revamp there...
Really is stunning the amount of posters that don't grasp the issue. Flies right over their head. Guess they're too busy posting novella posts on forums to get it.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Typical Russian responding before knowing the correct answer, he is Dutch btw, damn you Russians are easy.
Lotro still has the option for sub, which is £8.99, and Aion has only very recently gone F2P, before which is cost £8.99 a month.
My point was every single sub MMO has been £8.99 a month, but suddenly The Secret World costs £12.99.
Shame really, it's a good game.
lol yea same thing is going on in CB forums and same exact responses from people who can't just sit back for two seconds and see they(funcom) are charging more to a certain region than any other MMO that charges a sub is currently charging that SAME region
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Has Funcom responded to this yet, did they mean Euro's not pounds, could be a typo or they just plain screwed up. Heaven forbid in this world today that you make a mistake without raving lunatics going off the deep end!
Just shows how much people love to bash this game or need to go outside and get some air.
Here you go just for some other people in this thread, please tell me why it is ok for Anet to do this?
The price in North America is $150. The price in Britain is £130. £130=$205, so people in UK are paying $55 more. Now while cost conversions do have to take into account various factors, can somebody at ANet explain to me why we have to pay $55 more? I would be willing to buy the Collectors Edition at around £100, but there is no way in hell I'm paying an extra £30 for no reason.
no official response on the CB forums.. not yet at least
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Just because one game has more content than the other, doesn't justify it having a subscription fee. Most players will agree that Skyrim has a crap load of content, probably more than some MMOs. Would you pay a subscription fee to play Skyrim? Most people would laugh at the idea. So why is it that we have no issues paying a subscription fees for MMOs?
More doesn't always equal better. Most content in MMOs is designed to artificially stall you in order to keep you subscribed longer. Besides, using the movie analogy, would you pay an extra fee to watch a longer film? Most probably wouldn't.
There is no justification for most subscription MMOs. The content that is being released is tiny and takes months to develop and in the meantime you paid enough subscription fees to purchase a brand new game. The exception to this would probably be Trion because they really do release a lot of major content patches, while most other developers release one content patch every 3-4 months.
You have to look at the facts, not your feelings. Server and bandwith costs are so tiny now that most companies don't even list the separately anymore on their financial reports. They add them to the Misc. Cost field, with office supples and other small expenses.
Lastly, if games with more content required more than $60 to recoup their development costs, games like Skyrim would be selling for $100+ but they are not. I will say this again, if a game cannot recoup its development cost through box sales that it's probably not a very good game and does not deserve to be kept on subscription life support.
I'm sorry in rip off Britian 13 quid is pretty standard we are one of the most taxed countries in the world !
They bet for $ getting stronger in relation to euro and pound in coming years or should I say euro & pound just getting weaker towards most major currencies. Which may happen actually.
Most of Funcom expenses nowadays are in Canadian or US dollars, since they moved lot of their workers from Europe to Canada.
Norwegian studios are either on skeleton small crew or disbanded don't remember.
At least they still have HQ in Europe I think so they still pay some taxes.
I find it funny how GW2 does this with the box price but that is ok because GW2 is such the golden boy on these forums. If you posted that on the GW2 forums you would instantly be attacked and shot down as someone that is a hater, go figure.........
GW2 and any other game doing this is bad as well.
That horse has been beaten also where have you been?
Remember... all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.
I think you misunderstand how VAT works. This isn't something that the seller passes on to the customer or something they have to absorb. It has absolutely nothing to do with Funcom at all, they'll never have "eat" that cost.
It's an additional sales tax added onto the price of goods AFTER it's sold at the point of sale, i.e. in shops. It is payed by the consumer, always has been, not the seller.
If the UK price is 12.99 after VAT then the price funcom have decided to charge is, what? Just over £10? Now I'm sure you can see why UK players will be put off when almost all other MMO's cost £8.99 inc VAT.
yea already was many discussions on that topic in GW2 forums
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You won't get a response to this...