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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • brett7018brett7018 Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Originally posted by eyelolled

    First off, you need to realize some things.

    GW2 doesn't have FFA OWPvP with full loot and permadeath so it's not hardcore enough for all us internet gangstas.  It's obviously a fail game.

    GW2 isn't a sandbox, so it's way too themepark for all us dedicated sandboxers. It's obviously a fail game.

    GW2 is just another fantasy themed mmorpg, which is so unrealistic compared to my ultramodern fantasy setting. Obviously a fail game.

    GW2 doesn't have mounts, and I like being mounted. Obviously a ....    wait that didn't sound right.

    GW2 is F2P and I like the feeling that someone's hand is in my pocket at least once a month.   Obviously a ....     wait, that didn't sound right either.

    GW2 has no raids, and raids are how us elitists get our elitist gear, and with no elitist gear, than how can we be elitist and that means I don't exist, and if I don't exist than obviously GW2 is a fail game.

     

    /end of sarcstic rant

    (oh and btw, I do realize it's B2P, it was intentional)

     

    EDIT: It was not my intent to offend anybody that may hold true to any of the descriptions I provided. This post was made with a healthy dose of parody

    Love it!  Pretty much sums it up right here :)  

    God forbid people should actually just enjoy playing a game!  

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  • NacarioNacario Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Originally posted by Torgrim

    GW2 is a AAA product right?

    There is plenty of content for everyone?

    You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

    You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

    Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

    Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

    Why is that?

    GW2 is a AAA product, they did a great job. At the same time, just because something is great doesnt mean it appeals to everyone. It's the same in real life. Each MMO has their own set of systems that makes a crowd stay.

     

    Because some people dont like:

    That the world is divided into several zones with portals between. The world feels disconnected.

    It has elements to support longveity, but it lacks MMO elements, i.e. inspect, duels.

    No world PvP

    The mist and the world is seperated, gear cant be brought over.

    Lack of risk concerning death. You die, you get up. Same thing in WvW.

    Need GvG, running SPvP gets tiresome.

    Lack of community feel - elements distinguishing direct teamwork in activities.

     

    Personally? Im just more into a true open non instanced world with possibilities of WPvP.

    The reason why you dont understand this could be because you havent tried various MMO styles, i.e. 10 years back in time till this day.

  • gordiflugordiflu Member UncommonPosts: 757
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    I have seen (and I bet you also have) many GW2 fanbois bashing other games even before GW2 was on Beta. The ravid fanboism of all the zealot GW2 fanbois created this reaction. I have even seen some *censored* log onto other games I was playing just to go on Global and let us know that our present game would be dead as soon as GW2 is out. GW2 was going to kill WoW, revolution the genre and be close to the second coming of the Mesiah.

    When exploiters, bots, bugs and gold farmers appeared, like they do in any other game (cos in the end GW2 is just another game, a good one but just another game), what reaction were you expecting?

    No, I am not playing this game (no hate either, just saying). One of the reasons for doing so is the out of proportion very fanboic fanboism of the most fanboic fanbois I have ever seen. I remember when I posted exactly that in some thread, prior to release. I got flamed to the bones, and a temporary ban. All the fanbois attacked like angry hienas.

    So, if the OP can't understand all the bashing, well, he just needs to check all the fanbois. Action and reaction.

  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    You hit me i hit you back, forums are like this.
    You hate me i hate you
    You talk trash i talk trash
    You spit me i spit you back

    Trolls / flame bait make sure this will never end and it only gets worse.

    For me GW2 beats any other mmo i have ever played, and that is whats importand for me no matter what people are trying to say.

    Trying to prove them wrong is what they want so they can troll more.
    Stop caring for those trolls and flamebait posts.

    Haters gonne hate.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by gordiflu
     

    I have seen (and I bet you also have) many GW2 fanbois bashing other games even before GW2 was on Beta. The ravid fanboism of all the zealot GW2 fanbois created this reaction. I have even seen some *censored* log onto other games I was playing just to go on Global and let us know that our present game would be dead as soon as GW2 is out. GW2 was going to kill WoW, revolution the genre and be close to the second coming of the Mesiah.

    When exploiters, bots, bugs and gold farmers appeared, like they do in any other game (cos in the end GW2 is just another game, a good one but just another game), what reaction were you expecting?

