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MMORPG.COM News: Mourning Removed

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  • bryanAbryanA Member Posts: 62

    your community is BS remove me from this site.

  • MalianeaMalianea Member Posts: 314

    I told you they are liars heh. Now they are just proving it out in the open.

    There is far more proof that is covered by the NDA. If that drops in the next couple years and anyone is still interested i will gladly display it ::::18::

    Edit: Oh just shut up and leave if this place is so horrible Bryan.

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  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043


    Originally posted by bryanA
    your community is BS remove me from this site.

    You dont have the will power to just leave?

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686


    Originally posted by damkar
    Wow!? If this is to be believed, then MMORPG.com news was actually FALSE claim! Yikes! That isn't good at all....Originally posted by Orcc
    Well this should end the discussion...THE MOURNING DEVS ASKED FOR THE GAME TO BE REMOVED FROM MMORPG.COMQuote from Mourning administrator:
    Yet MMORPG staff came up and said some things about us which should have never be said in a professional relationship.That's why I said yes when our discussion came to the point of which we should have to ask from MMORPG staff to entirely delete Mourning game and its forums from their site.And I'm quite sure that not we are the ones who'll have to lose from this.And as a last thing, it's astonishing to see that they claim they were the ones doing this because they felt so: quote:Today MMORPG.com has made the difficult decision to remove the game "Mourning" from our list of MMORPG's as well as shut down our Mourning specific forums. We would like to clarify that this decision was not based on the actions of any community members at MMORPG.com - rather our core feelings about the company behind this project, and the way they treat us and their community.My dear MMORPG staff, what about the fact the WE expressely asked you to do this?I gues we'll see who was right about this. Atm I'm just glad we don't have to deal anymore with all the trollings from those forums.

    End of discussion on MMORPG.com showing favoritism.





    You don't pay attention very well do you?

    Richard J. Cox
    "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."

  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    LOL ya and ive been here for over 2 years. You dont know me or a thing about me, so dont comment on my life ::::18::

    Plus you dont see me going to the mourning boards and throwing a little temper tantrum now do we?

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  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178


    Originally posted by bryanA
    Originally posted by Orcc
    Originally posted by bryanA
    your community is BS remove me from this site.

    You dont have the will power to just leave?




    So I can say their community is BS and Mourning can't?

    And you have over 1k posts get a life and go outside instead of typing you lsoer


    he is funny.....maybe he is here a long time and that would explain the 1000+ post....

  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    You realise 1600 posts over the course of 2 years averages out to only 2 posts a day? Either way, im furthering my education outside of highschool and due to your obvious lack of intelligence ill assume you aren't. I have my life all planned out for the next 6 years and things seem to be shaping up well. Ill leave it at that.

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  • RJCoxRJCox Member Posts: 2,686

    Enough. End it.

    Richard J. Cox
    "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."

  • MalianeaMalianea Member Posts: 314

    Well, bryanA did ask to be removed lol.

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  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178


    Originally posted by bryanA
    ahahahhahaha, what you just said was almost as good as /pizza


    i did not find /pizza such a bad idea....and what is wrong with planning you life?

  • BronxChuloBronxChulo Member Posts: 166

    No offense but this whole thread has turned into one big flame session.

    I'm not sure what happen and frankly I don't care because I never even looked at the game or site.  If MMORPG.com choose to remove the game from their list they did it for their own reasons.

  • SilkGoDSilkGoD Member Posts: 7

    Good riddance! and mmorpg.com represents the MMORPG community VERY WELL, they cover all the news, they promote games and contests and community interaction etc.

    The mourning developers are so petty and lame and their game is garbage, but on the other hand Mourning IS an mmorpg game so, I dunno..

    But on a personal level I'm happy that you did this, I want their game to fail.

  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623

    Please - stay on topic.  We will lock this topic if it turns into a flame-war or goes into personal attacks.

    Continue to use this thread to discuss our decision and let us know what you think.  Posting out of topic will get you temp banned or get your post deleted.

    - MMORPG.COM Staff -

    The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.

