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Ashen Empires on the rise after new developer company

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  • AE-MagneticAE-Magnetic Member Posts: 15

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      So Psyklon, given that your 15 minute evaluation (if you even bothered at all) was so complete, how about posting a little substance.  Some of us posted why we LIKE the game.  How about you post why you did NOT beyond simple adjectives like it ‘sucked’ it was ‘bad’ etc.  Did you bother to try some trade skilling such as mining, lumberjacking, fishing, forging, foraging, farming, carpentry, etc?  Did you bother trying the quests, combat, actually (god forbid) talking to other players?  Did you try PvP and non PvP servers (both with different communities)   If you’ve done none of this, then no, you have NOT evaluated the game fairly.  Play it for a few days then come back and tell me why it is ‘sooo bad.’  But at least be more descriptive and constructive than that.  And no I don’t want to hear how ‘bad’ the graphics are either so save your breath because we’ve already been over it.  And if you don’t want to do that then how about keeping your opinion to yourself and go find another honest thread to troll.

  • AE-MagneticAE-Magnetic Member Posts: 15



    Originally posted by Xzaro

    I know if I was a newbie to MMORPGs, I would try AE from reading this post if:
    1) You guys didn't all come at the same time and spam the hell out of this thread
    2) You guys came to this site and wanted to share your game by yourself, not because someone on your forums said "post a few times so you can rank the game".
    3) Honesty on the ranking system, instead of raising it to it's highest hoping to get a random newbie.

    You guys still have much to learn about how to advertise on a forum, having 5 people register at the same time and post about how good the game is isn't good strategy. An average person won't go "wow, look, so many people like that game, I think I will try it out". Instead, the average person would go "why are these people spamming about how good their game is, and are giving dishonest rankings".
    The average person wants to go into a thread, hoping that only 1 or 2 people actually give truly honest reviews, give a few negatives about the game (regardless of how well it is, there are negatives), and believe it or not, if an average MMORPG player sees that the person posted negatives after the horde of positives about the game, they will think they are truly honest and really want to get people to see the real game, not just all the positives. We don't want exaggerated comments and positive info about the game also, nothing like "WOW! AFTER TKO LEFT AND IWG CAME TEH GAME WAS TEHz AWESOME!".
    Whether you take this as advice or just another flame, is up to you, I could care less anymore



    Xzaro: I haven’t even ranked the game on your chart yet.  And negatives from players have been posted so this isn’t a case of hype the game and only accentuate the positives.  In my case sure, I highlighted the strengths of why _I_ thought it was a great game after all as you stated, people want to come here for honest opinion and that is what I’ve given as has everyone else here from our community to the best of my knowledge.   Where I take issue with some of the trollers to this thread is where they accuse us of various things including dishonesty and ‘hype for the sake of hype’ etc. and then go on to rag on the game without bothering to try it first.  That is where I have an issue.  Negative constructive comments are one thing.  Negative comments without basis are another.

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  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848

    "Forum invading" is always stupid. Most if not all forums have insta-ban when somebody makes a "lets go to this forum spam the shit out of them"-thread.

    If its such a great game, guess what? It will make the news if its succesful, since there isnt any mmorpg that has been succesful/good after getting new investors/devs/penguins/nuns.

    I remmember Ashen Empires vagely, didnt spark my "must play"-gene & doubt it will becuase people spam for the "greater good".

  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810

    Dransik owns all of you. also to the fags at the beginning of this thread...yoru just trying to troll and get people angry because you obviously have a disease called "G.A.Y" and most of you shouldnt be tlaking because your mad that people actually like a different game than WoW

    burned

    anyways i played Dransik since classic...sorta quit when TKO took over now im thinking of re-joining

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  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810


    Originally posted by JelloB2000
    "Forum invading" is always stupid. Most if not all forums have insta-ban when somebody makes a "lets go to this forum spam the shit out of them"-thread. If its such a great game, guess what? It will make the news if its succesful, since there isnt any mmorpg that has been succesful/good after getting new investors/devs/penguins/nuns.I remmember Ashen Empires vagely, didnt spark my "must play"-gene & doubt it will becuase people spam for the "greater good".


