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Mourning off of MMORPG site?
Bilas
Member Posts: 78
Hmmm seems Mourning disapeared from the site. Not that I am complaining or anything, but whats the deal?
Bilas
'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"
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- MMORPG.COM Staff -
'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"
Is Egomancer one of the devs? What was he getting so upset about?
Moring was kinda mean, they never told comunity nuttin and never responded to emails and the game doesnt look too good any way. Nice move MMorpg.com!
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Classic move MMORPG.com. You have stuck it to them like they stick it to their own friggin fanbase!
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Malianea
I doubt MMORPG ''return fire'' or whatever you wanna call this.
It was prolly a request from Tiamat or something as silly as that, and since we are talking about a game that was quite small, in developpment, showing openly hatred and immaturity, well, they prolly *nod* and just remove it.
I cant say I would be ''mourning them'' however!
Dont hate them either, kinda indifferant toward them, which some peoples say is worser then hatred.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Pretty much.
I wish we were given enough notice to copy some of our threads out of the Mourning forum before it was deleted... now that attention is really being brought to the situation, an in depth explanation should be written by some of us that have been following it since the beginning.
Well over on the Mourning forum it Timat says it was there idea and that MMORPG and others such as the VN boards are not what they want. In other words they want absolute control over everything that is said and will delete or ban you if you say negative things. WOW how do they expect to succeed with attitudes like that?
Me thinks the ship tis sinking fast....
'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"
Well, I am not a mourning fan, so won't be missing this mourning game much.
Developers should focus more on their community/ player base since we are their "customers".
The Best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time.
The list of skill based games shrinks again. Lets see...Irth Online, DarkFall, Trials of Ascension...anyone else have one?
Went just read mourning boards and I have to say I agree some parts with Tiamat.
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The deletion of Mourning forums and game from MMORPG.com was due to our express request.
We don't need boards which are exactly the opposite of the concepts based on which we founded our community.
That's the same reason because of which we refused to make VN boards as Mourning game boards. You can't create a true community nor get any help from some boards filled up more than 90% with insulting languages and flame wars.
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You cant make community with boards that are mostly just flames, insults or trolls. Mourning boards here were mostly flames and quite obvious that some people were really trying to cause bad press(like all these scam rumours without any evidences) or insult the game they havent even played yet, so mourning commonuty will probably be better off without boards here.
I dont want to take sides in this and I agree that mourning dev did their mistakes how they handled some situations, but all this drama is going too far. Actually I havent even been following developing of that game, since quite happy with eve atm.
I wish them good luck and hope they can build that 'dream' community they are trying to, but lets allow them do their things in peace and not flame/troll them here anymore.
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
They were having a cow about what someone was saying about them on some internet message board? They will never be able to handle the pressure of players once the game is live instead of just being a concept.
I, for one, know about board trolls and wasn't basing my opinion of the game on some board chat (I never even went to the Mourning boards here), but off of the news releases and screenshots posted on this very website. If this is how they react to a few board trolls, how can I have any faith that they won't ban players for random things they say about the game on their boards or other boards? Do I really want to play a game that I can't give any negative feedback about without the fear of them going over the top? I am sorry, but this game is dead to me. There are enough games out there trying to win fans over, no need to give money to one who is trying to alienate them.
When you're right, you're right.
That's exactly how I feel. It looked like an OK game but by trying so hard to restrict negative feedback they have made me very leary of trying their product. There are plenty of other game companies out there that will be happy to take my money and won't cringe at a less than stellar review of their game.
When you're right, you're right.
That's exactly how I feel. It looked like an OK game but by trying so hard to restrict negative feedback they have made me very leary of trying their product. There are plenty of other game companies out there that will be happy to take my money and won't cringe at a less than stellar review of their game.
Negative feedback? Game isn't even out yet and is in beta. Anyone who would be able to give feedback would be these in beta and by doing that they would have to break NDA. Other posts that I read were just trolls and flames. I would understand all this better if there was even half posts with construtive ideas/criticism/suggestions instead "this game suck" by someone who haven't even played the game yet or "Omg they are trying to scam you" by someone who isnt giving any evidences.
Read the thread on the news article relating to this incident.
This is a post from MMORPG staff:
- MMORPG.COM Staff -
This is a post from the mourning boards:
TIAMAT POSTED THIS : "The deletion of Mourning forums and game from MMORPG.com was due to our express request.
We don't need boards which are exactly the opposite of the concepts based on which we founded our community.
That's the same reason because of which we refused to make VN boards as Mourning game boards. You can't create a true community nor get any help from some boards filled up more than 90% with insulting languages and flame wars.
Also, we were always encuraged out community to speak up their minds, and act like people with spine. We don't need mindless fanbois as our followers, the same as we don't need trolls messing up our boards.