  • RaenzRaenz Member UncommonPosts: 81

    MMORPG.com is a site dedicated to covering MMOGs..sure.  But let's not forget it that it is still a private org that chooses to do this.  Since they pay for hosting and dedicate the time to do such a thing, it is their right to pick and chose games they want to cover and promote.

    If you can imagine what those PMs and emails involved coming from LH(judging from how they handle other PR matters), I have no doubt that MMORPG.com had good reason to do what they did.

    -Raenz-

  • stav1stav1 Member Posts: 282

    While the Mourning PR team leaves alot to be desired, there were many posts on mmorpg.com that insisted Mourning was a scam without any proof.

    I can only assume that this minority of posters had evil intentions of some sort and I think the moderators of mmorpg.com didn't really do their job properly by allowing this to continue. I can understand why the Mourning team got irate over this. I can also understand your decision to remove Mourning if Limitless Horizons were indeed threatening you. However you should provide some sort of proof - these communications aren't confidential are they?

    Its a shame that about 5% of posters have succeded in getting the Mourning forums shut down on this board (and they seem to have originated from one guild). THe Mourning discussion forum was very enjoyable and there were some good arguments both from those who supported and opposed the game (who were the vast majority of posters).

    These problems could have been avoided if the Mourning team had a slight grounding in PR and your moderators moderated slightly more.

     

     

  • AsdeliarAsdeliar Member Posts: 1

    Anyway, anyhow if the mmorpg staff decides to remove the game for any reason whatsoever, its their site and their decision,

    and if they were asked to remove the game than they cant even be blamed for anything,

    so it doesnt matter in any way, i dont really see any reason to get upset for anything this trivial

     

    ps

    if you think mmorpg.com is a good place and a good 'target' to criticize media coverage ^^ just watch cnn

  • FidusFidus Member Posts: 28

    This is a very low move by mmorpg.com, im personally shocked that they would let themselves be drawn into an emotional war. I couldnt beleive my eyes when i saw on the front page saying mmorpg decided to remove all news of mourning from there site. mmorpg may not be as censored as most places but it offers a resource for news, up untill this point i thought it was unbiased as any good reporting site should be. Obviousley they let there personal feelings interefere with there profesional outlook on there website, I for one will try to find a more honest website who is willing to report things as they are, not how they think they should be. Further more, im not sure wether i will get the game mourning any more, im upset with there behaviour towards some of the members, but I find mmorpg.com's move a childish and poor business strategy. you should never allow your personal feelings to interfere the way your run your reporting site, the only thing you have done is discredit your selves..

  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623



    Originally posted by stav1

     
    Its a shame that about 5% of posters have succeded in getting the Mourning forums shut down on this board (and they seem to have originated from one guild). THe Mourning discussion forum was very enjoyable and there were some good arguments both from those who supported and opposed the game (who were the vast majority of posters).



    As stated in the news post - the posts in the forums had nothing to do with our decision.  We encourage our community to speak freely so long as they can do so without attacking other members.

    - MMORPG.COM Staff -

    The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.

  • AdminAdmin Administrator RarePosts: 5,623



    Originally posted by Fidus

    This is a very low move by mmorpg.com, im personally shocked that they would let themselves be drawn into an emotional war. I couldnt beleive my eyes when i saw on the front page saying mmorpg decided to remove all news of mourning from there site. mmorpg may not be as censored as most places but it offers a resource for news, up untill this point i thought it was unbiased as any good reporting site should be. Obviousley they let there personal feelings interefere with there profesional outlook on there website, I for one will try to find a more honest website who is willing to report things as they are, not how they think they should be. Further more, im not sure wether i will get the game mourning any more, im upset with there behaviour towards some of the members, but I find mmorpg.com's move a childish and poor business strategy. you should never allow your personal feelings to interfere the way your run your reporting site, the only thing you have done is discredit your selves..



    We made this decision in the best interest of our community - not because of emotions.  In fact we took some time here in the office to calm down and decide our response to LHE.  I have made bad choices in the past due to being upset and running off emotions - I wanted to make sure this did not happen again here.

    The bottom line is I don't feel right about sending people to a game that I feel treats people badly or with dishonesty.

    - MMORPG.COM Staff -

    The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.

