I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop. Subscription = Actual content updates!
GW2 should not fear TSW. instead! TSW should fear GW2.
Period!
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
Originally posted by wasim470
Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
Originally posted by athariel
TSW will be investigating F2P by the time GW2 launches. They have a Pay2Win cash shop so it shouldn't take long for them to make a switch.
LOL. GW2's CS is closer to P2W than TSW's. But neither is.
Anyway, the funny part is that TSW competes more with SWTOR, while GW2 competes more with TERA. The 2 may be mmorpgs, but interestes are completly different. Also, fate is the same. Both wil launch with lots of box sales then see huge drops a few months after. TSW will see it's when GW2 launches, but it won't kill. GW2 will see it's ones later on.
Also, Anet should be far more worried with Pandaria. Knowing Blizz, they might wven launch close to GW2 just to insult.
True the cool sunglasses i got for my Guardian, made the mobs run scared of all the coolness i had.
Sunglasses are P2W in any mmo. Like the monocle in EVE.
Also, the only time a different launch can affect the other is if it's within the same month. Outside of that, it's pretty much clear. And regarding the future, it doesn't matter either. All mmos will suffer the "turist syndrome".
Exactly, I bought the sunglasses from GW2's CS too. Although, I notice that the sunglasses show no attribute value and damaging increase, but when I wear it, I can beat every singleguys in WvWvW room. May be the coolness of my sunglasses can distract my enemy during the fight. And that's really awesome, what a great P2W.
I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
I imagine many playing TSW are doing it to pass the time or plan on playing both anyways. I know I do.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I'll bite. Chances are that TSW will suffer more because of GW2, than the other way around. Anyway, I don't personally care about TSW at all, so nope, no reason to postpone anything.
Im with you 100% no reason to postpone.
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I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
You wrote this as if Guild Wars 1 wasn't successful. With a small budget, minimal advertising/word of mouth, and an unknown company, GW1 sold a million copies in only 5 months way back in 2005 which was during WoW's rise to the throne.
I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
what an extraordinary short tale story, you have. But unfortunately, I guess it may not end up in this way.
the secret worlds being made by funcom.the same people who made the trainwreck that became of age of conan,so i doubt they care.and mop,well its world of warcraft.id rather have the wow community stay in wow then ruin another potentially good mmo like they did with swtor
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids""
its funny because the only mmo you named that actually said they were making an mmo to try to "beat"wow was swtor.i guess its just another example of how many retards are in the wow community
I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
You wrote this as if Guild Wars 1 wasn't successful. With a small budget, minimal advertising/word of mouth, and an unknown company, GW1 sold a million copies in only 5 months way back in 2005 which was during WoW's rise to the throne.
GW2 - "The one who's going to beat you"
WOWMOP - *points to failed WoW killers*
GW2 - "Ask me if I care."
WOWMOP - "...Do you c-"
GW2 - "NO!"
You wrote this as if the other mmos wheren't sucessful.
LOTRO and DDO have shown great profit and are still updating with expansions.
WAR, SWTOR and AOC, well, yeah, fair enough
AION is the 2nd or 3rd biggest mmo in the planet, beyong WOW and maybe Lineage
Finally, Rift was a full blown mmorpg (not a co-op game) made by Trion as their very first game, and 1 of the most polished. Also, while having less than 500k subs, it's been very sucessfull. Enough so, to have a full expansion 1 year after and finace 2 other mmos. All in 1 year.
GW1 was, and is to this day, a very different game. B2P instead of P2P, co-op instead of mmo, and great pvp focus instead of pve. The exact oposite of normal mmorgps.
Also, the game was launched 2005, with no competion beyong the already made WOW. Same happened in 2006. But in 2007, it was the first expansion that forced players to have the original game instead of stand alone. It was also the year of LOTRO and Vanguard, and possilbe AOC.
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
Oh, and no. I'm not hating on GW1 since i think it's an awesome, originala nd unique game.
If they postpone the game for another month after all the wait, fans will kill Mike O'Brien. Why do you think they never show a release date until now and always said when its rdy?
I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
You wrote this as if Guild Wars 1 wasn't successful. With a small budget, minimal advertising/word of mouth, and an unknown company, GW1 sold a million copies in only 5 months way back in 2005 which was during WoW's rise to the throne.
