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To a woman. "Yes, sir!"

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  • DrWookieDrWookie Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Originally posted by Talgen
    Originally posted by DrWookie
    Originally posted by Praetalus
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
     

    i can't comment for army since never been in army but air force and coast guard we surely use Ma'am

    They all operate differently. That very well could be.

    USAF Jag Corp, 2006 here. Since you don't seem to recall, I'll copied a link to the Army Command Policy, 600-20. Female Offiers are refferred to as Ma'am. Not Sir...ever. 

     

     

    4-18.     A soldier addressing a higher ranking officer uses the word sir or ma'am in the same manner as a polite civilian speaking with a person to whom he wishes to show respect. In the military service, the matter of who says sir or ma'am to whom is clearly defined; in civilian life it is largely a matter of discretion. In the case of NCOs and soldiers, we address them by their rank because they've earned that rank.

     

    http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_20.pdf

    Okay so I don't know much about the military but I just have a funny observation...

    "In the case of NCOs and soldiers, we address them by their rank because they've earned that rank."

    Is that trying to imply that commissioned officers didn't "earn" their rank? Is that like a secret hidden jab against commissioned officers? Aren't like Captains/Majors/Colonels/Generals all commissioned officers? So they didnt' "earn" the rank?

     

    Yes, yes it is.. and any enlisted man will smile at that.

    Even I smile at that :) Very clever of them.

  • WeretigarWeretigar Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Originally posted by Talgen
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar

    HAHA yes.

    Source 52nd agbn for knox kentucky A company 515. All officers are refered to as sir.

    Seriously? HAHA no -_-.

    Source: 3BCT 101st ABN (AA).

    It's "Rakkasan Ma'am" when I see female officers. 

    Also when I went through OSUT at Knox 515 was a BCT troop. Of course I don't know how the do it up in TRADOC/HRC world...

    Did you even graduate basic man?

    They don't do basic in knox  are you serious?

    Holy hell I suggest you do some google'n

    I'll do you a favor.

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/army_infantry_100509w/

    "Billions of dollars of new construction projects are underway at Benning as officials at Fort Knox, Ky., are finalizing the massive plan to move the Armor Center and School alongside the home of the infantry."

    Yeah they don't do basic in knox anymore and havent for over 2 years

    That's another fubar man. I've had guys come from Knox that have only been in the Army for about a year ;). 

    Advanced combat training and basic are 2 different things.

    Scouts and Tankers did OSUT at Knox. Which is basicly 16wks of BCT/AIT rolled into one mess.You simply have no clue as to what you're talking about. 

    I cant find anything on osut after jan of 2011? Source please

    http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/combat/m1-armor-crewman.html

     

    how's that for source

     

    Was OSUT when I was (and will be for life) 19kilo

    nice defualt pic of a tank whats it prove?

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by itsbigmike
    Originally posted by Weretigar

    What I posted the first time. Stop trying to act like wiki noobs actually went to the army.

    Posting your DD214 doesn't mean you're not right in this. Calling a female officer sir will make your day end badly, atleast at Ft Campbell...

    11. Says nothing follows and 13 says he was only awarded the NDSM. Granted I haven't seen very many DD214 but did he even complete BCT? He also dosen't have any SGLI?

    P.S 

    1-33 War Rakkasans!

    Medals, and Specializations are not required you can get them, however it's not something that I liked (The army experience) so i just kept my head down tell my term was up.

    Also saying you were in and showing proof are 2 diff things

    not really much "proof" there... search google images for dd214 see how many you get... now post a picture with you holding it and your name on the forums on a sticky note on the dd214 that's a differn't story:) not saying I dont believe you just saying posting a dd214 like that is hardly proof

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • WeretigarWeretigar Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by itsbigmike
    Originally posted by Weretigar

    What I posted the first time. Stop trying to act like wiki noobs actually went to the army.

    Posting your DD214 doesn't mean you're not right in this. Calling a female officer sir will make your day end badly, atleast at Ft Campbell...

