Here we can see that GW2 topped even the Blade and Soul ! If you dont know They sold 5million copies of BnS and the game is more popular in Korea, than WoW.
Ooo a game released worldwide topped in sales (by a little margin, btw) a title that is live only in one country! What a surprise!
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Hey, Blade and soul sold 5million in one country ! And World of WarCraft just 10 in the whole world. Do you understand what i want to say ?
And Then I wanna say that GW2 is better than SWTOR , TSW and RIFT as commercial project. So it's one of the best projects (or even the best) during last years. Isnt it amazing ?
When BnS will come to the West - we'll see its popularity. But right now ... ))
LOL, just no. If the sold even more than 3 million, they'd have announced it. Do you honestly think this kind off positive news, specialy sice it blew MOP's sales away, would be kept in the dark? Now over 5 million?
The Sells are likely from all the banned accounts, Cheaters, and Bots, plus it doesn't count all those in overstock that other companies have bought and not sold right?
Originally posted by MMOwanderer LOL, just no. If the sold even more than 3 million, they'd have announced it. Do you honestly think this kind off positive news, specialy sice it blew MOP's sales away, would be kept in the dark? Now over 5 million?
No )) You really dont know NCSoft ) All numbers about sales they announce after 100 Days after Launching.
Originally posted by MMOwanderer LOL, just no. If the sold even more than 3 million, they'd have announced it. Do you honestly think this kind off positive news, specialy sice it blew MOP's sales away, would be kept in the dark? Now over 5 million?
Yeah the 5 million is a figure some over excited fan has pull out of his backside in this thread, no proof or source to even back up his claim. Nope, using BnS is not proof or a source lol, ArenaNet would be singing all over the place if that 5 million figure pulled out of some fans backside was remotely true.
Originally posted by MMOwanderer LOL, just no. If the sold even more than 3 million, they'd have announced it. Do you honestly think this kind off positive news, specialy sice it blew MOP's sales away, would be kept in the dark? Now over 5 million?
No )) You really dont know NCSoft ) All numbers about sales they announce after 100 Days after Launching.
Well, i guess we'll have to wait then. Also, looking at the amount of serves, they launched with around 22 for both US and EU at close to 2 million players. Added around 3 more for each. Don't you think that if the game had more than 5 million players at some point, they'd hav atleast 30/40 servers for both US and EU? Unless their servers could handle gigantic tons of people, in which case, they would need so many to begin with. Or maybe, alot, and i mean alot, of peopl multi boxed.
Games are probably cheaper in Korea, so comparing the two like this is very far from accurate. There's also the source of sales to think about. For example, boxed copies are generally less profitable than digital ones and copies bought from the publisher are more profitable than the ones bought from 3rd party retailers. Koreans could shop in a different way from us Westerners, possibly (although unlikely) altering the chart a lot.
The two markets are very different. Still, I can only smirk at the people who tried to use these numbers to bash GW2. It's obviously doing very well. Beyond that, we can't say for sure.
B&S looks alright, too, but beyond the combat, I don't see the appeal. At least its art isn't as ugly as TERA's.
GW2 sales are 45.841M KRW. 1 KRW = 0.000920048 USD
About 42M USD, which makes 700k units of GW2 at 60USD per unit.
Youre not so clever as you think ) Blade and soul' s Profit is about 3,5 million dollars. So, If you really think there are 32milliard of KRW, we can say, that NCsoft spend 30million dollars on the project. Really, do you think it's true ? It isnt, couse i read that BnS costs about 100 million dollars. So... Hope you understand me )
Dont tell me what I must do. Really, even with bad english i can invite you to not so good places ... Really, not so good
Russian forums are teh bad places?
Sorry for being hostile but you are completely wrong and just do not listen when people point you out your errors...
Simly I try to hear you, But you didn't ry to hear me ) May be It's hard - I can just read, can't speak ) But I don't think my English is soo bad that you even can't understand what i want to say ! ))
If GW2 sold 5M units, the sales of GW2 alone would be 300M. Which is double of reported number.
Go trolling on your russian forums please.
Take a chill pill. Your math is even more flawed than his. NCSoft does not get $60 for every unit sold. They get far and far less. Even from digital sales on their website do they not get the full amount.
Now from the amount shown in the graph it is impossible to tell how much they sold, because it will also include gem sales.
Originally posted by ConnmacartTake a chill pill. Your math is even more flawed than his. NCSoft does not get $60 for every unit sold. They get far and far less. Even from digital sales on their website do they not get the full amount. Now from the amount shown in the graph it is impossible to tell how much they sold, because it will also include gem sales.
Those are sales(revenue), not profits.
I was never arguing actual sales figure, the point is that even at best guess, they did not sell anything near OP is claiming.
Take a chill pill. Your math is even more flawed than his. NCSoft does not get $60 for every unit sold. They get far and far less. Even from digital sales on their website do they not get the full amount.
Now from the amount shown in the graph it is impossible to tell how much they sold, because it will also include gem sales.
Those are sales(revenue), not profits.
I was never arguing actual sales figure, the point is that even at best guess, they did not sell anything near OP is claiming.
Irrelevant that it is revenue not profits as you don't list another companies revenue as your own. So it's still not $60.