    No, I am not playing this game (no hate either, just saying). One of the reasons for doing so is the out of proportion very fanboic fanboism of the most fanboic fanbois I have ever seen. I remember when I posted exactly that in some thread, prior to release. I got flamed to the bones, and a temporary ban. All the fanbois attacked like angry hienas.

    So, if the OP can't understand all the bashing, well, he just needs to check all the fanbois. Action and reaction.

    yes this happened and people should of reported them and those people should of gotten a temp ban or whatever.. but basically you are saying it's ok because it's just payback from a select couple of people not to mention which is also against the forums posting rules.. still love all the labeling, stereotyping and prejudice that goes on on these forums.. sad really

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • PapadamPapadam Member Posts: 2,102
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    Whats your point? Every MMOs released gets bashed here, just look at AoC or Swtor who were bashed alot more then GW2. There are people who bash LotrO even if they havent played it for 5 years...

    GW2 fans treating it like its the Jesus of gaming just makes people want to bash it some more. 

    If WoW = The Beatles
    and WAR = Led Zeppelin
    Then LotrO = Pink Floyd

  • gordiflugordiflu Member UncommonPosts: 757
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by gordiflu
     

    I have seen (and I bet you also have) many GW2 fanbois bashing other games even before GW2 was on Beta. The ravid fanboism of all the zealot GW2 fanbois created this reaction. I have even seen some *censored* log onto other games I was playing just to go on Global and let us know that our present game would be dead as soon as GW2 is out. GW2 was going to kill WoW, revolution the genre and be close to the second coming of the Mesiah.

    When exploiters, bots, bugs and gold farmers appeared, like they do in any other game (cos in the end GW2 is just another game, a good one but just another game), what reaction were you expecting?

    No, I am not playing this game (no hate either, just saying). One of the reasons for doing so is the out of proportion very fanboic fanboism of the most fanboic fanbois I have ever seen. I remember when I posted exactly that in some thread, prior to release. I got flamed to the bones, and a temporary ban. All the fanbois attacked like angry hienas.

    So, if the OP can't understand all the bashing, well, he just needs to check all the fanbois. Action and reaction.

    yes this happened and people should of reported them and those people should of gotten a temp ban or whatever.. but basically you are saying it's ok because it's just payback from a select couple of people not to mention which is also against the forums posting rules.. still love all the labeling, stereotyping and prejudice that goes on on these forums.. sad really

    No, I am not saying it is OK.

    I am only saying that it is not surprising, neither hard to understand.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by gordiflu
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by gordiflu
     

    I have seen (and I bet you also have) many GW2 fanbois bashing other games even before GW2 was on Beta. The ravid fanboism of all the zealot GW2 fanbois created this reaction. I have even seen some *censored* log onto other games I was playing just to go on Global and let us know that our present game would be dead as soon as GW2 is out. GW2 was going to kill WoW, revolution the genre and be close to the second coming of the Mesiah.

    When exploiters, bots, bugs and gold farmers appeared, like they do in any other game (cos in the end GW2 is just another game, a good one but just another game), what reaction were you expecting?

    No, I am not playing this game (no hate either, just saying). One of the reasons for doing so is the out of proportion very fanboic fanboism of the most fanboic fanbois I have ever seen. I remember when I posted exactly that in some thread, prior to release. I got flamed to the bones, and a temporary ban. All the fanbois attacked like angry hienas.

    So, if the OP can't understand all the bashing, well, he just needs to check all the fanbois. Action and reaction.

    yes this happened and people should of reported them and those people should of gotten a temp ban or whatever.. but basically you are saying it's ok because it's just payback from a select couple of people not to mention which is also against the forums posting rules.. still love all the labeling, stereotyping and prejudice that goes on on these forums.. sad really

    No, I am not saying it is OK.

    I am only saying that it is not surprising, neither hard to understand.

    in that I will agree

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by bcbully
     

    My point is that this was not the point of you thread on Aug. 18th  "Raiding in GW2 **Videos**" You even went as far to compare "raiding" in GW2 to raiding in WoW. Here is your OP of that thread. 