    11. Says nothing follows and 13 says he was only awarded the NDSM. Granted I haven't seen very many DD214 but did he even complete BCT? He also dosen't have any SGLI?

    P.S 

    1-33 War Rakkasans!

    Medals, and Specializations are not required you can get them, however it's not something that I liked (The army experience) so i just kept my head down tell my term was up.

    Also saying you were in and showing proof are 2 diff things

    not really much "proof" there... search google images for dd214 see how many you get... now post a picture with you holding it and your name on the forums on a sticky note on the dd214 that's a differn't story:) not saying I dont believe you just saying posting a dd214 like that is hardly proof

    I left my home address on it lol my ip adress from suddenlink goes right to that adress????

  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

  • TalgenTalgen Member UncommonPosts: 400
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Talgen
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Originally posted by Kriss
    Originally posted by Weretigar

     

    HAHA yes.

     

    Source 52nd agbn for knox kentucky A company 515. All officers are refered to as sir.

    Seriously? HAHA no -_-.

    Source: 3BCT 101st ABN (AA).

    It's "Rakkasan Ma'am" when I see female officers. 

    Also when I went through OSUT at Knox 515 was a BCT troop. Of course I don't know how the do it up in TRADOC/HRC world...

    Did you even graduate basic man?

    They don't do basic in knox  are you serious?

    Holy hell I suggest you do some google'n

    I'll do you a favor.

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/army_infantry_100509w/

    "Billions of dollars of new construction projects are underway at Benning as officials at Fort Knox, Ky., are finalizing the massive plan to move the Armor Center and School alongside the home of the infantry."

    Yeah they don't do basic in knox anymore and havent for over 2 years

    That's another fubar man. I've had guys come from Knox that have only been in the Army for about a year ;). 

    Advanced combat training and basic are 2 different things.

    Scouts and Tankers did OSUT at Knox. Which is basicly 16wks of BCT/AIT rolled into one mess.You simply have no clue as to what you're talking about. 

    I cant find anything on osut after jan of 2011? Source please

    http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/combat/m1-armor-crewman.html

     

    how's that for source

     

    Was OSUT when I was (and will be for life) 19kilo

    nice defualt pic of a tank whats it prove?

     

    What's this prove??  wow.

     

    "TRAINING

    Job training for a M1 armor crewman requires 15 weeks of One Station Unit Training. Part of this time is spent in the classroom and in the field under simulated combat"

     

     

    And tanker training (for the Army) is _only_ done @ Fort Knox.  And only done via OSUT

     

    That's what it proves.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Weretigar
     

    I left my home address on it lol my ip adress from suddenlink goes right to that adress????

    sending you spam mail right now! lol

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • Crazy_StickCrazy_Stick Member Posts: 1,059
    If you want to settle this, the bathroom is over there. Y'all just need to advertise for a ruler and a female volunteer.
  • DrWookieDrWookie Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
    If you want to settle this, the bathroom is over there. Y'all just need to advertise for a ruler and a female volunteer.

    Or perhaps they would prefer using each other's hands to estimate.

  • WeretigarWeretigar Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Ok Ok LOL this was fun to blow of some time waiting for gw2 because i have no life. Seriously thou IDK no one ever corrected me in Active Duty when I called a CO Sir. I always called a female civilian mam. I never got one dirty look, maybe it was wrong. IDK maybe they were just thinking dumbazz but never said it. If it was as big of an issue as we are making it on here thou. There would have been like 15 cival wars. I give up you guys win lol. Please don't send me spam mail FOR REAL.
  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Ok Ok LOL this was fun to blow of some time waiting for gw2 because i have no life. Seriously thou IDK no one ever corrected me in Active Duty when I called a CO Sir. I always called a female civilian mam. I never got one dirty look, maybe it was wrong. IDK maybe they were just thinking dumbazz but never said it. If it was as big of an issue as we are making it on here thou. There would have been like 15 cival wars. I give up you guys win lol. Please don't send me spam mail FOR REAL.

