lets hope the world does end before they manage to butcher another IP
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
As much as I would like to see a UO2, after what Mythic did with WAR, I'd prefer they not bother.
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed: And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" ~Lord George Gordon Byron
No... I want a UO2 but I want a well done UO2 that sticks to the core aspects that made the game so unique. Mythic is just a shell of its former self after EA bought and gutted it, so no thanks.
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
What I'm wondering is if they want to make it because they want to redeem themselves/make a good mmo, or if they just want a project to work on so they can hold on to their jobs. Either way it's pretty ballsy of them to do this because they still have those EA shackles grasping tightly around their ankles.
I, like many others, have lots of nostalgia for the old place, but I still feel drained from the old flamewars.
The community can't decide on what UO is ... the secret sauce is different for everyone... but how can I support a theoretical sequel when I can't imagine getting more than handful of people to agree on any one design?
Originally posted by jaybird50 mmmm sorry Mythic screwed up Warhammer, convince they execs that I should build it instead.
Originally posted by jusomdude Don't think there's a future for it without Richard Garriot and Raph Koster working on it.
Mythic may have screwed up Warhammer, but Garriot screwed up Tabula Rasa.
I actually think their version of Warhammer wasn't that bad. People were expecting DAOC 2.0 and they didn't get it, so that probably caused the game to fail.
I think Mythic could pull off a new Ultima. What company would you suggest attempt it?
All the talent that was a part of Mythic has been gutted by EA.
There are now more Bioware employees in Mythic than former Mythic guys.
Between EA and Bioware... I don't want to them to even think about touching Ultima Online 2, especially not after seeing the horrible Ultima 4 remake they're doing.
Bioware has been working to further destroy DAoC for the last 2 years or so.
EA has not once been involved in a good MMO. Every MMO they touch dies. Do NOT let this happen. They already cancelled DAoC 2 and Imperator.
So they'll make another game that plays exactly like Warhammer, and Rift....yeah a 3rd one of these games I doubt would be a good thing. But then again third time's the charm?
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
No. Just no. Go fuck yourselves, Mythic.
Couldnt of said it better myself. Two Thumbs up.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
No. Just no. Go fuck yourselves, Mythic.
Couldnt of said it better myself. Two Thumbs up.
Same here.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy" -Seinfeld
Originally posted by doragon86 As much as I would like to see a UO2, after what Mythic did with WAR, I'd prefer they not bother.
Blame EA, not Mythic.
Originally posted by Brixon Even the old Mythic couldn't be trusted, look how they screwed up DAoC.
DAoC didn't truly go down the tubes until EA bought them.
It's really sad that the company behind one of the best designed MMos in the history of the genre... now has its name forever laughed at because of EA and WAR.
There was a UO2 in development, long ago. EA killed it, claiming it would 'compete with UO'. But really it was a newly promoted exec wanting to make the company's bottom line look good in his first year.
The McFarlane prototype figures looked really good though.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
All the talent that was a part of Mythic has been gutted by EA.
There are now more Bioware employees in Mythic than former Mythic guys.
Between EA and Bioware... I don't want to them to even think about touching Ultima Online 2, especially not after seeing the horrible Ultima 4 remake they're doing.
Bioware has been working to further destroy DAoC for the last 2 years or so.
EA has not once been involved in a good MMO. Every MMO they touch dies. Do NOT let this happen. They already cancelled DAoC 2 and Imperator.
DAoC is a themepark, UO is a sandbox, that's the number one reason Mythic would never be able to develop a good UO game.
Second, it's not the same Mythic, they are Bioware 2 now.
Third, noone but Garriot should attempt an UO 2.
And im not even sure i would want UO 2 developed by Garriot....
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy" -Seinfeld
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
No. Just no. Go fuck yourselves, Mythic.
+1
The last line should be "Go fuck yourselves, EA."
If there was anything good in SWTOR it was because of Mythic, not EA.
Mythic was a company that had released about... 8 I think, successful online titles, DAoC being their most popular. They were on their way to making 2 more MMOS when EA bought them.
Ever since EA has owned them, their games have been poor. Considering EVERY MMO EA gets involved with goes south... let's use our grade school critical thinking skills to discover the common element...
All the talent that was a part of Mythic has been gutted by EA.
There are now more Bioware employees in Mythic than former Mythic guys.
Between EA and Bioware... I don't want to them to even think about touching Ultima Online 2, especially not after seeing the horrible Ultima 4 remake they're doing.
Bioware has been working to further destroy DAoC for the last 2 years or so.
EA has not once been involved in a good MMO. Every MMO they touch dies. Do NOT let this happen. They already cancelled DAoC 2 and Imperator.
DAoC is a themepark, UO is a sandbox, that's the number one reason Mythic would never be able to develop a good UO game.
Second, it's not the same Mythic, they are Bioware 2 now.
Third, noone but Garriot should attempt an UO 2.
And im not even sure i would want UO 2 developed by Garriot....
I'd hardly call DAoC a themepark. Hell, the term "themepark" rarely applies to any game that isn't a WoW clone. Just because DAoC wasn't as sandboxy as UO doesn't mean it was a "themepark". Themepark implies being led by the nose and developer imparted safety. These things were not in DAoC.
All the talent that was a part of Mythic has been gutted by EA.
There are now more Bioware employees in Mythic than former Mythic guys.
Between EA and Bioware... I don't want to them to even think about touching Ultima Online 2, especially not after seeing the horrible Ultima 4 remake they're doing.
Bioware has been working to further destroy DAoC for the last 2 years or so.