     

    Aero - 

    "Since this has been such a hot topic just wanted to give an example of a raid sample in GW2. This is not a max level boss this is around level 60 stuff. AGAIN not level 80 stuff here only 50-60 range stuff

    Boss fight "The Shatterer"

    Guild Wars 2 Raid [HD]

    Another video of same fight with better commentary

    videos do NOT have proper difficulty scaling they are old demo videos. 

    personally for me I never was a raider type so being able to jump into massive battles without worring about specific meet up times and hoping you get everyone to show up is a huge plus for me. I enjoyed the open world boss types in Rift and this is a  step forward from that so anyways.. enjoy

    here's 2 videos showing low level stuff with proper scaling to show difficulty in fights a little better

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGbY8s_r6NE#t=5m42s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIvyUUFNiH8

    and for comparison a Cata raid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2epGABRsE  in case anyone needed a reminder

    another wow raid since the one I posted above wasn't "good" enough  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc0kfS8-KB0"

     

     This thread was misleading and contributed to the hype and the backlash  we are talking about here. Don't move the goal post, own it and move one.  This is my last post on this topic concerning you. 

    again read the rest of the thread it's all discussed in there but you can go on and continue your crusade or whatever it is.. and again meta events are open world raids just as they were in older MMOs many years ago

    Sorry one more post so that the point of our conversation is not lost. Today you said that "GW2 - no raids... all that was known for a very long time.. if that's what upset people that's really their own fault.."

    No, post like your post on Aug 18th contributed to the hype and mislead. I agree with the first part of your post today GW2 does not have raids. The post on the 8-18 was very different. 

     

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    Whats your point? Every MMOs released gets bashed here, just look at AoC or Swtor who were bashed alot more then GW2. There are people who bash LotrO even if they havent played it for 5 years...

     

    if you can't see the point then i dunno.. it's not something that should happen in any game GW2, swtor, aoc, lotro, any of them.. people playing that have concerns or people interested that have concerns makes sense to voice and talk about them.. but how would it make any sense other than to troll and bait for me to sit in a uncharted 3 forums and bash that game to hell when i don't even have a ps3

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by bcbully
     

    Sorry one more post so that the point of our conversation is not lost. Today you said that "GW2 - no raids... all that was known for a very long time.. if that's what upset people that's really their own fault.."

    No, post like your post on Aug 18th contributed to the hype and mislead. I agree with the first part of your post today GW2 does not have raids. The post on the 8-18 was very different. 

     

    lol you are reaching and clinging onto every word .. you can look through the thread you posted it explains the stance on open world raids vs instanced raids.. BUT according to this forum open world raids don't exist so i use the term raids now in ways people understand which would be instanced 10+ man dungeons which GW2 does not have and always was known to not have.. GW2 does have open world raid events in the form of several meta events which means it does have raids... but please continue it's most amusing

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by Papadam

    people want to bash it some more. 

    The orange number twos just make me so ANGRY!

    I think they'd just like their forum back.  :shrug:

    You are right; it's not terribly different from what other games have suffered post-release.  Pretty standard fare on this site, really.  Doesn't mean that multiple wrongs make a right.

    Patience.  Sorry mods, it can't last forever.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • BetaguyBetaguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,629
    Originally posted by Torgrim

    GW2 is a AAA product right?

    There is plenty of content for everyone?

    You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

    You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

    Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

    Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

    Why is that?

     I don't bash it, I simply don't like it and keep it straight to the point.

    "The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"

  • PapadamPapadam Member Posts: 2,102
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    Whats your point? Every MMOs released gets bashed here, just look at AoC or Swtor who were bashed alot more then GW2. There are people who bash LotrO even if they havent played it for 5 years...

     

    if you can't see the point then i dunno.. it's not something that should happen in any game GW2, swtor, aoc, lotro, any of them.. people playing that have concerns or people interested that have concerns makes sense to voice and talk about them.. but how would it make any sense other than to troll and bait for me to sit in a uncharted 3 forums and bash that game to hell when i don't even have a ps3

    I thought this thread was about how unfairly GW2 is being bashed when its such a great game.

    Where is all this baseless bashing and spamming? And why are the GW2 fans so sensitive to any critizism?

     

    If WoW = The Beatles
    and WAR = Led Zeppelin
    Then LotrO = Pink Floyd

  • MeridionMeridion Member UncommonPosts: 1,495
    Originally posted by Torgrim

    GW2 is a AAA product right?

    There is plenty of content for everyone?

    You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

    You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

    Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

    Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

    Why is that?

