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When you start DF the very first time you have this protecting flag, which make you pvp off, why not making this flag to be turned on whenever you please but if you turned pvp flag on? you would not be able to turn it back off ever again.
That way everyone can take part in the same game and no need for pve server.
And with pvp off you also keep your loot, but you have to go back to get it if you fall victim.
Not sure that would go with darkfall though. But someone should do it.
It's entirely possible to play eve or perpetuum without hardly ever pvping. Your never completely safe but its very very rare to get attacked in high sec areas.
Because your actions as player having a persistant non scripted impact on the game world is meaningless. ok.
Why you people even bother to come on sandbox game forums when you cant seem to grasp the very basics of why people like sandboxes I cant understand. There is a plethora of themepark titles relevant to your interests, go there and leave us with our interest.
Sandbox does not equal to PVP inclusively.
The company involved in creating the game, are pvp fans, setting out to create a pvp centric mmo, not a PVE, everything for everyone, game. They simply show no inclination whatsoever, they don't want to make a non pvp game. No, that's not a stupid reason.
The company involved are aiming it at a specfic niche audience, they are well aware that they could churn out a themepark and probably make more money. But they want to stick to their vision. They don't want Darkfall Lite, they want to focus on Darkfall the open world pvp game. No, that's not a stupid reason.
All the major mechanics of the game are built upon, or interlinked with FFA, open, loot based pvp. Changing that is not "simple". It takes time, moneyy and effort, something the devs should be spending on the core model. No, that's not a stupid reason.
People who signed up for the game, as a pvp centric sandbox, want the development team to focus 100% of their time, money and effort on the core model. Not some half assed pve server just in the off chance that they might get more subs from an audience the game was never aimed at in the first place. No, that's not a stupid reason.
Not every sandbox is trying to be like EVE, not every game is aimed at everyone. This game happens to be aimed at pvp centric, open world players. A pve sandbox might be great, butchering a pvp sandbox into one, nope that isn't a great idea. So no, that's not a stupid reason either.
I'm not sure what is so difficult to grasp with the fact that the company doesn't seem to want to do it, the fact that the fans have a major issue with time and money being devoted on a form of the game they didn't sign up for and the fact that it isn't easy to remove pvp from a game completely built upon pvp. It's a pvp game, built by a pvp fanboi dev team, for a pvp audience. "PVE server plox!!!!!!!".....
But let's consider the arguments for it to be fair. Oh right they are: "I would totally play a pve version of a pvp game dude" fantastic reason. "Like they would make so much more money if they just deviated completely from their core ideas". Yeah, really solid arguments from the pro PVE camp thus far.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
I love you, EPIC post.
PVE Care Bears, leave our game alone, go play your 10000000 of PVE games, we literally only have a few.
Eve and perpetuum are both space type games, there aren't any open world sandbox games with optional pvp and without FFA loot, all those games are hijecked by pvpers.
With pvp off, there will be so many spy. This is the number 1 reason on why im against it.
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Well, this is a good thing not knowing who is spy and who is not, you would have to outsmurt those spy agents, and that make's the game more interesting.
It wouldn't matter who the spies were, you couldn't do anything about it with PVP off.
Having people immune to PvP would lead to griefing on an epic level.
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So first, I'll challenge you to the same question as I did last time. What if the company came out and said that they're doing PVE servers, it's done, completed, finished, what would your objection be to that? Would you tell them "hey why did you waste that money on getting more subs?"
Second, let me remind you, that last real content update Darkfall has seen was in November of 2009, Conquer The Seas (don't you even dare try and say that Hellfreeze was a content patch). So... I don't even know where you get your argument about "should be working on the blah blah blah".
Third I challenge you to give me one good reason, as a gamer, why PVE servers would be bad. And because you are incapable of putting yourself outside the company... you think you work for the company, imagine that "the company" got a team of 500 developers and 50 million dollars from ... Barrack Obama, to implement a PVE server asap. In other words, disregard all concerns for financial well being of the company and 'them wasting their time', and just focus on the issue as a gamer. Give me one good argument against PVE server alongside the normal server.
And finally, we are both wasting our time. PVE servers will never happen, because this is Aventurine we're talking about, and I'm content with that. Even if they did implement it, I wouldn't play on it. Why I would like PVE servers is because eventually those PVE guys will start playing on PVP server as well. Bigger population = more fun. Unlike you, I've played, and still playing, Darkfall since the game launched, and I know full well the effects that a low population has on the gaming experience.
See you in 2.0.
Playing: Darkfall Unholy Wars
Played: Darkfall, EVE, AoC, Ryzom, Ragnarok Online, GW2, PS2, Secret World, WOW, City Of Heroes/Villains, Champion Online.
How would they be able to grieff?
I take it youre new to online gaming? Think about it
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
That's what I thought, you have no clue of what you say.
Its obvious you have comprehesion issues so I'll spell out a few.
Following and reporting real players movements
Blocking real players
Trainging mobs
Farming resouces in clan controlled areas.
Yes, working on it
Cool... will have to see about finding them once game starts... was the alliance I was in during launch of DF1... great times lol.
Looking at LKK, SS, Hooligans and others from Mourning
This is not the problem, the main problem is you don't like to share same game with those who don't want to take part in pvp full time.
Ego.
True. But its become well known as EVE on the ground. ^^ Its a rather entertaining game, and has much potential.
http://www.perpetuum-online.com/
If someone make a sandbox MMORPG like avatar, where you could take part in space, on land, being able to enter robots, like perpetuum and exit, be your self "real person" roming around vast world and is pve with optional pvp or choosing raider or mersenary faction to become full time pvp enabled.
With fallout engaging combat and smart AI like in rage.
I would gladly give my money for such entertainment.