I absolutely don't care about people playing TSW... I'm actually not sure the OP is serious.
GW2 releases 8.28. What people do in TSW is their own business (and their loss), I'll be playing GW2.
Actually, the release will be spot on to grab those who will be already bored with TSW because they finished it's linear story line, just like people were bored with SW:TOR two month after its release.
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There is zero reason to postpone GW2 launch for any other MMO. TSW has no long term mechanics so it will very quickly lose subs just like SWTOR did because $15 is too much for waiting around for more content. So by the time GW2 launches people will be bored of or quitting TSW and if they are on the edge; GW2 releasing will help them decide since quitting with no new game to play is far harder than quitting for a new game to play.
GW2 doesn't really even have to worry about pandaria. The people that want GW2 are mostly those that are flat out tired of the WoW model. Not to mention that GW2 is B2P so even if people swap to MoP, once they have finished it they can return with no subscription barrier to make them think twice. Depending how long it takes to finish all the content in GW2 will help determine MoP's impact. If people are already out of content by MoP's release they might got try it until GW2 has more content, but again no sub barrier to keep them away.
You people should stop taking my posts out context. I said, and quote myself:
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
And now, i'll take from that link too:
"We're in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO"
Nobody plain says "We're going to kill WOW". But this is probably the closest it can get. Whatever anyway. If i'm not mistaken, O'Brien left Blizzard and formed Anet. Now he thinks ihe's big enough to start talking stupid, and wants to beat is former company. Fortunaly, he doesn't reprsent the whole of ANet.
Therefore, Guild Wars can be bought and played whenever with no additional costs.
I don't see the point of this thread. GW2 will not be delayed any further. It will come out and it will be something people start with or get back into online gaming, something they play on top of another sub game, or leave their sub game to play something great and without an additional fees.
With what looks like a very good release of TSW would it not be wise for GW2 to postpond release until say end of September, that will give a full clear month after the free month you get with TSW.
Bearing in mind that GW2's main income will be from box sales they would want to maximize the opportunity and look for an ideal release time, so soon after the release of TSW could prove very damaging for the box sales.
With time a lot of players will get GW2 but releasing so soon after a good releasing AAA title can not help intended sales, they have waited this long another month cannot hurt.
You must understand that Guild Wars 2 has NO monthly subscription where as The Secret World does have one. With that being said, there's no worry because someone can play both at once. However, I think that Guild Wars 2 has a better WvWvW (world PvP) set up than TSW and an overall better world settting. This is just my opinion.
I think FredomSekerZ missed the latest memo where Mike O'Brien specifically said that nothing will kill WoW except WoW. See my previoust post (just before this one ^) for source.
I think you should stop taking my comments out of context and read your own links.
You people should stop taking my posts out context. I said, and quote myself:
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
And now, i'll take from that link too:
"We're in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO"
Nobody plain says "We're going to kill WOW". But this is probably the closest it can get. Whatever anyway. If i'm not mistaken, O'Brien left Blizzard and formed Anet. Now he thinks ihe's big enough to start talking stupid, and wants to beat is former company. Fortunaly, he doesn't reprsent the whole of ANet.
I see nothing wrong with other posts that quoted from your post. They didn't directly argue with you they just clarify what you missed about what O'Brien said and bring the source to other people. Which is the same as you posted "you can't kill another game, just beat it" and O'Brien just hope GW2 can beat WoW, and left WoW be desolating itself because he also state that “nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW. Games just don’t die."
The only reason TSW had a decent release is because there is "NOTHING" worth playing atm. So as the saying goes.. Something is better than NOTHING. I even considered trying TSW, but after one beta weekend.. Id rather poke out my eyes with a dull spoon, seems like a lot more fun.
You are correct, something is better than nothing so I started Skyrim again! After 5 years of waiting GW2 is essentially here in my book, and there is no need in spending $50+month 2 subscription fee for TSW just for something to do.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I am usually getting more than one title each month, if they are worth the time and money. I rarely spend all my time in one game, so other releases don't affect me that much. In any case, it makes the gaming experience richer.
Based upon my time in the CB, I would argue that TSW is officially releasing with 2 months (if consumed rapidly) to 3 months (if paced) worth of content. This does not include time you might spend grinding repeatable quests and/or repeating dungeons and/or PvP. It's decent content, but unless Funcom drops frequent updates, most people will be more or less finished seeing the game through Transylvania by the time GW2 launches. Therefore, there should be no impact either way.
"Loading screens" are not "instances". Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Bearing in mind that GW2's main income will be from box sales they would want to maximize the opportunity and look for an ideal release time, so soon after the release of TSW could prove very damaging for the box sales.