    Because 

    a) I don't give a damn about sub fees, they could be 100 bucks per month and I'd shrug if the game was any good, so I don't judge the game any differently. I'm still subbed to EvE and have not played for 10 months now, just to support a good game I guess.

    b) It does not force anyone to do anything, which makes everything, everywhere and everytime utterly expendable. For me, theres a very low feeling of achievement most of the time. In fact, in the majority of cases I just rely on some zerg-ball zergballing something down and battlerezzing anyone who's stupid enough to die from splash damage.

    It's just not why I play MMORPGs... not for buy to play, not for free...

    M

  • zanebergeronzanebergeron Member UncommonPosts: 80

    Sorry to say that no game is perfect in the eyes of all, meaning that what I like and what everyone else likes is different.

    I do like GW2 and am having fun playing it, is it perfect? No...there are things that I miss from other games.

    I play it for what it is, not what it isn't.  MMOs are in a constant state of change, people give their feedback and hopefully the company listens.  On that note....careful what you ask for in games, majority rules.  If too many people complain "hey I am a casual player who doesn't have time for grinding for X item or such" it can ruin a game for many. We have seen this happen many times over the years.

    CURRENTLY PLAYING |GW2|
    PLAYED UO:SWG:EQ2:GW:WoW:CoH:Lotro:AoC:Vanguard:Horizons:RIFT:swtor:Shadowbane and I'm sure a few others
    WATCHING:EQ Next : Wildstar:Archage :WoD
    WISHING FOR: A UO Remake
    HAPPILY PLAYING ONLINE SINCE 97.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Papadam

    if you can't see the point then i dunno.. it's not something that should happen in any game GW2, swtor, aoc, lotro, any of them.. people playing that have concerns or people interested that have concerns makes sense to voice and talk about them.. but how would it make any sense other than to troll and bait for me to sit in a uncharted 3 forums and bash that game to hell when i don't even have a ps3

    I thought this thread was about how unfairly GW2 is being bashed when its such a great game.

    Where is all this baseless bashing and spamming? And why are the GW2 fans so sensitive to any critizism?

     

    if you don't hang around the forums alot much is deleted by the mods so you don't really understand how prevelant it is unless you are here often.. i would be glad to post numerous names and threads for you but that's just in bad taste

     

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • zanebergeronzanebergeron Member UncommonPosts: 80
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Papadam

    OK so what weve learned from this thread is that there are no bad things about GW2 and anyone who is saying anything negative is either payed or are just having "themepark burnout".

     

    And GW2 players who bash other games have all the right to do so.

    guess you haven't read or understood much of anything.. but good to know:)

    Maybe hyperbole but still close enough to the truth. 

    or maybe that is just the impression outsiders like me get when reading the posts of people like you. (and the OP)

    so you can tell me there is no difference between someone bashing a game they don't play have gotten a refund from or have no interest in? yet continue to come here to bash the game... against people who do play have concerns about aspects of the game and want to discuss the issues they have.

    Whats your point? Every MMOs released gets bashed here, just look at AoC or Swtor who were bashed alot more then GW2. There are people who bash LotrO even if they havent played it for 5 years...

     

    if you can't see the point then i dunno.. it's not something that should happen in any game GW2, swtor, aoc, lotro, any of them.. people playing that have concerns or people interested that have concerns makes sense to voice and talk about them.. but how would it make any sense other than to troll and bait for me to sit in a uncharted 3 forums and bash that game to hell when i don't even have a ps3

    I thought this thread was about how unfairly GW2 is being bashed when its such a great game.

    Where is all this baseless bashing and spamming? And why are the GW2 fans so sensitive to any critizism?

    Not all fans of something are sensitive.  Am I a fan of GW2 : yes. Is it the most perfect game ever: no.  I think it is how people reply and quote on here that causes all the drama.

     

     

     

    CURRENTLY PLAYING |GW2|
    PLAYED UO:SWG:EQ2:GW:WoW:CoH:Lotro:AoC:Vanguard:Horizons:RIFT:swtor:Shadowbane and I'm sure a few others
    WATCHING:EQ Next : Wildstar:Archage :WoD
    WISHING FOR: A UO Remake
    HAPPILY PLAYING ONLINE SINCE 97.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by zanebergeron

    I thought this thread was about how unfairly GW2 is being bashed when its such a great game.

    Where is all this baseless bashing and spamming? And why are the GW2 fans so sensitive to any critizism?