We didn't shout the mouth of threads or discussions saying bad things about our game, because ALL the input and feedback is needed in order to make things work as they really should. A developer must be really stupid to do that to his community.
All we EVER asked was to use a common sense language and support your saying with facts and examples, and mostly banned only people which used bad language or trolled the boards. I said mostly because there were some a few exceptions allready well known from this, but we hope that we already solved that, and it will never happens again.
Also, I don't understand the behavior of MMORPG staff. we never said MMORPG.com sucks, we just said Mourning boards from their site are a lame excuse of a forum. I guess we had the right to say that about the forum of OUR game from their site. There weren't mature discussion about our game in there, as they should as it was a game's board, but in fact only imature people trolling everything related with our game, like all the Mourning-is-a-scum magic or the billing-thinggye. I guess if those kinds of posts would have been made on other game's forums in there, they would have been quickly dealt with.. but of course, for Mourning wasn't the case.. Also, they didn't did anything regarding all the ones which posted in there all sort of stupid things to feed those flame wars and preteding they are from our staff.
Yet MMORPG staff came up and said some things about us which should have never be said in a professional relationship.
That's why I said yes when our discussion came to the point of which we should have to ask from MMORPG staff to entirely delete Mourning game and its forums from their site.
And I'm quite sure that not we are the ones who'll have to lose from this.
And as a last thing, it's astonishing to see that they claim they were the ones doing this because they felt s
quote:Today MMORPG.com has made the difficult decision to remove the game "Mourning" from our list of MMORPG's as well as shut down our Mourning specific forums.
We would like to clarify that this decision was not based on the actions of any community members at MMORPG.com - rather our core feelings about the company behind this project, and the way they treat us and their community.
My dear MMORPG staff, what about the fact the WE expressely asked you to do this?
I gues we'll see who was right about this. Atm I'm just glad we don't have to deal anymore with all the trollings from those forums."
So just because the arent funded with corp fat pigs means you cant mod their boards and get the kids banned? Mourning is doing everything they arent taking handouts by SOE Blizzard or Microsfot. MMORPG tell the story right.
just thought I'd pass this along.
First: You dont make a community, you accept a community, you are part of the community yourself, you cant control peoples in a pastime.
Second: There are a little flamers here, but they are under control thanks to the all pervasive Moderators.
Third: Talk good, talk ill, but talk about it! I trash talk WoW everytime I can, I really hate the game they did, however it draw attention on the game, which help them(not much, but a little), and this is just perfect, some peoples love this game and I want them to have a nice game, if nobody would be complaining, it would get far less attention from outsiders.
Fourth: Even SoE is advertising here, feeling they can use any edge, any help, to appeal to any new potential customer, Tiamat is indeed incredibly skilled or ignorant of what he is doing. If I recall well, even Turbine choose to let SoE handle the publishing, which mean, they cant be that wrong!
Fifth: This site is full of PvP lovers...I think many of the MMORPG.com staff where looking forward and drooling at Mourning, they got fairly good visibility...and Tiamat openly scorn back their ways, I dont know, but I would be hurted myself if I was a moderator here and see him react so immaturely.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I will have to agree with the Mourning people on this one
The Mourning forum had gotten way out of control. People were constanltly posting that the game didn't really exist and other nonsense.
the MMORPG.com staff did a terrible job of regulating the forum
Letting people get away with terribly slanderous lies was not a good thing. I can see why they they wanted to put an end to the forum.
Awesome!!! To all you Mourning Fanbois out there...R..O..F..L!!!!
About f***ing time someone put that POS Game out of their misery on MMORPG.
Do a little research all and you will find out all the bad stuff about Mourning
RIP Mourning and dont let the door hit you on the way out! Hahaha
Love it!!
Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody
First: You dont make a community, you accept a community, you are part of the community yourself, you cant control peoples in a pastime.
And you can also choose who you accept to community. I should have said help build community instead just 'make'. Community isnt something that come to you and you just 'accept' it except community that is full of trolls, flames and whining, but such community is worthless in my opinion. Mourning boards here were mostly just these flames, trolls and whining and could say there was no mourning community here in the first place. Thats why I said mourning will probably be better off without forums here.
This entire affair raises some huge red flags about the game.
More like a giant red X and flashing lights saying Danger! Do not enter!
I am amazed when I see people embracing the way things are done on the mourning boards.
I actually saw the word regulate in this thread.
It seems like it never occured to these people that there might be a reason as to WHY there were so many negetive threads... That there was cause for concern. The outright lies (sorry but I'm siding with MMORPG.COM on this one.) are enough for me.
All negetive opinion must be regulated? Why don't we skip ahead to the part where everyone on the planet should be billed for this game wether they play it or not, let's just remove all free will and choice all together....