    'Active Duty' is a video game. 

  • WeretigarWeretigar Member UncommonPosts: 600
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by Weretigar
    Ok Ok LOL this was fun to blow of some time waiting for gw2 because i have no life. Seriously thou IDK no one ever corrected me in Active Duty when I called a CO Sir. I always called a female civilian mam. I never got one dirty look, maybe it was wrong. IDK maybe they were just thinking dumbazz but never said it. If it was as big of an issue as we are making it on here thou. There would have been like 15 cival wars. I give up you guys win lol. Please don't send me spam mail FOR REAL.

    'Active Duty' is a video game. 

    It's also a term for people that lived in a Barracks and wern't in the national guard. IDK I posted this I just told you, you guys win.

  • BeezerbeezBeezerbeez Member UncommonPosts: 302
    Deleted by me :D
  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender. If a female officer tells you to call her sir you call her sir..get it?

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender.

    try that at tracen cape may or lackland afb and see how much they feel calling a female CC sir is a mark of respect

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender.

    try that at tracen cape may or lackland afb and see how much they feel calling a female CC sir is a mark of respect

    it depends on the individual.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender.

    try that at tracen cape may or lackland afb and see how much they feel calling a female CC sir is a mark of respect

    it depends on the individual.

    no its just common knowledge in the air force and coast guard.. in basic they pretty much grill that into you

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender. If a female officer tells you to call her sir you call her sir..get it?

    LOL. No female officer has ever told anyone to call them 'sir'.

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley
    Originally posted by ariboersma
    Originally posted by Istavaan
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    Higher ranking females are refered to as sir in the army.

    this >.<

      NO. THEY. ARE. NOT.

    Please link to one piece of video or literature or anything where a lower rank calls a female officer 'sir.

    Calling someone sir is a mark of respect  it has nothing to do with gender.

    try that at tracen cape may or lackland afb and see how much they feel calling a female CC sir is a mark of respect

    it depends on the individual.

    no its just common knowledge in the air force and coast guard.. in basic they pretty much grill that into you

    I did  say the army, i don't know what they do in the air force or coast guard.

  • Crazy_StickCrazy_Stick Member Posts: 1,059
    Sir Yes Ma'am!!!
  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Istavaan

    no its just common knowledge in the air force and coast guard.. in basic they pretty much grill that into you

    I did  say the army, i don't know what they do in the air force or coast guard.

    well I know its the same in the navy as well so seems odd to me 3 of the 5 branches would have this policy.. but who knows maybe you are right

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
    Sir Yes Ma'am!!!

    why I'm glad I had a male CC ma'am yes ma'am is annoying to say over and over

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Istavaan

    no its just common knowledge in the air force and coast guard.. in basic they pretty much grill that into you

    I did  say the army, i don't know what they do in the air force or coast guard.

    well I know its the same in the navy as well so seems odd to me 3 of the 5 branches would have this policy.. but who knows maybe you are right

    Of course i am right, you are not going to tell me i am wrong about experiences i have had . Some female officers prefer to be called Sir.

  • SlampigSlampig Member UncommonPosts: 2,342
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    They do that in the military, what's the problem?

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Slampig
    Originally posted by noncley

    That was either laziness - "It takes too long to make voice-recordings for both female and male characters" - or penny-pinching - ""It costs too much to record two versions" - or pig-headed arrogance - "In hard sci-fi, they call all genders 'Sir'" - and they were compounded because no-one at the top levels of the game, either a developer, a marketer or even Q&A, recognised that this was stupid and put their foot down.

    Laziness, Penny-Pinching, Arrogance, Lack of Leadership.

    These are the qualities that caused the massive flaws of this game that even the most senior bosses of the company that made it now call 'diappointing'.

    They do that in the military, what's the problem?

    Have you actually read anything in this thread?

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