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No PVE?
Goldmank
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Kind of bummed about that. Aside from having the best PVP system second-to-none, it was the expansive PVE content that made the DAOC experience so phenomenal.
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I am happy there will be no PVE in this.. its means all the development time can be put into PVP..
We have enough PVE games out there already no need for anymore..
Just what I feel. It seems like when devs try to make a game that has PvE and RvR that the RvR gets watered down to try to make it appeal to PvE players. Plus high end PvE gear that is the best in the game becomes required in RvR which means players who don't like PvE are forced to raid, grind instances, etc. Mark had a great idea to make a completely RvR game so that he and his team can completely focus on making the best RvR possible without having to factor in how class abilities, realm abilities, etc. impact PvE.
If CU game had PvE, I would not be donating to the Kickstater because I would fully expect it to be another WAR, GW 2, or post-TOA DAOC. That it is an RvR game with no PvE created by one of the original guys who did DAOC is really the only reason I'm going to fund it.
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so this means you will be getting ganked by high level or people with better gear all the time and it will be a very long time before you can erk out enough to get on even foting with other people.
ya no ty i play games for fun not to wave around my e-pean
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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Mark has mention pvp down time activities such as crafting, housing and more.
You obviously haven't read any of the foundational principles.
That's a pretty skewed view, DAoC is 11 years old, hasn't had any new pve content for years and it's almost dead in general. This doesn't really provide a usable comparison to new games. In it's day pve in daoc was often more populated than rvr.
PvE is an abandoned idea in DAoC and people wonder why no-one plays it anymore? Clearly the pvp on it's own is enough to keep a healthy population?.....no....and people will be wondering the same thing when CU fails to retain subs and inevitably goes F2P.
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I actually agree - I enjoy PvE as it was in EQ (e.g., no groups of quest givers handing out boring quests, only to be shuttled to the next boring group of quest givers by following the glowing line). I enjoyed dungeon delving and camping for rare items.
But I'm also aware of development costs for something like that. And I think that focusing on one aspect of the game world in CU makes perfect sense because you can focus development costs on making RvR the best it can be.
Perhaps if the game takes off and does incredibly well, Mark and his team can work on either an expansion or second world or even another MMO based on the development in CU that will be more expansive and come out as a sequel to CU.
I may even subscribe to another MMO to get my PvE fix if there's ever another hardcore PvE MMO that comes out (e.q. EQ remade with today's tech).
You can still do your 10 hour gaming sessions as a crafter/builder if you like to do that sort of thing. Crafting/building in this game will be pretty extensive.
I really enjoyed the PVE in DAOC , shame they have decided to exclude it.. .. So they will also exclude and alienate a large portion of the market...
And it already has been posted , there are plnety of PVE and plenty of PVP games , but one of the things that made DAOC unique is it did both well imo ... And no game since has..
Well Darkness Falls is on my wish list first.:P
Yes and Mark has made this clear CU is not for the major market but a niche rvr game.
To make a game like DAOC today that would be competitive in the marketplace and satisfy Mark and his team would probably cost a lot more than could be funded by a kickstarter. If you have $50 mil to throw at the project and give Mark free license to make the game as he wants, then you would probably get PvE.
Let's hope CU takes off and is successful enough to fund development of a follow on title.
I realize that , and its a bad decision imo ..... doesnt make sense to aim low.
I don't think its a case of "aiming low". Its good business to know your audience and work toward goals that are realistically attainable. By keeping development and ongoing costs low, they figure they can have a profitable game with 30K subs. If they can acheive that goal, then they can start to worry about expanding the core game and audience.
While being ambitious and 'aiming high" is all well and good, more than a few projects have endured premature deaths due to being too ambitious. Focus on what you can deliver, not what you might be able to deliver.