I still think the tutorials (in game and this video) that arena net have provided so far aren't quite up to the same level of quality of the rest of the game.
They are perfectly fine for anyone with mmo experience but definately lacking for anyone fresh to the genre.
Bob Ross refference at :45 =D Sylvari named Happy Little bush, all in all I think they could have done a better job.. that narrator is eh I dunno what to say... not right.
Not to mention most of the gameplay was done badly >.< they warrior with the hammer.. ugg he was swinging that hammer all over not hitting anything and dodging for no reason.. and half of them needed to heal! Which is an ongoing thing in any GW2 video.. no one heals themselves
I still think the tutorials (in game and this video) that arena net have provided so far aren't quite up to the same level of quality of the rest of the game.
They are perfectly fine for anyone with mmo experience but definately lacking for anyone fresh to the genre.
I have to agree. There are some other sites though that provide some good info for new players. Unortunately it isn't like people new to mmos are going to know about those sites or probably find them easily.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Wow, this is a surprisingly effective video. I showed it to my wife and she finally 'got' what this game is about. I've been telling her about it for months, and she's always been 'meh'. This vid actually made the game catch her interest. I'm pretty geeked right now!
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
It's good as an advert.. just don't think it's good as a tutorial. This isn't the help a lot of people need.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
I agree that its not that great in terms of it being a tutorial its more a showcase of features.
as for the guys voice, if you have a grandfather or uncle that sounds like this there is an almost 100% certainty that he has a hidden journal with a treasure map and clues noted in it and has lived a hidden past that you'll find out about when you ask him about his tattoo that he always keeps covered.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
It's good as an advert.. just don't think it's good as a tutorial. This isn't the help a lot of people need.
/agreed most of the gameplay is so bad its going to teach people to play badly and the voice is TERRIBLE!
For some reason, this reminded me of the how to play Magic: The Gathering video that came with the M:TG classic edition starter pack. Sort of. I am not really sure why.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Most of the people who I talk to that don't "get" the game would deinetely have been helped by this video. They are gamers, but they don't see the difference between this and other games. This would probably help.
On second thought, I doubt this video will do anything to stop one of my friends from playing maplestory.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Most of the people who I talk to that don't "get" the game would deinetely have been helped by this video. They are gamers, but they don't see the difference between this and other games. This would probably help.
On second thought, I doubt this video will do anything to stop one of my friends from playing maplestory.
ACK! That person needs help! You have failed him my friend!
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Ok, you misunderstand where this video comes from. It's on the front page of an entire online manual for Guild Wars 2. The video isn't even published on their page, you only see it if you have the link. It was not intended to stand alone. Here is the proper context for the video:
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Most of the people who I talk to that don't "get" the game would deinetely have been helped by this video. They are gamers, but they don't see the difference between this and other games. This would probably help.
On second thought, I doubt this video will do anything to stop one of my friends from playing maplestory.
It does an ok job of explaining 'what' you can do. Tutorials are supposed to be about 'how' you do it. That's what I'm getting at.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Most of the people who I talk to that don't "get" the game would deinetely have been helped by this video. They are gamers, but they don't see the difference between this and other games. This would probably help.
On second thought, I doubt this video will do anything to stop one of my friends from playing maplestory.
Yeah but it isn't really a tutorial. Like Volkon said and I agree it is a great advertisement for the reasons you gave. As a tutorial? It fucking sucks. No real info to help a player get started that may be new to the genre.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Ok, you misunderstand where this video comes from. It's on the front page of an entire online manual for Guild Wars 2. The video isn't even published on their page, you only see it if you have the link. It was not intended to stand alone. Here is the proper context for the video:
Originally posted by GrumpyCharr Wow, this is a surprisingly effective video. I showed it to my wife and she finally 'got' what this game is about. I've been telling her about it for months, and she's always been 'meh'. This vid actually made the game catch her interest. I'm pretty geeked right now!
I AM CURRENTLY TRYING THE SAME WITH MINE, I MADE HER A PROMISE THAT IF I SAT THROUGH A FREAKING GLEE MARATHON THAT SHE WOULD PLAY THE NEWB AREA WITH ME!!!!!
CPU-HP Omen 17.3" Laptop i7 12 GB AMD Radeon RX580 1 TB Hard Drive
Originally posted by Vannor I thought that was a terrible tutorial. It was like an overview of a tutorial; the contents, or even a feature list. It explained nothing and was basically an advert.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
It's good as an advert.. just don't think it's good as a tutorial. This isn't the help a lot of people need.
/agreed most of the gameplay is so bad its going to teach people to play badly and the voice is TERRIBLE!
this, it's so emotionless without any intonation. Just horrible to listen to
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Oderint, dum metuant.
I still think the tutorials (in game and this video) that arena net have provided so far aren't quite up to the same level of quality of the rest of the game.
They are perfectly fine for anyone with mmo experience but definately lacking for anyone fresh to the genre.
Bob Ross refference at :45 =D Sylvari named Happy Little bush, all in all I think they could have done a better job.. that narrator is eh I dunno what to say... not right.
Not to mention most of the gameplay was done badly >.< they warrior with the hammer.. ugg he was swinging that hammer all over not hitting anything and dodging for no reason.. and half of them needed to heal! Which is an ongoing thing in any GW2 video.. no one heals themselves
I have to agree. There are some other sites though that provide some good info for new players. Unortunately it isn't like people new to mmos are going to know about those sites or probably find them easily.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Harsh. Sounds like the hired the movie trailer guy to do the commentary on this video.
It's good as an advert.. just don't think it's good as a tutorial. This isn't the help a lot of people need.
I agree that its not that great in terms of it being a tutorial its more a showcase of features.
as for the guys voice, if you have a grandfather or uncle that sounds like this there is an almost 100% certainty that he has a hidden journal with a treasure map and clues noted in it and has lived a hidden past that you'll find out about when you ask him about his tattoo that he always keeps covered.
/agreed most of the gameplay is so bad its going to teach people to play badly and the voice is TERRIBLE!
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
They should have had "The Most Interesting Man In The World" narrate it.
When he logs in, it's a Dynamic Event.
When he smiles, skritt say "Ohh, Shiny!"
Zhaitan follows him on Twitter.
"I don't often play MMOs, but when I do I play Guild Wars 2. Stay dynamic, my friends."
Oderint, dum metuant.
Most of the people who I talk to that don't "get" the game would deinetely have been helped by this video. They are gamers, but they don't see the difference between this and other games. This would probably help.
On second thought, I doubt this video will do anything to stop one of my friends from playing maplestory.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
+9000
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
ACK! That person needs help! You have failed him my friend!
Ok, you misunderstand where this video comes from. It's on the front page of an entire online manual for Guild Wars 2. The video isn't even published on their page, you only see it if you have the link. It was not intended to stand alone. Here is the proper context for the video:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/manual/
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
It does an ok job of explaining 'what' you can do. Tutorials are supposed to be about 'how' you do it. That's what I'm getting at.
Yeah but it isn't really a tutorial. Like Volkon said and I agree it is a great advertisement for the reasons you gave. As a tutorial? It fucking sucks. No real info to help a player get started that may be new to the genre.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Oh, I didn't know that. That does make it look like a better attempt at a proper tutorial
I AM CURRENTLY TRYING THE SAME WITH MINE, I MADE HER A PROMISE THAT IF I SAT THROUGH A FREAKING GLEE MARATHON THAT SHE WOULD PLAY THE NEWB AREA WITH ME!!!!!
CPU-HP Omen 17.3" Laptop i7 12 GB AMD Radeon RX580 1 TB Hard Drive
this, it's so emotionless without any intonation. Just horrible to listen to