You've got a lot to learn about the P2W business model. It is all about the cash shop. I suspect that within a year the client will be free.
Bearing in mind that GW2's main income will be from box sales they would want to maximize the opportunity and look for an ideal release time, so soon after the release of TSW could prove very damaging for the box sales.
You've got a lot to learn about the P2W business model. It is all about the cash shop. I suspect that within a year the client will be free.
Guild Wars 2 will never have a free client since the cash shop is not P2W
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I doubt that they will go F2P. GW is still B2P, and seeing that they chose B2P + shop twice, instead of the standard subscription, and with all the talk they did, they clearly did not do that on a whim, but did think about it and did their research.
Also, compared to some other games, the shop is still tame, seeing that they can't sell real improvements like better armor, or (with the exception of stuff like the bonus mission pack GW had) additional content.
Last but not least, a shop does not equal P2W. Even assuming that GW2 *would be* P2W, which it clearly isn't, doesn't make each and every shop P2W.
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
Speaking for the crowd that has already given Arenanet their money by pre-purchasing, I hope they don't postpone it!
Besides it isn't like ever gamer out there is forced with oh should I play TSW or GW2 this month? Some of us have the money to buy both, some of us only want to buy one of the two. TSW is a completely different genre from GW2 and I myself don't particulary care for it. I'm not saying it's a bad game, I wouldn't know I've not played it, but thats the thing, I don't want to. I personally think that GW2 will do just fine releasing so soon after TSW.
Obviously this is my opinion though =P it isn't like I'm some super marketing guru or something.
nope i agree and i think you speak for the rest of us lol
Glad to see most everyone voted No. Althought, I'm sure that even if the majority voted Yes, ANet is unlikely to go back on their release date, short of catastrophic circumstances.
I don't see what's wrong with relese dates of games being close by. No matter what you do it will alwasys be like that, and someone always will find a complaint about it.
No, there's absolutely no good reason to change the release date.
I wonder why people see GW2 as so much better than TSW. I'm not saying TSW is great, but neither is GW2. Combat felt just as disconnected in GW2 as it does in TSW for me.
Haven't played in the last few beta events though so it might have improved, but GW2 is far from the second coming everyone seems to be believing it is.
I wonder why people see GW2 as so much better than TSW. I'm not saying TSW is great, but neither is GW2. Combat felt just as disconnected in GW2 as it does in TSW for me.
Haven't played in the last few beta events though so it might have improved, but GW2 is far from the second coming everyone seems to be believing it is.
doesnt matter the main reason i want to play it is i own it forever no sub no need to p2w and being a gw fan already its a nop brainer
Has no effect on me.. Actually, TSW turned me off.. It looks like another story driven MMO.. I don't want to relive a pre-written story like SWTOR.. I want to live my own like I did in past games years ago.. Will GW2 move away from the linear themepark rides of the last 5 years? I don't know.. but one thing for sure.. I won't be paying a monthly sub to find out BONUS
I wonder why people see GW2 as so much better than TSW. I'm not saying TSW is great, but neither is GW2. Combat felt just as disconnected in GW2 as it does in TSW for me.
Haven't played in the last few beta events though so it might have improved, but GW2 is far from the second coming everyone seems to be believing it is.
Because people have different opinions maybe?
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I absolutely don't care about people playing TSW... I'm actually not sure the OP is serious.
GW2 releases 8.28. What people do in TSW is their own business (and their loss), I'll be playing GW2.
Actually, the release will be spot on to grab those who will be already bored with TSW because they finished it's linear story line, just like people were bored with SW:TOR two month after its release.
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
There is zero reason to postpone GW2 launch for any other MMO. TSW has no long term mechanics so it will very quickly lose subs just like SWTOR did because $15 is too much for waiting around for more content. So by the time GW2 launches people will be bored of or quitting TSW and if they are on the edge; GW2 releasing will help them decide since quitting with no new game to play is far harder than quitting for a new game to play.
GW2 doesn't really even have to worry about pandaria. The people that want GW2 are mostly those that are flat out tired of the WoW model. Not to mention that GW2 is B2P so even if people swap to MoP, once they have finished it they can return with no subscription barrier to make them think twice. Depending how long it takes to finish all the content in GW2 will help determine MoP's impact. If people are already out of content by MoP's release they might got try it until GW2 has more content, but again no sub barrier to keep them away.