    1) this is not forum invading because all gave it legit resons why its good

    2) just because WoW made hte news doesnt mean its good

    3)go back to playing WoW

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  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719


    Originally posted by bobbler
    Originally posted by JelloB2000
    "Forum invading" is always stupid. Most if not all forums have insta-ban when somebody makes a "lets go to this forum spam the shit out of them"-thread. If its such a great game, guess what? It will make the news if its succesful, since there isnt any mmorpg that has been succesful/good after getting new investors/devs/penguins/nuns.I remmember Ashen Empires vagely, didnt spark my "must play"-gene & doubt it will becuase people spam for the "greater good".


    1) this is not forum invading because all gave it legit resons why its good

    2) just because WoW made hte news doesnt mean its good

    3)go back to playing WoW


    No no, obviously WoW can't be good and successful because it only made over 1.5 million subscribers worldwide so far.

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  • FerroFerro Member Posts: 5

    I don't see what's the big deal here. All the players of ashen empires are exited about the upcoming update and not many knew about this site. One of the members posted about it so we though it would be good to post about the game on the forums so other people can get to know the game and maybe they'll like it. It was in no way a publicity or whatever you want to call it. We were told about the site today by a player so some of us posted here and that's why we're all new members with low post count (you have to start somewhere). As for rating, I personnly try to rate it as fair as possible, and i know for a fact that many others are rating it honestly, there will always be players who will give 10 to everything but that happens in every game. Our intension was good and we wanted to talk about the game we've been playing for a while. I personly respect other opinions whether you like the game or absolutly hate it (of course if you actually tried it) but i don't see the need for flaming our posts and start an argument about the false intensions of us posting here and about other meaningless subjects (like the 3D vs.2D argument)

  • ConnoisseurConnoisseur Member Posts: 273



    Originally posted by stone-seraph

    and all of those posters have under 5 post count . . . not that i'm implying someone's trying to pull the ol' make-the-game-look-like-theres-a-lot-of-hype-around-it-by-creating-multiple-accounts-and-posting-as-if-lots-of-people-are-excited-about-it-on-all-the-different-accounts scheme or anything. I mean its not like more than half those accounts were created today or anything right?



    No, it truly is a great game. I'm one of the few players who started when it was called Dransik around 4-5 years ago.
  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015

    To all the AE supporters in this thread:

    You're right about one thing. Graphics definitely do not make a game. Hell, I still play from my collection of NES and SNES games regularly, because there are certian games that are just plain good. And in my opinion, one of the best PC RPG series to be released in recent years (meaning the 3D era) have been the games in the Avernum series. Anyone who knows this series definitely knows that graphics cannot be of importance to you if you are to enjoy it.

    Given that, what you need to realize is that a game needs to have something to make up for the lack of current technology, however. I see nothing in your pep talks or anything from the main website that makes this game stand out, mechanics wise, from anything else that is available out there. In fact, the number one thing you guys hype about your game is the community. Well guess what? You can find a good community in any game you play--AE is not unique for it.

    So, why don't you tell us, besides the community--what is it that will want to make someone pay nine bucks a month for Ashen Empires? What's truly different?

  • FerroFerro Member Posts: 5

    i can't really tell you what's diffrent because i havn't played many games but if it helps i can tell you what i and many others like about the game. We mainly like the many options the game offers. There's many skills to use. You can be a cook, a fighter, a mage, a carpenter and many others and what's good is that you can be all of them at once. You can master tradeskilling like lumberjaking, milling,carpentry, mining, smelting, forging, planting,spinning,weaving,sewing, skinning, tanning, leather working to make some armor and wepons that you can use to fight individually and get some intresting treasures or make a team to fight challenging monsters and get a better reward. The game is good as it is now but the good part is yet to come, there's an update due any day now that will include new features and hundreds (maybe a thousand+) of new items and some new graphics which should make the game even more intresting.
    Another thing I like about the game is support. Since the new company IWG took over, customer support has been really helpfull and GMs are nice and always help when needed.

  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810


    Originally posted by Xzaro
    Originally posted by bobbler
    Originally posted by JelloB2000
    "Forum invading" is always stupid. Most if not all forums have insta-ban when somebody makes a "lets go to this forum spam the shit out of them"-thread. If its such a great game, guess what? It will make the news if its succesful, since there isnt any mmorpg that has been succesful/good after getting new investors/devs/penguins/nuns.I remmember Ashen Empires vagely, didnt spark my "must play"-gene & doubt it will becuase people spam for the "greater good".