  • gargantroogargantroo Member Posts: 1,477


    Originally posted by Relent
    So, you're announcing that the reason your list of mmogs is incomplete is the result of favoritism on the part of the mmorpg.com staff.
    How many other mmogs are missing because their companies didn't stroke you well enough? How many scores/reviews have been adjusted by this policy of filtering information to fit your mood?
    I guess since you aren't a real news organization you don't feel obligated to any particular ethic. It shouldn't surprise me given that IGE banner up there polluting your site, but up until this I thought you at least pretended you still represented the mmog community.

    News orginizations are very biast and unethical. So if MMORPG.com is being biased and unethical (which they arent) I say it is one step closer to being a real news orginization ::::02::


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  • FidusFidus Member Posts: 28


    Originally posted by Admin
    Originally posted by stav1

    Its a shame that about 5% of posters have succeded in getting the Mourning forums shut down on this board (and they seem to have originated from one guild). THe Mourning discussion forum was very enjoyable and there were some good arguments both from those who supported and opposed the game (who were the vast majority of posters).
    As stated in the news post - the posts in the forums had nothing to do with our decision. We encourage our community to speak freely so long as they can do so without attacking other members.


    Don't you think you took a little too far? i mean if you guys are claiming to be an mmo coverage site, shouldnt you cover all mmo's? i mean your only hurting yourselves by doing this. I want mmorpg.com to succeed and i like it as a source of information, but if you are going to let your personal interactions with a company affect your judgment on filtering out various games then people are going to be less confident in your ability to bring them the news. If you feel that there was some wrong done by the mourning devs, then if youc an legally post and contribute to the discussions on the game, but activiley avoiding a game that is a part of the a subject you are covering and then posting some of the things youve posted in here already is just masacistic.

    If you want to be THE mmo site then you can't be prejudice.

  • RaenzRaenz Member UncommonPosts: 81

    Again for the record....we never got any word from Mourning to remove their game.  We decided this today after they called our community "BS" in a private message sent to us from their staff.

    Well, given LH track record with such things (somethingawful.com comes to mind), I believe ya.

    -Raenz-

  • FidusFidus Member Posts: 28


    Originally posted by Admin
    Originally posted by Fidus
    This is a very low move by mmorpg.com, im personally shocked that they would let themselves be drawn into an emotional war. I couldnt beleive my eyes when i saw on the front page saying mmorpg decided to remove all news of mourning from there site. mmorpg may not be as censored as most places but it offers a resource for news, up untill this point i thought it was unbiased as any good reporting site should be. Obviousley they let there personal feelings interefere with there profesional outlook on there website, I for one will try to find a more honest website who is willing to report things as they are, not how they think they should be. Further more, im not sure wether i will get the game mourning any more, im upset with there behaviour towards some of the members, but I find mmorpg.com's move a childish and poor business strategy. you should never allow your personal feelings to interfere the way your run your reporting site, the only thing you have done is discredit your selves..
    We made this decision in the best interest of our community - not because of emotions. In fact we took some time here in the office to calm down and decide our response to LHE. I have made bad choices in the past due to being upset and running off emotions - I wanted to make sure this did not happen again here.
    The bottom line is I don't feel right about sending people to a game that I feel treats people badly or with dishonesty.


    At the very least give us some insight into what helped you come to this conclusion. we as a community would like to know im sure. To us its coming across as a blanket statment and seems very personal. In my oppinion i think it would be more ethical and better if you reported on the behaviour you have seen, it may help the mourning community and may even help the game itself. No true mourning fan will question that the devs pr in mourning is lacking, but at least report your findings not dismiss it.

    btw thank you for the prompt responses and continued interaction with this post, it means a lot.

  • RaenzRaenz Member UncommonPosts: 81



    Originally posted by Fidus




    Originally posted by Admin


    Originally posted by stav1

    Its a shame that about 5% of posters have succeded in getting the Mourning forums shut down on this board (and they seem to have originated from one guild). THe Mourning discussion forum was very enjoyable and there were some good arguments both from those who supported and opposed the game (who were the vast majority of posters).