EA has not once been involved in a good MMO. Every MMO they touch dies. Do NOT let this happen. They already cancelled DAoC 2 and Imperator.
DAoC is a themepark, UO is a sandbox, that's the number one reason Mythic would never be able to develop a good UO game.
Second, it's not the same Mythic, they are Bioware 2 now.
Third, noone but Garriot should attempt an UO 2.
And im not even sure i would want UO 2 developed by Garriot....
I'd hardly call DAoC a themepark. Hell, the term "themepark" rarely applies to any game that isn't a WoW clone. Just because DAoC wasn't as sandboxy as UO doesn't mean it was a "themepark". Themepark implies being led by the nose and developer imparted safety. These things were not in DAoC.
DAoC is a themepark MMO, just like EQ & Lineage 2.
Just because they weren't a wow clone with streamlined linear questing doesn't mean they aren't themeparks.
By your definition, GW2 is a sandbox.....
Btw im not calling DAoC casual, shallow and linear, that's what todays themeparks are, old themeparks had more freedom and depth, but they where still themeparks.
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy" -Seinfeld
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lets hope the world does end before they manage to butcher another IP
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
"For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast,
And breathed in the face of the foe as he passed:
And the eyes of the sleepers waxed deadly and chill,
And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!"
~Lord George Gordon Byron
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
Dark Age of Camelot
Why bother making anything. Jeeez guys...
No... I want a UO2 but I want a well done UO2 that sticks to the core aspects that made the game so unique. Mythic is just a shell of its former self after EA bought and gutted it, so no thanks.
Bad Mythic, Bad...
"Support our crappy ARPG Ultima-in-name-only game and maybe we'll get the chance to make UO2!"
Yeah, up yours buddy. Firstly, you massacred the Warhammer IP. Secondly, you aided in massacring (to a lesser extent, admittedly) the Star Wars IP. Thirdly, you're in the act of massacring the Ultima IP...
No. Just no. Go fuck yourselves, Mythic.
What I'm wondering is if they want to make it because they want to redeem themselves/make a good mmo, or if they just want a project to work on so they can hold on to their jobs. Either way it's pretty ballsy of them to do this because they still have those EA shackles grasping tightly around their ankles.
I, like many others, have lots of nostalgia for the old place, but I still feel drained from the old flamewars.
The community can't decide on what UO is ... the secret sauce is different for everyone... but how can I support a theoretical sequel when I can't imagine getting more than handful of people to agree on any one design?
Mythic may have screwed up Warhammer, but Garriot screwed up Tabula Rasa.
I actually think their version of Warhammer wasn't that bad. People were expecting DAOC 2.0 and they didn't get it, so that probably caused the game to fail.
I think Mythic could pull off a new Ultima. What company would you suggest attempt it?
That's not Mythic. Mythic is dead.
All the talent that was a part of Mythic has been gutted by EA.
There are now more Bioware employees in Mythic than former Mythic guys.
Between EA and Bioware... I don't want to them to even think about touching Ultima Online 2, especially not after seeing the horrible Ultima 4 remake they're doing.
Bioware has been working to further destroy DAoC for the last 2 years or so.
EA has not once been involved in a good MMO. Every MMO they touch dies. Do NOT let this happen. They already cancelled DAoC 2 and Imperator.
pffft uo foreever looks stupid and nothing like uo to me they taken everything that made uo uo and turned it into wowish crap
Couldnt of said it better myself. Two Thumbs up.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Same here.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Mythic? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Yeah.... no thanks.
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy"
-Seinfeld
Blame EA, not Mythic.
DAoC didn't truly go down the tubes until EA bought them.
It's really sad that the company behind one of the best designed MMos in the history of the genre... now has its name forever laughed at because of EA and WAR.
There was a UO2 in development, long ago. EA killed it, claiming it would 'compete with UO'. But really it was a newly promoted exec wanting to make the company's bottom line look good in his first year.
The McFarlane prototype figures looked really good though.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
+1
DAoC is a themepark, UO is a sandbox, that's the number one reason Mythic would never be able to develop a good UO game.
Second, it's not the same Mythic, they are Bioware 2 now.
Third, noone but Garriot should attempt an UO 2.
And im not even sure i would want UO 2 developed by Garriot....
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy"
-Seinfeld
The last line should be "Go fuck yourselves, EA."
If there was anything good in SWTOR it was because of Mythic, not EA.
Mythic was a company that had released about... 8 I think, successful online titles, DAoC being their most popular. They were on their way to making 2 more MMOS when EA bought them.
Ever since EA has owned them, their games have been poor. Considering EVERY MMO EA gets involved with goes south... let's use our grade school critical thinking skills to discover the common element...
I'd hardly call DAoC a themepark. Hell, the term "themepark" rarely applies to any game that isn't a WoW clone. Just because DAoC wasn't as sandboxy as UO doesn't mean it was a "themepark". Themepark implies being led by the nose and developer imparted safety. These things were not in DAoC.
DAoC is a themepark MMO, just like EQ & Lineage 2.
Just because they weren't a wow clone with streamlined linear questing doesn't mean they aren't themeparks.
By your definition, GW2 is a sandbox.....
Btw im not calling DAoC casual, shallow and linear, that's what todays themeparks are, old themeparks had more freedom and depth, but they where still themeparks.
"Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."
"The idea behind the tuxedo is the woman's point of view that men are all the same; so we might as well dress them that way. That's why a wedding is like the joining together of a beautiful, glowing bride and some guy"
-Seinfeld