    1) this is not forum invading because all gave it legit resons why its good

    2) just because WoW made hte news doesnt mean its good

    3)go back to playing WoW


    No no, obviously WoW can't be good and successful because it only made over 1.5 million subscribers worldwide so far.



    how many people it has means nothing

    the community is what makes a game good

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  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    I played Ashen for awhile... all I can say is that since its P2P now (or least thats what I heard) why not just play UO?

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  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810


    Originally posted by darquenblade
    To all the AE supporters in this thread:
    You're right about one thing. Graphics definitely do not make a game. Hell, I still play from my collection of NES and SNES games regularly, because there are certian games that are just plain good. And in my opinion, one of the best PC RPG series to be released in recent years (meaning the 3D era) have been the games in the Avernum series. Anyone who knows this series definitely knows that graphics cannot be of importance to you if you are to enjoy it.
    Given that, what you need to realize is that a game needs to have something to make up for the lack of current technology, however. I see nothing in your pep talks or anything from the main website that makes this game stand out, mechanics wise, from anything else that is available out there. In fact, the number one thing you guys hype about your game is the community. Well guess what? You can find a good community in any game you play--AE is not unique for it.
    So, why don't you tell us, besides the community--what is it that will want to make someone pay nine bucks a month for Ashen Empires? What's truly different?

    the thing that makes it different from many other MMORPGs me that has played 98% of them including hte korean ones is that you can start at as any class and train in any skill like you can be everything...sorta like UO but with no cap like you can be leatherworker,carpenter,tailor,farmer,cook,archer,SB master,nature/Harm mage, and basically everything else... also the game plays out really fluid and isnt a huge grind fest like L2

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  • ThetyrantThetyrant Member UncommonPosts: 18

    Oh gezz,

    Well To clear the record here, i have been apart of mmorpg for a long while now, But i dont really post that much, im too busy in the Ashen Empires forums, and irc channel. Im not part of the DEV team nor the GMs, but i do play a active role in the community - in game and outside of the game.  Im not going to flame and point fingers, but i am going to defend our community rating the game we play on this site. Shameless promotion? Since when is it a crime to promote a game you love, and if you havent done the same, your lieing. Dont Judge this game without trying it, im not getting on WoW forums and saying how dumb the game is. I actually think the game is amazing, cept the simple fact servers are on a overhaul, and they need to manage them better.

    Please Just Dont Judge a game, before playing it.  I thought this would be a great way to communicate with teh rest of the gaming brothers and sisters, its sad to see so many that are bloodthristy and cut-throat.

    Thetyrant
    Iron Will Games Developer
    www.ashenempires.com
    www.dransik.com

  • XzaroXzaro Member UncommonPosts: 1,719


    Originally posted by Ferro
    I don't see what's the big deal here. All the players of ashen empires are exited about the upcoming update and not many knew about this site. One of the members posted about it so we though it would be good to post about the game on the forums so other people can get to know the game and maybe they'll like it. It was in no way a publicity or whatever you want to call it. We were told about the site today by a player so some of us posted here and that's why we're all new members with low post count (you have to start somewhere). As for rating, I personnly try to rate it as fair as possible, and i know for a fact that many others are rating it honestly, there will always be players who will give 10 to everything but that happens in every game. Our intension was good and we wanted to talk about the game we've been playing for a while. I personly respect other opinions whether you like the game or absolutly hate it (of course if you actually tried it) but i don't see the need for flaming our posts and start an argument about the false intensions of us posting here and about other meaningless subjects (like the 3D vs.2D argument)

    This is exactly what I'd like to hear ::::19::

    But i've tried Ashen Empires a while ago, only played for 30 minutes before quitting.

    Maybe i'll try it again, if I can bother to, sometime.

    Btw, I apologize for being quite harsh back there.

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  • FerroFerro Member Posts: 5

    it's np :)
    You should give it a shot once the update is released.

  • ChorseryChorsery Member Posts: 22

    I'm going to start this post by saying, yes I'm new to this site, yes I got on this site so that I could talk about this game. That being said, however, I am far from new to MMORPG's and I after playing several other games - UO, EVE, RYL, SoG and others - I'm still stuck on this game.

    This game, not hyped by some multi-billion dollar company, has been created, loved, nursed and developed by people who love the game itself and care about those that play. To me, that already makes it interesting. This relationship between Devs/GM's/Player fosters a unique and intimate environment - a deep community.

    If you want splashy system hogging graphics and pointless slash and run game play, then this game isn't for you.

    However, this game is balanced, has the best skill tree with tremendous character flexibility of any game I've played.

    After playing, quiting and playing again, it still holds my interest.

    Others on this thread have been eloquent, but I'm not posting here to 'hype' the game, but I am posting to let others know about a small market MMORPG which to me is the best kept secret out there.

  • kisa_retiredkisa_retired Member Posts: 3

    I guess I will say my piece since I am here.

    Is AE the perfect game for everyone?

    NO

    Is Ae the perfect game for me?

    Yes

    It has everything I want in a MMORPG. I love the trade skills and how you can basically do what ever you want without earlier skill choices affecting you. I even liked the PVP system until we had more and criminals start playing. I think it was too easy to be criminal in the current system. Hopefully this will change with the update since there has been talk about a new alignment system. The community as a whole is great. Sure we have our share of beggars and jerks , but they are not the majority.

    The graphics are not the best, and they aren't 3-d, but they are good. I can handle any other games graphics out there so this has not been something that is a factor in my decision. I wish the updates would come a little faster, but our new dev team has not had a fair shot yet. They are still working with the old companys update schedule. After this update due out in a couple weeks they will be on their own so we will see then.

    In conclusion I would just like to say give the game a fair shot before judging it. You can't judge a game after only 30 minutes. I believe there is still a 7 day free trial. If you can't get past the graphics though I don't think any length trial will change your mind. Imagine the lag if we only had one MMORPG for all of us to play. I don't want to take anyone away from their "perfect" game, but if anyone is looking then give AE a shot it may or may not be what you are looking for.

  • stone-seraphstone-seraph Member Posts: 376


    Originally posted by bobbler
    Dransik owns all of you. also to the fags at the beginning of this thread...yoru just trying to troll and get people angry because you obviously have a disease called "G.A.Y" and most of you shouldnt be tlaking because your mad that people actually like a different game than WoWburnedanyways i played Dransik since classic...sorta quit when TKO took over now im thinking of re-joining

    ok then, i never made an attack on you, just brought to attention how sketchy the "advertising" was, i've never played WoW or EQ2 or any other game you might want to bash because its successful (it must be some evil corporate horrible game because it's mainstream?) . . . ever, and it seems like you just called us trolls then starting slinging mud . . . hypocrite maybe?

    Make of it what you will.
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  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810


    Originally posted by stone-seraph
    Originally posted by bobbler
    Dransik owns all of you. also to the fags at the beginning of this thread...yoru just trying to troll and get people angry because you obviously have a disease called "G.A.Y" and most of you shouldnt be tlaking because your mad that people actually like a different game than WoWburnedanyways i played Dransik since classic...sorta quit when TKO took over now im thinking of re-joining

    ok then, i never made an attack on you, just brought to attention how sketchy the "advertising" was, i've never played WoW . . . ever, and it seems like you just called us trolls then starting slinging mud . . . hypocrite maybe?



    No, I was defending a great game and great people. also it wasnt directly at you it was at someone else whose name will not be mentioned whereas they might start crying and running to their mommy =o. it was more of a some of you dont know what your talking about and they showed the attitude of a WoW player which flames everyother game and gives all the otehr games ones instead of the correct rating it should recieve from proper experiance.[(WoW player its a new internet term =o) refer to previouse sentence to know the meaning]

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  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015


    Originally posted by bobbler
    Originally posted by stone-seraph
    Originally posted by bobbler
    Dransik owns all of you. also to the fags at the beginning of this thread...yoru just trying to troll and get people angry because you obviously have a disease called "G.A.Y" and most of you shouldnt be tlaking because your mad that people actually like a different game than WoWburnedanyways i played Dransik since classic...sorta quit when TKO took over now im thinking of re-joining

    ok then, i never made an attack on you, just brought to attention how sketchy the "advertising" was, i've never played WoW . . . ever, and it seems like you just called us trolls then starting slinging mud . . . hypocrite maybe?



