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I have one problem with gw2--No open world pvp!!!
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Maybe you have right because game mechanic is not in favor of ow pvp
this exactly
I'm not going to argue against the fact that ANet has decided not to have World PvP for the purposes of their own gameplay mechanics, but we need to get a couple things straight here for people who whine about world PvP.
First, there is NO reason why high level characters should have to be able to gank low levels in order for World PvP to work. That is a *choice* that is made by some game companies. It wouldn't be hard to put rules in the game that counter and/or flat our protect people from the kind of ganking that makes you people scream for mama, while still allowing everyone else to play world PvP if they wanted. The easiest way to do this is an opt-in PvP system with flagging rules. Other games have done this successfully. There could also be rules to limit the number of lower level characters that get killed by such a person. My point is, ganking as it was known in games like WoW only existed because the devs made it that way. World PvP isn't the problem, how it is implemented is.
Second, even though I have never, ever been a ganker myself, I actually like having to look over my shoulder and or run for my life while questing. It adds a level of tension and emmersion that I really enjoy. I understand it's not for everyone, but to claim that world PvP itself serves no purpose except to allow ganking, is a narrow-minded point of view.
One thing I loved about Star Wars Galaxies early on was that if you were training as a Jedi, it was very wise of you to train in secret, away from populated areas. Pulling your saber would get you flagged for PvP, and likely land you on a Bounty Hunter mission. I also loved in SWG that I could go on Active or Inactive Duty as far as world PvP went. When active, I was open season like all the other actives. When inactive, I couldn't be touched. Finally, I really liked the feature that if you were inactive, and you attacted an opposing NPC base or character, you got your butt flagged for PvP on a timer.
Think it through. While Guild Wars 2 might not *need* World PvP, there is no software reason why it has to be an open gankfest in any game.
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Again, for the n-th time. oPvP wouldn't work in GW2 without completely re-doing the PvE. PvP servers wouldn't work. There are no factions, all attacks arc, there is plenty of AoE, you wouldn't be able to do a single event without being hit by everyone you are not grouped with constantly.
WvWvW is there for that mass, openish PvP feel.
And no. I do not miss it. World PvP did not work properly in any of the recent MMOs. It only works in EVE, some relaly old ones, and a few indie/niche sandboxy games that are built with open PvP in mind. It was terrible in WoW, it was terrible in AoC and it was completley messed up in WAR in the time I played the game (first 3 months).
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Exactly and some people, the majority of people, don't like PvP. I do but I understand that a lot don't so I have no problem with a game designed for OWPvP seperate from the other part of the game.
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I think the game could very well survive with that kind of "problems" without introducing bigger and nastier problems (ganking and griefing).
If something is not broken don't repair it!
Well some people can think that gw2 deserve that. So where is your point?
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And how would it work without a massive rewrite of the game?.
According to the lore there are no factions, the closest you could get are Humans Vs Charr with the other races as neutral (Asura are completely neutral, Sylvari are too young and unwilling to take any sides, Norn mostly let the Charr pass trough their lands as long as they didn't bother them), and at the time of GW2 there's a truce in that war. So, without factions we'd end up with FFA PvP.
The core of the PvE experience is in the dynamic events, and the ability to participate in them without having to group. How could that work if you had to worry about AoEs and attacks from other players accidentally killing you, or your own attacking/killing other players? Not to mention some boss fights that are chaotic enough as they are without needing to look out for other players attacks as well.
Having one PvP server would mean a complete restructuring of the whole PvE version of the game, and the core phylosophy behind it.
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Take the humor for what it is lol. If I had thought of this back when SWTOR was getting criticized with the same threads every day, then maybe I would have posted it back then.
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Time will tell my friend! But honestly, I actually like open-world PvP, I just don't think it would work in GW2. The game is designed for everyone to work together in huge AoE fest dynamic events. Open world PvP would make that pretty much impossible.
So I mean, you can dislike the fact that GW2 doesn't have open-world PvP...but I don't think there is any way that it actually could at this point. At some point, you have to try to appreciate the differences in games...not every one will be the same.
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Oh and why no skipping the ganking and griefing and just have THAT big awesome pvp battle?
Yeah.. like WvWvW?
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Hehehe very true! I think that a lot of folks have to realize is that traditional open world PvP just WILL NOT work in GW2. It would make DE's absolutely impossible, and that is the mainstay of PvE in the game.
So WvW is reall GW2's "version" of open-world PvP. In order for it to work at all, they had to put it in a separate area and make it team-based. If you don't like it, that's fine...but you basically don't like it just because it's your preference, not because it's poorly implemented. I think that is why I don't really get the no open-world PvP argument.
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well like I mentioned WoW vanilla world pvp days,thats whats this thread is about World PvP.
in WoWs vanilla world PvP days ,if someone got ganked ,it started a war,now if someone gets ganked,noone will show up because they are doing instanced fighting,or left game because of that which killed World PvP.
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Really? Yet another thread on this? lol. No, GW2 doesn't have open world PvP. That would be bad news if they didn't have a better system in place. GW2 will offer actual PvP. If GW2 did offer open world PvP you would be complaining about zones dropping your level down to the zones cap so you still couldn't gank like you want.
I don't miss it in this game because it gives a better outlet for those that actually want to PvP. It's far more competetive. Which is pure win for those that actually want to PvP. The only thing that would be gained by open world PvP at this point would be the ability to attack those that you know aren't able to beat you which isn't PvP and again this would be hindered by the fact that you would still be on even footing due to the zones capping levels lol.
Not really for or against the PvP question in this case, but how does sPVP and WvW fit into the lore exactly?
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I couldn't say it better than these good peeps above, so I will only add this I personally don't want to see your idea of open world pvp ever implemented in GW2, look at all the games that have ope world pvp they all have dwindling dying servers because of gankers and griefers, not saying you are one (did I say that out loud) W v W solves all these issues, put up or shut up.
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Well that is not realistic. It is just another dungeon or instance. In real world you can attack anyone and kill anyone, why for heaven you can't do that in game where nobody can die for real. It is just so, so much less adrenaline