GW2 - "The one who's going to beat you"
WOWMOP - *points to failed WoW killers*
GW2 - "Ask me if I care."
WOWMOP - "...Do you c-"
GW2 - "NO!"
You wrote this as if the other mmos wheren't sucessful.
LOTRO and DDO have shown great profit and are still updating with expansions.
WAR, SWTOR and AOC, well, yeah, fair enough
AION is the 2nd or 3rd biggest mmo in the planet, beyong WOW and maybe Lineage
Finally, Rift was a full blown mmorpg (not a co-op game) made by Trion as their very first game, and 1 of the most polished. Also, while having less than 500k subs, it's been very sucessfull. Enough so, to have a full expansion 1 year after and finace 2 other mmos. All in 1 year.
GW1 was, and is to this day, a very different game. B2P instead of P2P, co-op instead of mmo, and great pvp focus instead of pve. The exact oposite of normal mmorgps.
Also, the game was launched 2005, with no competion beyong the already made WOW. Same happened in 2006. But in 2007, it was the first expansion that forced players to have the original game instead of stand alone. It was also the year of LOTRO and Vanguard, and possilbe AOC.
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
Oh, and no. I'm not hating on GW1 since i think it's an awesome, originala nd unique game.
I don't think people realize what a behemoth the GW2 release has become. Possibly the most *anticipated* MMO ever. Now whether that turns dream turn to reality is an other question. However, by the looks of the beta tests, previews and beta reviews, it seems that there is some truth to the hype. I doubt TSW will any effect on GW2 on release day at all.
Yet, Pandaria will almost certanly sell more. Weird huh.
On topic, 2 completly different games. This idea that 1 games affects the others gets tossed around alot and i have yet to see it happening. SWTOR didn't affect Rift. TERA didn't affect SWTOR. TSW didn't affect TERA. And i'm certain GW2 won't affect TSW.
No need to postone anything. The game's good. it will do well, just like TSW and all others. (expect TOR for obvious reasons): Is this thread a troll threads? Seems like it.
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
I'm confused. Does GW2 *gulp* and say "run away" and then the wow mop figures that gw2 would tell it to run away?
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop. Subscription = Actual content updates!
TSW and GW2 will have a small % of fans wanting to play both. I did a beta test for TSW and its crasp, vulgar and overly violent. Let the horror fans play their game and we will play our purdy game. If I wanted to see something as bad a TSW I would just turn on the news.
I am interested in TSW but won't touch it until it goes F2P. I don't think that the two games have the same core audiences. GW2 is a pvp centric game. TSW is a pve centric game. This is ironic for me because I am a pve centric player. However, I am no fan of Funcom and have no problem waiting until TSW goes F2P.
You wrote this as if the other mmos wheren't sucessful.
LOTRO and DDO have shown great profit and are still updating with expansions.
WAR, SWTOR and AOC, well, yeah, fair enough
AION is the 2nd or 3rd biggest mmo in the planet, beyong WOW and maybe Lineage
Finally, Rift was a full blown mmorpg (not a co-op game) made by Trion as their very first game, and 1 of the most polished. Also, while having less than 500k subs, it's been very sucessfull. Enough so, to have a full expansion 1 year after and finace 2 other mmos. All in 1 year.
GW1 was, and is to this day, a very different game. B2P instead of P2P, co-op instead of mmo, and great pvp focus instead of pve. The exact oposite of normal mmorgps.
Also, the game was launched 2005, with no competion beyong the already made WOW. Same happened in 2006. But in 2007, it was the first expansion that forced players to have the original game instead of stand alone. It was also the year of LOTRO and Vanguard, and possilbe AOC.
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
Oh, and no. I'm not hating on GW1 since i think it's an awesome, originala nd unique game.
Source please?
I think FredomSekerZ missed the latest memo where Mike O'Brien specifically said that nothing will kill WoW except WoW. See my previoust post (just before this one ^) for source.
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GW2 "Hi I'm GW2"
TSW "Hey I'm TSW"
GW2 "Never heard of you"
TSW "
"
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
Panda Ria is an expansion, not an MMO.
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
GW2 should not fear TSW. instead! TSW should fear GW2.