    No, I was defending a great game and great people. also it wasnt directly at you it was at someone else whose name will not be mentioned whereas they might start crying and running to their mommy =o. it was more of a some of you dont know what your talking about and they showed the attitude of a WoW player which flames everyother game and gives all the otehr games ones instead of the correct rating it should recieve from proper experiance.[(WoW player its a new internet term =o) refer to previouse sentence to know the meaning]


    And you defend your game in such a mature way, I must admit.

  • bobblerbobbler Member UncommonPosts: 810


    Originally posted by darquenblade
    Originally posted by bobbler
    Originally posted by stone-seraph
    Originally posted by bobbler
    Dransik owns all of you. also to the fags at the beginning of this thread...yoru just trying to troll and get people angry because you obviously have a disease called "G.A.Y" and most of you shouldnt be tlaking because your mad that people actually like a different game than WoWburnedanyways i played Dransik since classic...sorta quit when TKO took over now im thinking of re-joining

    ok then, i never made an attack on you, just brought to attention how sketchy the "advertising" was, i've never played WoW . . . ever, and it seems like you just called us trolls then starting slinging mud . . . hypocrite maybe?



    No, I was defending a great game and great people. also it wasnt directly at you it was at someone else whose name will not be mentioned whereas they might start crying and running to their mommy =o. it was more of a some of you dont know what your talking about and they showed the attitude of a WoW player which flames everyother game and gives all the otehr games ones instead of the correct rating it should recieve from proper experiance.[(WoW player its a new internet term =o) refer to previouse sentence to know the meaning]


    And you defend your game in such a mature way, I must admit.



    its not really my game, its a game i played as long as i played UO and its a game that will always be remembered

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  • Rachel1Rachel1 Member Posts: 17



    Originally posted by stone-seraph

    and all of those posters have under 5 post count . . . not that i'm implying someone's trying to pull the ol' make-the-game-look-like-theres-a-lot-of-hype-around-it-by-creating-multiple-accounts-and-posting-as-if-lots-of-people-are-excited-about-it-on-all-the-different-accounts scheme or anything. I mean its not like more than half those accounts were created today or anything right?


     

    Actually some of us just found out about this board.   IWG has provided a forum for us and personally, I had never heard of this board someone posted a message telling us it was here.  Maybe before you start making un warrented assumptions, we all know what an assumption does, you should just check out the game????? Oh that would be an idea?

  • Rachel1Rachel1 Member Posts: 17



    Originally posted by JudasIscario

    I play AE. In my opinion, AE is better than a lot of games. It's kept me there for a long time, and most game s don't do that. Everquest 2 sucks. Whoever plays that crap is stupid. If you judge a game by it's graphics, then you can go die. I judge a game by how fun it is, not how it looks.



    I understand what you are saying, and I guess people do these things.   We just found out about these boards and wanted to share a game with you all that we truly love.  We did not understand that people didn't want to hear about good games.  The first day I ever played this game my son introduced it to me and I looked and thought how lame.  I downloaded it because he asked me to and discovered how fun it was and how many different things  I could do and played all night.  I had never played a game with tradeskills and such and so many fun things to learn.  I don't think everytime a group finds out about these boards and starts to post that means the game is a hoax.  One of our friends found them and wanted to share with you all... I assure you he didn't realize you would be so angry and upset that we were trying to share something we love with new people???? I guess I dont understand that either.
  • Rachel1Rachel1 Member Posts: 17



    Originally posted by Malicus
    Anywayz just so you fanboys,mods or ceos  know, on this site if you unfairly hype your game way up and the regular community sees there is almost always a backlash. Just because you hyped it way too high ppl will purposely give it all 1s just to bring down to a believable level. So in actuality you are probably doing alot more harm then good. Basically the more attention you get from this community the lower the rating you will have is how i see it so I would skulk off now if I was you


    Actually I don't think any of us want people like you playing.  As they have said AE players are a tight knit community.... we really don't need people who only seek to cause trouble.  My opinion of your beloved 3d games is, it is for gamers who lack imagination. 

    AS I stated in a previous post, we don't want people like you Mal, we are a close knit group, we don't want close minded trouble makers like you.  If you can't handle the game moving up in the rankings?  What happened did it pass a game you like or something???? Who cares about the ratings we don't we just wanted other MMOPRG people to know there was a great game that was not highly advertised out there making great strides in MMOPRG games.  Some people might like to look into the game and try it!  Most of us have never rated any game here. 

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