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POLL: For followers only. Will you now give TESO a shot?
azzamasin
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I'll add answers for those who hated the game in the 1st place but I really would like to see those of us who have been die hard fans of the MMO versions reaction to the Cross Platform Announcement. I am extremely upset and because of the console port it has become a deal breaker for me. I will no longer support, follow or hype something I deem irrevocably detrimental to a PC MMO. The genre I love above all else. This announcement really hurt me to the core. Hopefully ZOS will see the error of their ways and come out and scrap this plan but I know they will not. In the mean time I'll do my damdest to let the the company know this is a poor move and will backfire on them.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
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TESO didn't even make the final list for Gamespot's Best of Show FYI. Not that it matters but I think it gives a bit more proof to how the game is going to not as good as some of us expected.
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/gamespots-best-of-show-winners-for-e3-2013-6410330/
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
I don't understand how you were excited in the first place. There is absolutely no game play footage of ESO. Non. There are some crappy trailers that just look god awful in every aspect of MMORPG design. I have really never heard of, or seen anything concrete related to this game. All I've seen are some game developers talking about crap that they have no proof of and refuse to let anyone get a sneak peak.
Honestly, I was turned off by this game long before the announcement of transitioning to console. Judging by how bad this game looks and how little they are connecting with the gaming community, I don't blame them for going into console's. They are going to need every gamer they can get to play this 'soon to be fail'.
E3 in general was underwhelming imo. A lot of noise around consoles which don't interest me but not much else.
Concerning TESO the console port is bad news but I will probably try the game in case I am not busy with another MMO at release time.
Agree.
I was excited, really excited because of several innovative features.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Uhhh so poeple can not be excited in the first place because there is absolutely no game play footage, but based on that absolulety no game play footage you where tuned off by how bad the game looks?
I don't know about that, The Division looks extremely badass and I don't even like Consoles or FPS's.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/10/the-division-inside-the-tom-clancy-mmo-shooter
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
I'm definitely less likely to play PC games that are console ported, their interfaces are usually crap and all that.
In the singleplayer games this is not an issue because of the massive modding community - But modding to the extend thats possible in the singleplayer games would never be possible in the MMO, we'll have interface modding at most.
I may give TESO a shot if i happen to have some excess funds lying around, or if they bring out a trial, but I have absolutely no hype or expectations of it.
This is a pretty strong statement about a piece of digital entertainment.
What do you expect will happen to the game to the detriment of the PC implementation to make it suitable for consoles too? Will the Open World be different? The classless skill system?
Personally I will prefer to play on the console, I like laying back on a couch with a controller in hand looking at a big screen.
No biggie for me. Seeing as the last ES game was a console port and Oblivion felt like a console game I have no problem with ports (Maybe that's due to mods, who knows).
I know ESO is an MMO and has different mechanics to think about, but there is nothing stopping MMO's translating well to the new generation of consoles.
If I end up not liking the game I can assure you that it will have nothing to do with it being a cross-platform game.
My points stand true and just because you disagree doesn't make it right. I'll leave it at that because I no longer will defend the game.
On another note another underwhelming review came out: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/a-tale-of-two-worlds-archeage-and-the-elder-scrolls-online-6410289/
"It's unfair to judge a large-scale game meant to be played for hundreds of hours in the space of 40 minutes, of course. But even a massively multiplayer online role-playing game can reveal a lot in a short time. Is the basic combat enjoyable? Is the setting inviting? Is it fun to move about the world? The Elder Scrolls Online had a chance to make an impression this week, but it failed to do so. The demo felt old, uninspired, and clumsy, and most damningly, it was boring. So boring, in fact, that I struggle to find much to say about it and am not particularly inspired to know any more."
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Leave it how you want but the fact remains that TESO was or isn't an open world mmo.
Poor choice of words I suppose but what I meant to say was the game is not linear. I.e. I can explore and go my own path and find points of interest just like the single player games. potatoe/potato.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
I play Skyrim on Console and PC and they are just fine.
Looks nice but I am not a great shooter fan. Don't get me wrong but there really didn't change a lot in the shooter genre over the last years. You get better graphics and physiscs probably but in the end it's just another shooter with different skins.
MMOs would allow for much more innovation. There is so much which was not yet done or only the surface was scratched in MMOs. Unfortunately most MMOs do nothing to make any progress in the genre but just deliver the same old stuff.
For those saying "why worry about the console port, they get their own servers anyway, it has no influence on pc version". What are the reasons there will be seperate servers for pc and console players ? To allow a seperate PC and console UI ? Or is it more likely that PS+ and XBoxLive requirements are the reason ? And do you really think zenimax spends a lot of resources to make that different UI for PC and console ? And if you really have to make a cross platform MMO dividing the community due to different techologies (pc/console) is a good thing ?
Hmm, whatever, have to stop here or it will become a rant.
To be fair, they have Forza 5 on the top list. A racing game in it's 5th sequel that still does not have night racing or weather effects, it's just the same old all over again. Don't even get me started on crap like Bayonetta 2.
The Division is not a shooter. It's a Team based multi-player RPG in a post apocalyptic world with PvP.
You are entitled to your opinion OP.
however, consoles of the new gen are different from old gen.
firstly hard disk space is not an issue. Storage is cheaper and cheaper. Before it was a problem. So the size of the mmo won't change to fit a console.
However based on specs and performance it will affect how a mmo is scaled for a console. Due to the new gen consoles being relatively powerful, the mmo adapted for a console should be able to handle any mmo in the market with the right settings.
Also consoles are optimized as gaming machines and therefore can run things better compared to a pc of the same hardware, especially when porting means optimizing for a specific lvl of hardware rather than a general range.
So the only problem is if consoles affect how many pixels are on the screen, animations, characters etc to a pc version. I believe it wont since there alternatives to not just different settings but also configuration fir console users to load less info for example. This does not affect pc users.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
In other words its a themepark for casuals and dumb down version for consoles.
Its lightyears away from solo Elder Scroll like morrowind.
Totally not interested in this game, while im a huge fan of solo TES series.
Just like WOW and other themepark mmo's, have you actually played the game?
It has quests hubs that go from level to level, i can log in and go anywhere in the world like i could in Vanguard or EQ.
It's a linear themepark mmo.
MMORPS - IMO... It has shooter elements and role playing elements...
Yeah, I'm not sure that 8-core CPU and 7850 GPU can handle an MMO. Weak consoles will ruin everything!
A game that's basically Skyrim with other players could work quite well on a console. Just add voice chat and that's it. I'm not a big fun of TESO for several reasons, but a console port isn't one of them.