Take a chill pill. Your math is even more flawed than his. NCSoft does not get $60 for every unit sold. They get far and far less. Even from digital sales on their website do they not get the full amount.
Now from the amount shown in the graph it is impossible to tell how much they sold, because it will also include gem sales.
Those are sales(revenue), not profits.
I was never arguing actual sales figure, the point is that even at best guess, they did not sell anything near OP is claiming.
For men who don't know (I really don't know why you dont) BnS is ptp game with cash shop. For more information read Steparu or other interesting sites about eastern Games. MMO Culture, for example
Games are probably cheaper in Korea, so comparing the two like this is very far from accurate.
Most games in Korea. Even sub ones does not have client sale. Just pay sub without box. Subscription on the other hand can be more expensive than in USA and cost around 20$ per month.
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Originally posted by fenistil
Originally posted by Orange_Z
Here we can see that GW2 topped even the Blade and Soul ! If you dont know They sold 5million copies of BnS
Provide link to source that B&S sold 5 million game copies.
I can give you just Russian link ) If you can understand anything :
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Hey, Blade and soul sold 5million in one country ! And World of WarCraft just 10 in the whole world. Do you understand what i want to say ?
And Then I wanna say that GW2 is better than SWTOR , TSW and RIFT as commercial project. So it's one of the best projects (or even the best) during last years. Isnt it amazing ?
When BnS will come to the West - we'll see its popularity. But right now ... ))
Yes ) So, It's "The best commercial project during last years" . Really, 4,5million just as profit . Wow !
No )) You really dont know NCSoft ) All numbers about sales they announce after 100 Days after Launching.
Provide link to source that B&S sold 5 million game copies.
Yeah the 5 million is a figure some over excited fan has pull out of his backside in this thread, no proof or source to even back up his claim. Nope, using BnS is not proof or a source lol, ArenaNet would be singing all over the place if that 5 million figure pulled out of some fans backside was remotely true.
Well, i guess we'll have to wait then. Also, looking at the amount of serves, they launched with around 22 for both US and EU at close to 2 million players. Added around 3 more for each. Don't you think that if the game had more than 5 million players at some point, they'd hav atleast 30/40 servers for both US and EU? Unless their servers could handle gigantic tons of people, in which case, they would need so many to begin with. Or maybe, alot, and i mean alot, of peopl multi boxed.
BTW, how many weeks since GW2's launch?
I think OP cannot read the chart.
This is old news and discussed already.
GW2 sales are 45.841M KRW. 1 KRW = 0.000920048 USD
About 42M USD, which makes 700k units of GW2 at 60USD per unit.
Games are probably cheaper in Korea, so comparing the two like this is very far from accurate. There's also the source of sales to think about. For example, boxed copies are generally less profitable than digital ones and copies bought from the publisher are more profitable than the ones bought from 3rd party retailers. Koreans could shop in a different way from us Westerners, possibly (although unlikely) altering the chart a lot.
The two markets are very different. Still, I can only smirk at the people who tried to use these numbers to bash GW2. It's obviously doing very well. Beyond that, we can't say for sure.
B&S looks alright, too, but beyond the combat, I don't see the appeal. At least its art isn't as ugly as TERA's.
I can give you just Russian link ) If you can understand anything :
http://forum.blade-and-soul.ru/index.php/topic/4012-bns-100-days-overview/
Youre not so clever as you think ) Blade and soul' s Profit is about 3,5 million dollars. So, If you really think there are 32milliard of KRW, we can say, that NCsoft spend 30million dollars on the project. Really, do you think it's true ? It isnt, couse i read that BnS costs about 100 million dollars. So... Hope you understand me )
And you think you are cleaver by making up numbers and using flawed reasoning?
The chart numbers are clear, and you can deny them as much as you want but it won't change anything.
Can you read previous posts ?)) I didnt want to say something bad or unkind, just "Dont think you're the smartest on the Earth".
All Haters go to HELL !!! I found your *** link !
http://bns.plaync.com/letter/article/2395978
Simly I try to hear you, But you didn't ry to hear me ) May be It's hard - I can just read, can't speak ) But I don't think my English is soo bad that you even can't understand what i want to say ! ))
Take a chill pill. Your math is even more flawed than his. NCSoft does not get $60 for every unit sold. They get far and far less. Even from digital sales on their website do they not get the full amount.
Now from the amount shown in the graph it is impossible to tell how much they sold, because it will also include gem sales.
Those are sales(revenue), not profits.
I was never arguing actual sales figure, the point is that even at best guess, they did not sell anything near OP is claiming.
Irrelevant that it is revenue not profits as you don't list another companies revenue as your own. So it's still not $60.
And you were very much arguing.
For men who don't know (I really don't know why you dont) BnS is ptp game with cash shop. For more information read Steparu or other interesting sites about eastern Games. MMO Culture, for example
Most games in Korea. Even sub ones does not have client sale. Just pay sub without box. Subscription on the other hand can be more expensive than in USA and cost around 20$ per month.
That's why I wanted a link from you.
Blade & Soul does not have client sale. You get client for free and you just have to pay subsciption.
So they have not sold 4,5 mln copies. Because they are not selling copies. They had 4,5 millions of accounts created.
So your comparision is wrong from the start.