You people should stop taking my posts out context. I said, and quote myself:
Finally, "wow killer" doesn't exist, because you can't kill anoter game, just beat it. WOW beat EQ2, but not kill. And in case you missed the memo, Mike O'Brien believes GW2 will be a "wow killer/beater"
And now, i'll take from that link too:
"We're in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO"
Nobody plain says "We're going to kill WOW". But this is probably the closest it can get. Whatever anyway. If i'm not mistaken, O'Brien left Blizzard and formed Anet. Now he thinks ihe's big enough to start talking stupid, and wants to beat is former company. Fortunaly, he doesn't reprsent the whole of ANet.
Guild Wars has no subscription. TSW does.
Therefore, Guild Wars can be bought and played whenever with no additional costs.
I don't see the point of this thread. GW2 will not be delayed any further. It will come out and it will be something people start with or get back into online gaming, something they play on top of another sub game, or leave their sub game to play something great and without an additional fees.
Let's stop with the pointless threads please.
You must understand that Guild Wars 2 has NO monthly subscription where as The Secret World does have one. With that being said, there's no worry because someone can play both at once. However, I think that Guild Wars 2 has a better WvWvW (world PvP) set up than TSW and an overall better world settting. This is just my opinion.
If the percentage of bugs is less than .05%, then yes, dont postpone it.
We want developers to start launching close to bug free games, not the other way around.
I think you should stop taking my comments out of context and read your own links.
I see nothing wrong with other posts that quoted from your post. They didn't directly argue with you they just clarify what you missed about what O'Brien said and bring the source to other people. Which is the same as you posted "you can't kill another game, just beat it" and O'Brien just hope GW2 can beat WoW, and left WoW be desolating itself because he also state that “nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW. Games just don’t die."
TSW must really be a good game anyway if its players/fans/defenders spend more time posting here in the GW2 forum than playing it...
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
no reason to delay
You are correct, something is better than nothing so I started Skyrim again! After 5 years of waiting GW2 is essentially here in my book, and there is no need in spending $50+month 2 subscription fee for TSW just for something to do.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
i couldnt get into TSW in the last beta, so i personally do not see it effecting Guild Wars 2
TSW sucks
Release Guild Wars 2!
I am usually getting more than one title each month, if they are worth the time and money. I rarely spend all my time in one game, so other releases don't affect me that much. In any case, it makes the gaming experience richer.
Based upon my time in the CB, I would argue that TSW is officially releasing with 2 months (if consumed rapidly) to 3 months (if paced) worth of content. This does not include time you might spend grinding repeatable quests and/or repeating dungeons and/or PvP. It's decent content, but unless Funcom drops frequent updates, most people will be more or less finished seeing the game through Transylvania by the time GW2 launches. Therefore, there should be no impact either way.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
You've got a lot to learn about the P2W business model. It is all about the cash shop. I suspect that within a year the client will be free.
Guild Wars 2 will never have a free client since the cash shop is not P2W
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
I doubt that they will go F2P. GW is still B2P, and seeing that they chose B2P + shop twice, instead of the standard subscription, and with all the talk they did, they clearly did not do that on a whim, but did think about it and did their research.
Also, compared to some other games, the shop is still tame, seeing that they can't sell real improvements like better armor, or (with the exception of stuff like the bonus mission pack GW had) additional content.
Last but not least, a shop does not equal P2W. Even assuming that GW2 *would be* P2W, which it clearly isn't, doesn't make each and every shop P2W.
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high
And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
nope i agree and i think you speak for the rest of us lol
lol after 6 year wating why the hell would iwant to postpone ,i dont want to wait no more so if they say it launch in a mark date then so be it.
Glad to see most everyone voted No. Althought, I'm sure that even if the majority voted Yes, ANet is unlikely to go back on their release date, short of catastrophic circumstances.
I don't see what's wrong with relese dates of games being close by. No matter what you do it will alwasys be like that, and someone always will find a complaint about it.
No, there's absolutely no good reason to change the release date.
I wonder why people see GW2 as so much better than TSW. I'm not saying TSW is great, but neither is GW2. Combat felt just as disconnected in GW2 as it does in TSW for me.
Haven't played in the last few beta events though so it might have improved, but GW2 is far from the second coming everyone seems to be believing it is.
doesnt matter the main reason i want to play it is i own it forever no sub no need to p2w and being a gw fan already its a nop brainer
Has no effect on me.. Actually, TSW turned me off.. It looks like another story driven MMO.. I don't want to relive a pre-written story like SWTOR.. I want to live my own like I did in past games years ago.. Will GW2 move away from the linear themepark rides of the last 5 years? I don't know.. but one thing for sure.. I won't be paying a monthly sub to find out
BONUS
Because people have different opinions maybe?
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums