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  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315
    This is an impulse spending issue not gambling.  In order for it to be actually gambling you would have to have a chance to win money or something of value.  Since skins and anything else that can drop really have no actual value its not gambling.
  • OberholzerOberholzer Member Posts: 498
    I can't believe all the pants wetting over these silly Halloween skins.
  • drakaenadrakaena Member UncommonPosts: 506
    Eh. Seems like a non issue. Logic says Anet will make acquiring skins for free extremely rare because they want players to spend rl money in their cash shop. 
  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by drakaena
    Eh. Seems like a non issue. Logic says Anet will make acquiring skins for free extremely rare because they want players to spend rl money in their cash shop. 

    although if they wanted that they would of made the skins non tradeable.. as of now every skin is on the trading post and  in good quantity.. some are expensive but its expected for a rare skin

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • drakaenadrakaena Member UncommonPosts: 506
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by drakaena
    Eh. Seems like a non issue. Logic says Anet will make acquiring skins for free extremely rare because they want players to spend rl money in their cash shop. 

    although if they wanted that they would of made the skins non tradeable.. as of now every skin is on the trading post and  in good quantity.. some are expensive but its expected for a rare skin

    But of course they want players to use the cash shop because everyone likes money. Yeah? Common sense. Their whole economy is based around the cash shop. It's not necessary but it is convenient and incentive laden. I personally never had an issue with it. 

    Why the need to defend all things GW2? I don't get it. Typically when I enjoy a game I could care less what others think, because I'm too busy playing it to notice. 

    Moderation is a virtue only in those who are thought to have an alternative.

  • Marcus-Marcus- Member UncommonPosts: 1,012

    Ahh Needz ma Skinz!!1!1!!!1!

     

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  • SilentstormSilentstorm Member UncommonPosts: 1,126

    Ok im going to stop this whining right now. For one if everyone could just buy everything it wouldnt be unique or even worth it. that leads to another problem that I bet you same whiners would cry about. EVERYONE looking the same no originality. This game prides itself on that very thing in its design. They are not going to let you just buy everything because you feel entitled to do so.

    Games where everyone can buy a look and all look the same are ghost towns dead or called warcraft. Leave that non sense there don't bring it into this game because your spoiled. It isn't going to happen no matter how much you whine or whatever. I personally don't care if I dont get a skin. Because its a USELESS skin not gear or anything that would make me any  stronger. Not even worth a topic this long on the forums. People should be bitching about having to do Arah again for a reward you already have in the mail. That crap is stupid this is just childish.

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  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,148
    Originally posted by ellobo29

    I personaly LOVE casinos and gambling in mmos. (hate gambleiing in RL thou).

    I wish they had an entire zone dedicated to it. It takes me back to ff7 silver nugget.... hmm those were the days....

    lol you mean you actually played the minigames there more than once?  what  a waste of time lol

  • dorksmetaldorksmetal Member Posts: 77
    if you spend realy money on gems you are doing it wrong.. make gold > gems > keys, i spent 30 gold into gems but ended up buying all the skins off the ah anyways. its a game people.. your turning the f2p into more money then you would have spent on the sub fees

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  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923
    Originally posted by WellzyC

     

    Going to Lions arch, or Stormwind, Freeport... er what ever city is in your game, and being able to sit down at a table with guildies or with other players on the server and play some Hold'em with your gold would be fucking AWESOME..

     

    I would never quit an MMO that had a card room in their major city with public or private tables

    Yeah seeing this where you can gamble your in game money would be freaking awesome :), you could become rich just by gambling 

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • CharlizdCharlizd Member UncommonPosts: 923
    Originally posted by dorksmetal
    if you spend realy money on gems you are doing it wrong.. make gold > gems > keys, i spent 30 gold into gems but ended up buying all the skins off the ah anyways. its a game people.. your turning the f2p into more money then you would have spent on the sub fees

    This is why you are seeing most games head down the F2P market, because silly people spend real money to get all the uber leet stuff when they want it, i'm starting to worry for MMO's because it is not so much of an adventure game anymore it is turning out to be a Fashion parade in a fantasy world. 

    Andrew "Charlizd" Phippen | Lead World Builder | The Saga of Lucimia MMORPG
  • lotapartylotaparty Member Posts: 514
    Originally posted by ellobo29

    i dont care if you spent 10$ or 100$ or 1 million dollars. You are not owed anything in the black lion chest concerning holloween. Its pure luck.

    Whats that?!?! you dont like it?

    THEN DONT DO IT.

    Its like crying at the casino because you didnt win the big jackpot.... [mod edit]

    Like that one forum post on here.. "OMG guys this black lion chest holloween event sucks dont do it! I just spent 100 dollars in gems and didnt get a single holloween skin..." But that was 48 hours ago....and it wasnt even in the game yet.....

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by lotaparty
     

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

    yet nothing in the CS gives any sort of advantage that others can't get ingame and anything in the cash shop can be bought with ingame gold

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite Member Posts: 879
    Never bought a key, and never will. Default contents of the boxes are not worth the money. As far as looking for rare contents go, I don't find any merit in buying an "opportunity". Good thing for ANet though, it seems there's a lot of people who are willing to take a risk (but those who whine about their bad luck, I find beyond stupid). So far the only money ANet has taken from me is the initial purchase lol.
  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    Oh to the people doing the "think of the Children" argument. If they are spending Daddys Dollars on it then maybe when they lose everything they will learn that gambling is a bad idea. and for those who are using the Ingame currency thing for it, Same deal. If anything Gambling in games is good. Makes you realize just how much you can lose by doing it.

