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  • MaitraderMaitrader Member UncommonPosts: 389
    Originally posted by jdnyc

    http://darkdemonscrygaia.com/showpost.php?p=871954&postcount=3719

     

    not bad, but not great, I would have loved to see both Euro and Sterling prices go down a lil further to give our brothers and sisters across the pond a lil more maneuverability. Better than nothing I suppose.

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  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181

    So you don't have to click external links:

     

     

    Old Today, 11:21 AM

      #3719
    Senior Community Manager
     
    Tarib's Avatar
     
     
    Funcom

    We were looking into the feedback about the subscription prices in UK£. Today we adjusted the monthly fee in UK£ down to 11.49 incl. VAT to make it more in line with the pricing in Euro. This has been changed on the website and also on the billing page today.
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    Oliver 'Tarib' Kunz
    Senior Community Manager
     
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.
  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by Maitrader
    Originally posted by jdnyc

    http://darkdemonscrygaia.com/showpost.php?p=871954&postcount=3719

     

    not bad, but not great, I would have loved to see both Euro and Sterling prices go down a lil further to give our brothers and sisters across the pond a lil more maneuverability. Better than nothing I suppose.

    That's with VAT included.  It factors out to UK paying 60 cents more than US for subscription to Funcom.

    EU ends up paying about a dollar more with VAT included for subscription to Funcom.

    The 15% VAT is the kicker to both EU and UK.  Funcom doesn't see that part of the money.

  • YalexyYalexy Member UncommonPosts: 1,058


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    It not 15% more though. It's 31% more.
  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643

    cool I guess.  You're not cheating Funcom out of any money really anyways.  You're cheating your government.  The one you should be mad about with the whole VAT thing in the first place tbh.

  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    *sigh*

    No.

    TSW = £11.49

    Every other MMO = £8.99

    It really doesn't matter what other countries pay, but it does matter that Funcom has chosen  to charge more for TSW than any other MMO in the UK only.

    Get it now?

  • GurpslordGurpslord Member Posts: 350
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    Just because 15 is the norm, doesn't mean 15 is a price anyone wants to pay, frankly Sub fees are an archaic model and I personally wouldn't pay for one no matter what the fee.

  • PanthienPanthien Member UncommonPosts: 559

    Just comes to show they do listen and clearly care, they adjusted the price.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    In UK most mmos are £8.99, e.g. wow, rift, eve

    To be fair we should have been paying about £9.99 to bring us in line with us and eu.

    The original UK for tsw price in $ would have been $21. We don't pay over 30% VAT, it didn't make sense.
  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by darwa
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    *sigh*

    No.

    TSW = £11.49

    Every other MMO = £8.99

    It really doesn't matter what other countries pay, but it does matter that Funcom has chosen  to charge more for TSW than any other MMO in the UK only.

    Get it now?

    Is that 8.99 with VAT included?  And if so, are you saying that Funcom should make less money revenue wise from UK than they would with US?

    11.49 is with VAT included.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    Usa has sales tax anyway, its just its set at a state level.
  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534

    there is an easy solution.

    wanna pay in euro? actually... you britts said you didnt want to.. now you want to!?

     

    shesh, make up your mind :) 

     

    first you wanted your pund, now you cry that's its more expensive

    really shocking news, rest of europe knew this for decades already :P england is expensive!

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • dancingstardancingstar Member UncommonPosts: 362
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    /sigh

    This thread is about UK prices.  Most sub-based MMOs are around 9 UK pounds per month if you pay monthly, including our exorbitant sales tax.

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by Gurpslord
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    Just because 15 is the norm, doesn't mean 15 is a price anyone wants to pay, frankly Sub fees are an archaic model and I personally wouldn't pay for one no matter what the fee.

    Not part of the conversation.  Create another thread or post in one of the 349 other threads found here on the sub vs. f2p model.  Thanks.

  • ValuaValua Member Posts: 520
    Originally posted by jdnyc
    Originally posted by darwa
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    *sigh*

    No.

    TSW = £11.49

    Every other MMO = £8.99

    It really doesn't matter what other countries pay, but it does matter that Funcom has chosen  to charge more for TSW than any other MMO in the UK only.

    Get it now?

    Is that 8.99 with VAT included?  And if so, are you saying that Funcom should make less money revenue wise from UK than they would with US?

    11.49 is with VAT included.

    8.99 is VAT included.

     

    But every single other MMO is 8.99 in the UK, so why shouldn't Funcom also? 

  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by jdnyc
    Originally posted by darwa
    Originally posted by Yalexy

     


    Originally posted by darwa
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

     

    Erm... if you pay monthly then basically every other MMO is $15 a month aswell.

    *sigh*

    No.

    TSW = £11.49

    Every other MMO = £8.99

    It really doesn't matter what other countries pay, but it does matter that Funcom has chosen  to charge more for TSW than any other MMO in the UK only.

    Get it now?

    Is that 8.99 with VAT included?  And if so, are you saying that Funcom should make less money revenue wise from UK than they would with US?

    With VAT included, yes.

    I'm ignoring your second question as it has no semblance to what I said.

  • rawfoxrawfox Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Originally posted by darwa

    So you don't have to click external links:

     

     

    Old Today, 11:21 AM

      #3719
    Senior Community Manager
     
    Tarib's Avatar
     
     
    Funcom

    We were looking into the feedback about the subscription prices in UK£. Today we adjusted the monthly fee in UK£ down to 11.49 incl. VAT to make it more in line with the pricing in Euro. This has been changed on the website and also on the billing page today.
    __________________
    Oliver 'Tarib' Kunz
    Senior Community Manager
     
    Still no explanation as to why it's 28% more expensive per month than any other MMO though. That's the part I want an answer for.

    I can only guess its because the english pound isnt worth that mutch anymore.

     

     

     

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    Yeah the £8.99 is including VAT. Basicly when wow came out sterling was very strong almost $2 to the £.
  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by darwa
     

    With VAT included, yes.

    I'm ignoring your second question as it has no semblance to what I said.

    Actually yes it does.  See if you pay 8.99 for a sub.  VAT then taken out...that's less money that Funcom gets from having a UK subscriber than they get from a US subscriber.  You're saying they should eat the VAT like other companies because that's how it always was.

    So it has everything to do with the point and explains why you're paying a little more for a sub vs. US.

     

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    Err he's including the Exchange rate when converting £ to $
  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by rawfox
     

    I can only guess its because the english pound isnt worth that mutch anymore.

     

    It's currently joint fifth in terms of  value, so it cannot be that.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo Member CommonPosts: 7,207
    We are paying more than 15% more than usa. We are paying 28% more. VAT is not 28% in the UK (it might be in Europe, but it ain't here). It looks to me like they converted $ to € then converted € to £ rather than a direct conversion. Anyway how come usa gamers get away with not paying local sales tax?
  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    Originally posted by jdnyc
    Originally posted by darwa
     

    With VAT included, yes.

    I'm ignoring your second question as it has no semblance to what I said.

    Actually yes it does.  See if you pay 8.99 for a sub.  VAT then taken out...that's less money that Funcom gets from having a UK subscriber than they get from a US subscriber.  You're saying they should eat the VAT like other companies because that's how it always was.

    So it has everything to do with the point and explains why you're paying a little more for a sub vs. US.

     

    Look in the (undeservedly) locked topic on this subject. It explains that VAT isn't taken from anywhere. There's no need to go over it again.

  • PanthienPanthien Member UncommonPosts: 559
    Originally posted by ShakyMo
    We are paying more than 15% more than usa. We are paying 28% more. VAT is not 28% in the UK (it might be in Europe, but it ain't here). It looks to me like they converted $ to € then converted € to £ rather than a direct conversion. Anyway how come usa gamers get away with not paying local sales tax?

    We can put a twist to your reasoning, why is the US and Europe paying more for every other mmo then the UK. Every mmo sub is around 15usd, the UK pays give or take 13.5 usd.

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