    Not all fans of something are sensitive.  Am I a fan of GW2 : yes. Is it the most perfect game ever: no.  I think it is how people reply and quote on here that causes all the drama.

     

     

    can agree here no one i can think of thinks GW2 is perfect and does'nt have a very good number of glaring issues.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by grimal
    It's called hype backlash.  The bigger the hype, the harder the fall.

    after 3 BWEs and hundreds of youtube videos what all was really hidden as far as core gameplay? what the game was all about was known for quite sometime.. no raids no stat progressive gear grind.. all that was known for a very long time.. if that's what upset people that's really their own fault..

    It actually isn't completely, it is people like you's fault as well because you hyped this game to death so much before release. It's about time you took responsibilty for what you write, you can't say: 'you knew all this before you got involved, it's your own fault', when you've been actively trying to sell this game as the second coming since you've been posting here.

     

     

    Pure early morning comedy.

     

    Look at the orange statement.  I'm going to say no, Aero you had a lot to do with hyping and misleading, and you should own it like Omnifish said. 

     

    This is Aero's thread Aug. 18th, one week before launch. Titled "Raiding in GW2 **Video**

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/360987/page/1

    Aero - "Since this has been such a hot topic just wanted to give an example of a raid sample in GW2."

     

    Statments like this is were a lot of the disappointment and backlash comes from. 

    no instanced raids.. should be better for you?.. but yes meta events are in fact raids.. but again like many things such as what's a sandbox? you will get 100 differn't opinions on what defines that and what's a MMORPG? that seems to be a hot topic as well

    GW2 has raids? I remember reading many posts by fans exclaiming this game has no raids yada yada yada.

     

    Are they now caliing these meta events raids to try and appeal to raiders?

     

    Not the first time I have seen GW2 fans trying to change the meaning of a mmo term.

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by TalulaRose
    I have seen GW2 fans

    Perhaps it's labeling them as a single unit that makes them difficult to understand.

    The (pardon me) Haters surely seem to find it objectionable.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by TalulaRose

    no instanced raids.. should be better for you?.. but yes meta events are in fact raids.. but again like many things such as what's a sandbox? you will get 100 differn't opinions on what defines that and what's a MMORPG? that seems to be a hot topic as well

    GW2 has raids? I remember reading many posts by fans exclaiming this game has no raids yada yada yada.

     

    Are they now caliing these meta events raids to try and appeal to raiders?

     

    Not the first time I have seen GW2 fans trying to change the meaning of a mmo term.

    was discussed already numerous times but GW2 has raids in the same sense as earlier MMOs had open world raids.. the coined instanced raid became well known when instanced dungeon raiding became big in wow then the term raid became synonymous with 10+man dungeon..  this is how I always viewed a raid  "A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which a very large number of people (larger than the normal team size set by the game) attempt to defeat a boss monster."  In the same sense i would consider Rifts invasion bosses open world raids as well.. but since wow apparently is the end all for MMO terms I will use the terms set by wow to discuss things in these games as it makes it easier for people to understand.

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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by TalulaRose

    no instanced raids.. should be better for you?.. but yes meta events are in fact raids.. but again like many things such as what's a sandbox? you will get 100 differn't opinions on what defines that and what's a MMORPG? that seems to be a hot topic as well

    GW2 has raids? I remember reading many posts by fans exclaiming this game has no raids yada yada yada.

     

    Are they now caliing these meta events raids to try and appeal to raiders?

     

    Not the first time I have seen GW2 fans trying to change the meaning of a mmo term.

    was discussed already numerous times but GW2 has raids in the same sense as earlier MMOs had open world raids.. the coined instanced raid became well known when instanced dungeon raiding became big in wow then the term raid became synonymous with 10+man dungeon..  this is how I always viewed a raid  "A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which a very large number of people (larger than the normal team size set by the game) attempt to defeat a boss monster."  In the same sense i would consider Rifts invasion bosses open world raids as well

    I remember those open world raids. Bosses were on a timer and everyone raced to kill them when they popped.

     

    Not the case here. These are meta events based on the outcome of dynamic events. I know this because GW2 fans were in every forum telling everyone about these events......and they were never referred to as raids. They were always referred to as the almighty innovative events.

     

    You can try and make them sound like raids as we all know them (instanced or open world) but I will know themby the terms the fans have been using for months.(events) And according to the fans, events were different and GW2 has no raids.

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