    Because i can.
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  • ellobo29ellobo29 Member UncommonPosts: 423

    http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/char_tool/CT_imageGenerator.php?pseudo=Centurion Mikal&lang=EN&code=&code=TSwtLDUsLSw2LC0sMjksOSwyMiwyMywyNCwtLDEwMiwzNiw4MSw4NCw4OQ==

  • ellobo29ellobo29 Member UncommonPosts: 423
    Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
    Originally posted by ellobo29

    i dont care if you spent 10$ or 100$ or 1 million dollars. You are not owed anything in the black lion chest concerning holloween. Its pure luck.

    Whats that?!?! you dont like it?

    THEN DONT DO IT.

    Its like crying at the casino because you didnt win the big jackpot....[mod edit]

    Like that one forum post on here.. "OMG guys this black lion chest holloween event sucks dont do it! I just spent 100 dollars in gems and didnt get a single holloween skin..." But that was 48 hours ago....and it wasnt even in the game yet.....

    People who bought keys to support Arenanet  because they had enough respect and faifth in Arenanet to assume that they would  provide reasonable droprates, have every right to feel betrayed. 

    WOW.... you sound so delusional to me right now.....

    http://medias.luna-atra.fr/gw2/char_tool/CT_imageGenerator.php?pseudo=Centurion Mikal&lang=EN&code=&code=TSwtLDUsLSw2LC0sMjksOSwyMiwyMywyNCwtLDEwMiwzNiw4MSw4NCw4OQ==

  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    Gambling is Gambling you cannot complain just because you lost.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by lotaparty
     

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

    yet nothing in the CS gives any sort of advantage that others can't get ingame and anything in the cash shop can be bought with ingame gold

    What if your friend has a ton of gold and buys gems with it and you instead pay for gems to get what they spent time working for? Its an advantage. Now is that an acceptable advantage? Thats where it comes into play. For me, I don't care too much about how it is in this game. It does have more of an effect in this game then most due to the way the game works but its not enough for me to call it a serious advantage (games that give cash shop only benefits unobtainable in game are seriously bad with this).

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Purutzil
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by lotaparty
     

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

    yet nothing in the CS gives any sort of advantage that others can't get ingame and anything in the cash shop can be bought with ingame gold

    What if your friend has a ton of gold and buys gems with it and you instead pay for gems to get what they spent time working for? Its an advantage. Now is that an acceptable advantage? Thats where it comes into play. For me, I don't care too much about how it is in this game. It does have more of an effect in this game then most due to the way the game works but its not enough for me to call it a serious advantage (games that give cash shop only benefits unobtainable in game are seriously bad with this).

    what's the advantage? in this game you can easily get the best(stat) gear and weapons.. so what's the advantage you are talking about?  this game it's actually less of an advantage than most games if you could call it an advantage at all

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775
    Originally posted by Purutzil
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by lotaparty
     

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

    yet nothing in the CS gives any sort of advantage that others can't get ingame and anything in the cash shop can be bought with ingame gold

    What if your friend has a ton of gold and buys gems with it and you instead pay for gems to get what they spent time working for? Its an advantage. Now is that an acceptable advantage? Thats where it comes into play. For me, I don't care too much about how it is in this game. It does have more of an effect in this game then most due to the way the game works but its not enough for me to call it a serious advantage (games that give cash shop only benefits unobtainable in game are seriously bad with this).

    Dear Jeebus... 

     

    I'm not even sure I understand this complaint. Your friend has more rl money than you because he got gems with gold while you had to pay cash so GW2 is causing a rl advantage? wtf... I'm so confused oO. 

     

    I have more fluff than you so I'm going to pwn you at PvP and steal all your loots in PvE! Thats an unfair advantage! 

     

    I give up lol... could you break it down to exactly what you consider to be an advantage here please? Are you saying the ammount of cosmetic fluff is giving an advantage?

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite Member Posts: 879
    Originally posted by Purutzil
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by lotaparty
     

    i count cash shop within guild wars 2 as unfair advantage . i would rather play games that ask for monthly subscriptions but donot give any unfair advantage to players who spend money in cash shop

    yet nothing in the CS gives any sort of advantage that others can't get ingame and anything in the cash shop can be bought with ingame gold

    What if your friend has a ton of gold and buys gems with it and you instead pay for gems to get what they spent time working for? Its an advantage. Now is that an acceptable advantage? Thats where it comes into play. For me, I don't care too much about how it is in this game. It does have more of an effect in this game then most due to the way the game works but its not enough for me to call it a serious advantage (games that give cash shop only benefits unobtainable in game are seriously bad with this).

    People who think it's any form of advantage are insecure of themselves.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Funny how the community devolved into actually defending gold sellers and cash shops, just because it's "official" and in our FOTM game.

     

    Name me one subscription based mmorpg that these shenanigans would not only cause an uproar, but the actual opposite would happen. No, forget that. Name me one F2P game that this kind of manipulation would fly with the community and people wouldn't quit en masse.

     

    I guess I agree with you OP. We get the games we deserve, the clones, the money pinchers, the fast food content providers. GW2 is the new WoW, so expect plenty of immitators of this money grabbing model.

  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904

    Originally posted by ellobo29
    I personaly LOVE casinos and gambling in mmos. (hate gambleiing in RL thou).

    Lol that's classic. your computer is basically a slot machine in this case.

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  • TyserieTyserie Member UncommonPosts: 155
    Originally posted by WellzyC

     

    Going to Lions arch, or Stormwind, Freeport... er what ever city is in your game, and being able to sit down at a table with guildies or with other players on the server and play some Hold'em with your gold would be fucking AWESOME..

     

    I would never quit an MMO that had a card room in their major city with public or private tables

    There are playing rooms in Fallen Earth.

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