Period!
So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids"
Aren't ye dutch?
I see no reason for them to delay.
I imagine many playing TSW are doing it to pass the time or plan on playing both anyways. I know I do.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Because it wouldn't be possible for TSW players to purhcase GW2 in September if they so desire just because GW2 releases in August?
Im with you 100% no reason to postpone.
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You wrote this as if Guild Wars 1 wasn't successful. With a small budget, minimal advertising/word of mouth, and an unknown company, GW1 sold a million copies in only 5 months way back in 2005 which was during WoW's rise to the throne.
GW2 - "The one who's going to beat you"
WOWMOP - *points to failed WoW killers*
GW2 - "Ask me if I care."
WOWMOP - "...Do you c-"
GW2 - "NO!"
what an extraordinary short tale story, you have. But unfortunately, I guess it may not end up in this way.
Nah, SWTOR most anticipated easily.
meh
the secret worlds being made by funcom.the same people who made the trainwreck that became of age of conan,so i doubt they care.and mop,well its world of warcraft.id rather have the wow community stay in wow then ruin another potentially good mmo like they did with swtor
"So?
GW2- "Hey WOW"
WOWMOP- "Who are you again?"
GW2- "The one who's going to beat you"
*WOWMOP points to GW1, LOTRO, DDO, WAR, AOC, AION, RIFT, SWTOR, etc*
GW2- *Gulp* "Run away"
WOWMOP- "Yeah, that's what i figured"
EDIT: WOWMOP- "Get off my lawn, you damm whippersnapper. Back in my day, we didn't have all this you new mmorgps have. Damm kids""
its funny because the only mmo you named that actually said they were making an mmo to try to "beat"wow was swtor.i guess its just another example of how many retards are in the wow community
You wrote this as if the other mmos wheren't sucessful.
LOTRO and DDO have shown great profit and are still updating with expansions.
WAR, SWTOR and AOC, well, yeah, fair enough
AION is the 2nd or 3rd biggest mmo in the planet, beyong WOW and maybe Lineage
Finally, Rift was a full blown mmorpg (not a co-op game) made by Trion as their very first game, and 1 of the most polished. Also, while having less than 500k subs, it's been very sucessfull. Enough so, to have a full expansion 1 year after and finace 2 other mmos. All in 1 year.
GW1 was, and is to this day, a very different game. B2P instead of P2P, co-op instead of mmo, and great pvp focus instead of pve. The exact oposite of normal mmorgps.
Also, the game was launched 2005, with no competion beyong the already made WOW. Same happened in 2006. But in 2007, it was the first expansion that forced players to have the original game instead of stand alone. It was also the year of LOTRO and Vanguard, and possilbe AOC.
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
Oh, and no. I'm not hating on GW1 since i think it's an awesome, originala nd unique game.
If they postpone the game for another month after all the wait, fans will kill Mike O'Brien. Why do you think they never show a release date until now and always said when its rdy?
" Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater""
oh god here we go,another swtor incoming
i guess maybe the developers who make these games arent really any smarter then the idiots who play them
"Nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW."
- Mike O'Brien
Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/04/23/arenanet-founder-mike-obrien-will-be-satisfied-when-guild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/
Source please?
I don't think GW2 needs to delay because of TSW. I don't really see TSW holding up with massive numbers in the long term.
On Nefera's post (the previous one from your post)
I'm confused. Does GW2 *gulp* and say "run away" and then the wow mop figures that gw2 would tell it to run away?
Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!
TSW and GW2 will have a small % of fans wanting to play both. I did a beta test for TSW and its crasp, vulgar and overly violent. Let the horror fans play their game and we will play our purdy game. If I wanted to see something as bad a TSW I would just turn on the news.
I am interested in TSW but won't touch it until it goes F2P. I don't think that the two games have the same core audiences. GW2 is a pvp centric game. TSW is a pve centric game. This is ironic for me because I am a pve centric player. However, I am no fan of Funcom and have no problem waiting until TSW goes F2P.
since i already pre-purchased, i say they keep the release date.
I think FredomSekerZ missed the latest memo where Mike O'Brien specifically said that nothing will kill WoW except WoW. See my previoust post (just before this one ^) for source.