    As stated in the news post - the posts in the forums had nothing to do with our decision. We encourage our community to speak freely so long as they can do so without attacking other members.



    Don't you think you took a little too far? i mean if you guys are claiming to be an mmo coverage site, shouldnt you cover all mmo's? i mean your only hurting yourselves by doing this. I want mmorpg.com to succeed and i like it as a source of information, but if you are going to let your personal interactions with a company affect your judgment on filtering out various games then people are going to be less confident in your ability to bring them the news. If you feel that there was some wrong done by the mourning devs, then if youc an legally post and contribute to the discussions on the game, but activiley avoiding a game that is a part of the a subject you are covering and then posting some of the things youve posted in here already is just masacistic.

    If you want to be THE mmo site then you can't be prejudice.



    They don't have to take abuse either, and it sounds like that's all they were getting for their trouble in covering Mourning. 

    Personally, I like MMORPG.com even more now, knowing that they are not going to fold, or play lap dog to every game company that thinks they should be.

    -Raenz-

  • klapdoorklapdoor Member UncommonPosts: 87


    Originally posted by bryanA
    AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!TIAMAT POSTED THIS : "The deletion of Mourning forums and game from MMORPG.com was due to our express request.We don't need boards which are exactly the opposite of the concepts based on which we founded our community.That's the same reason because of which we refused to make VN boards as Mourning game boards. You can't create a true community nor get any help from some boards filled up more than 90% with insulting languages and flame wars.Also, we were always encuraged out community to speak up their minds, and act like people with spine. We don't need mindless fanbois as our followers, the same as we don't need trolls messing up our boards.We didn't shout the mouth of threads or discussions saying bad things about our game, because ALL the input and feedback is needed in order to make things work as they really should. A developer must be really stupid to do that to his community.All we EVER asked was to use a common sense language and support your saying with facts and examples, and mostly banned only people which used bad language or trolled the boards. I said mostly because there were some a few exceptions allready well known from this, but we hope that we already solved that, and it will never happens again.Also, I don't understand the behavior of MMORPG staff. we never said MMORPG.com sucks, we just said Mourning boards from their site are a lame excuse of a forum. I guess we had the right to say that about the forum of OUR game from their site. There weren't mature discussion about our game in there, as they should as it was a game's board, but in fact only imature people trolling everything related with our game, like all the Mourning-is-a-scum magic or the billing-thinggye. I guess if those kinds of posts would have been made on other game's forums in there, they would have been quickly dealt with.. but of course, for Mourning wasn't the case.. Also, they didn't did anything regarding all the ones which posted in there all sort of stupid things to feed those flame wars and preteding they are from our staff.Yet MMORPG staff came up and said some things about us which should have never be said in a professional relationship.That's why I said yes when our discussion came to the point of which we should have to ask from MMORPG staff to entirely delete Mourning game and its forums from their site.And I'm quite sure that not we are the ones who'll have to lose from this.And as a last thing, it's astonishing to see that they claim they were the ones doing this because they felt so: quote:Today MMORPG.com has made the difficult decision to remove the game "Mourning" from our list of MMORPG's as well as shut down our Mourning specific forums. We would like to clarify that this decision was not based on the actions of any community members at MMORPG.com - rather our core feelings about the company behind this project, and the way they treat us and their community.My dear MMORPG staff, what about the fact the WE expressely asked you to do this?I gues we'll see who was right about this. Atm I'm just glad we don't have to deal anymore with all the trollings from those forums."
    So just because the arent funded with corp fat pigs means you cant mod their boards and get the kids banned? Mourning is doing everything they arent taking handouts by SOE Blizzard or Microsfot. MMORPG tell the story right.

    Well to be honest, if the above was indeed posted by an official representative of the company making Mourning, I'm much, much more inclined to believe mmorpg.com... No professional company would ever comunicate in this way, not even behind closed doors. It looks more like a teenager throwing a tantrum over not getting his own way....

    I'm realy glad I spotted this. I was soemwhat interested in Mourning and I'm often not much inclined to be swayed by the opinion of those on third party messageboards. But seeing this, I would not touch anything concerning Mourning with a 100 yard pole. Thank you mmorpg.com!!

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