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People should stop complaining about PvE...
MajiinX
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I just don't get all the complaining about having PvE content and PvE servers when this game has be marketed and promised as a PvP centric game. While yes it might only appeal to a niche audience it obviously appealed to enough people to generate almost 2.5 mil in crowd funding. CSE has promised a PvP focused game and they have an obligation to deliver on that, that is why myself and other people contributed to see this game funded. I have nothing against PvE myself in fact I do enjoy PvE content but I find that its best to have PvE and PvP segregated otherwise there is a constant balancing act between the two, if anybody played WoW they will know one of the biggest problems with PvP was the fact that some of the best in slot gear was acquired through PvE so players that didnt or couldn't raid were at a large disadvantage.
I really hope CU stays PvP focused with a minimum amount of PvE I would really hate to see the devs pressured into PvE because thats what the masses want. The demand for PvP is defiantly there and I believe this game can be very successful if CSE delivers on its promises and I'm quite excited to see what the future holds.
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As far as the topic, it is not about what the game developer will do, it is what the complainers want and they will whine incessantly. It is all about 'ME' you know.
Well, we have seen how developers have delivered on promises and often times they do back off on promises. It happens when the game develops and they realize that promised features are inconsistent with design.
This is a wait and see game.
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
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Don't worry.
There are two groups. One is a well-meaning lot who have suggested the use of specific and limited PvE mechanisms to encourage more RvR conflict to further concentrate the focus of the game. The other is comprised of a very small number of trolls whining about lack of PvE content, leveling and servers just to get under our skin. Don't confuse the two groups.
As for the latter group, pay them no mind. I am not saying they are not skillful, but I am saying their powers are impotent here.
I'm with Tig on this one.
There are 2-3 recent pve posters who are flat out trolls. They repeat their request or opinion even though it is like complaining rain is wet. Rain is wet and will always be wet ... but the trolls keep on complaining about it. It is a futile argument that is wasting everyone's time.
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Adding PVE would be a huge drain on the game both financially and development time. You would have to add huge amounts of content for leveling and end game that just don't have to be there for a PVP only game. The developers just don't have the resources to do both right so instead of doing both poorly like most companies do they are trying to focus on doing just one really well. I say it's about time someone was willing to stand up and do that.
On the same note I cringe every time I read about PVP in TESO because I think of all those TES systems that will have to be cut out or toned down because they are not "feasible" I.E. to expensive to accomplish because we are spending so much money on shoe horning PVP into the game because some marketing report said we have to have it in our MMO.
Last time I checked this was a public forum and people were allowed to share their opinions as long as they presented them in a fair manner. There is no reason adequately suggested as to why there couldn't be a separate PvE server.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Money. IT was posted.
Simply put. It takes money. Money & time they don't have.
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I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that PVE is the biggest shortcoming in MMOs. Let's be frank, PVE is appalling and I say this as a carebear. It's simply tedious going from one zone to the next leveling. Then at the end of all that, you go through the same dungeon again and again collecting your brownie points to get better gear. Then along come an expansion, guess what? You have to do it all again. I'd say down with PVE. It might be interesting for a while, but after you memorized the script and everything else, it's fricking tedious. If MMOs are to survive, PVP is the way forward.
People are unpredictable, they will surprise you with their stupidity and their cleverness. No more grinding mobs, man the walls build your siege engines and kill the b****** that fired an arrow in your general direction.
Last time I checked this was a public forum and people were allowed to share their opinions as long as they presented them in a fair manner. There is no reason adequately suggested as to why there couldn't be a separate PvE server.
As the guy above me said, they HAVE stated a reason they are not looking at doing PvE in this game and that reason is money. It seems completely futile to keep asking for something like a PvE server that is never going to happen at launch, and probably not at all. You're right, it is a public forum and I can't stop you from posting here. However, the entire point of this game is that it's ONLY RvR/PvP. There are tons of games out there that offer PvE or a mixture of PvP and PvE.I do apologize for using the word whining, poor choice of words on my part. I do agree with you there, me personally I prefer PvP and choose to play games that are focused on just that rather then play an MMO and complain about lack of PvP content.
My reason for the posting is that I see many people replying to other posts and complaining about the lack of PvE and as you stated No Pve is a foundational principle that has been made abundantly clear and I don't think people should be complaining about content that isnt even supposed to be part of the game.
This is Bizarro thread. Normally, it's the other way around -- a PVE game is released and you see a lot of whining and crying on the forums about the lack of PVP or poorly implemented PVP in a PVE centric game. Go figure!
I believe a game is what the devs want it to be. but I can't help but chuckle at the op. usually its the other way around, People crying about lack of PvP.
this is a RvR game, don't like it, play something else.
Lore is a different matter, you can have lore without raids and what have you. Look at eve.
Don't feed the trolls, indeed.
A thought occurs - by now it has been said a million times there will be no PVE. Asking why there is no PVE in CU is like asking on the WoW forums why the Jedi is not one of the playable classes. Anyone bringing up PVE at this point is most likely a troll, so report them. Even if their posts look civil, their intention is clearly to troll, which is bannable on these forums I hope.
Imo people who never backed this game really don't have a voice.The game will run along nicely with the people who backed it.