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DOTA 2 isn't worth playing anymore.
So it has been a long time since I played DOTA 2, I am going to explain why DOTA 2 is not worth playing anymore or spending a dime in the game.
Not too long ago I got an email and read about how DOTA 2 was putting in a new system to deal with harassment, and trolls raging in games however it is not working and also causing harm to legit players.
I played 3 DOTA 2 games today and I got muted for 24 hours without any reason because I was troll reported in a game where all my team did was do harassment after I asked the person to leave Mid Lane because he ruined my lane phase and made the enemy team win, They were on voice being very verbally abusive, I finally told them I was going to ignore them because of harassment, went on about the game and explained to the newb why its important why you do not fail gank mid, push an enemy back, and such at mid. ( Never used a curse word.)
However after the game I find myself Muted for 24 hours, worst part is the reports were false, and there was no review by Valve, as a result after trying to play a 4th game I Could not communicate with my team at all, the person took my lane, and I had to leave the game because I couldn't say anything at all, but before I left the game first thing I hear is explict language I can't even repeat on this forum out of someone's dirty mouth and the game had just started no one even really left the base.
No one hears you. Your account has been flagged as disruptive and your communication privileges temporarily revoked. Time remaining: 23 hours
The mute also works in Private/clan chat as well you can't even type to your team and that is stupid.
Now I would agree with the punishment if there was a valid reason and curse word in the game said, but there was not only people who abused is the people who got on the mic and harassed the entire game talking trash.
This makes League OF Legends more worth playing than DOTA, because at least if you get punished you can still communicate with the team in other games.
While LOL has its issues, DOTA 2 has worse issues and needs to be fixed both communities are bad all around, but DOTA 2 all valve is doing is hurting legit players who actually spent over $100 in the game and no evidence of chat abuse.
I am waiting to post the issue on the Dev forums explaining that this needs to be looked at but can't get to steam account to link to the dev forums yet.
With this said, there is another issue, if they feel I was being annoying trying to teach these players not to ruin lane phase and cost the game There is a (IGNORE) feature in game for (non toxic behavior.) If we go around reporting all players and this feature remains in place we are just going to harm legit players.
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The TL;DR for this is simply:
"I don't realize that mutes/punishment for trolling and the like don't happen immediately, and assume it's because of one case instead of realizing it's an accumulation of reports/bad behavior."
Aka, just somebody that's not very good and trolls/complains non stop in games getting punished..
LoL's Communty is worse. Both have noobs and such ofcourse.. or non-talkers, trolls, ragers, haters.
But quitters are more common in LoL, and surrendering early is just giving up, cause they personally don't see they can win the game and that is very frustrating. Dota don't have that.
Personally i choose Dota 2 over LoL for this reason.
Thereisnospoon.
DOTA 2 is sluggish compared to LOL, pretty much makes the decision simple for me. They are both too slow paced though so I'm hoping the Blizzard one is better. All the other MOBA's that came out have populations that are too small to consider them.
Yep.
I play a bit of smite now waiting for blizzard moba.
Dota2/LoL is full of fucking trolls/afkers/feeders/leavers.. Only HoN is serious a bit
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So if you notice that I'm no longer answering your nonsense, stop trying... because you just joined my block list.
If you think LOL players and game mechanics is better and you wont be facing all the stuff that you are over here. Then you should go and try LOL, and figure out yourself that LOL is same as WOW.
If someone is harrassing you, or saying you on mic, why dont you mute them? there is always that option.
I thought it's gonna be about Rat Doto
Reports take about 3-4 weeks to process, i know this because i am getting more report tokens every time one of my reports was valid and action was taken.
You did not get muted for this one match, you got muted for something that happened a couple weeks back.
So you came here to cry about being muted for 24 hours? The title makes no sense as it has nothing to do with DOTA2 being worth playing anymore.
That's why I'm playing Hots over Dota 2 and LoL right now. Don't get me wrong I'm not talking about 24 hours mute. I'm talking about the toxic community. Hots got a lot of bad players too but thanks to the game mechanics(short game time, more action and team based gameplay etc.) we see these type of behaviors very rare. If I have a player like this on my team at least all I have to do is to wait for like 15-20 min to finish the game. That's all. I don't have to endure him for 40-50 min.
[mod edit] They said the same thing about the Heartstone when it was in the beta. Talking about the financial reports for a game in the closed beta. On top of that comparing the mobas on a thread about the Dota 2 community. Oh well... /facepalm
Well... The whole idea is to be a casual alternative in the moba arena.. So you got that point on... But since it is the aim of the game i am not sure we can hold that against it. Do think Blizzard lowered expectations because the moba genre is loosing some steam... Since everyone and their pet armadillo is making a MOBA... No if you like tot alk about a dud... Infinite Crisis is what i think will be the dud.
This have been a good conversation
People have done extensive testing of the punishment system for Dota 2. The basic gist is all it takes is 2 people reporting you for the same thing (i.e. communication abuse) in a 24 hr window for it to trigger and "punish" you.
So, people in the community know this, and if lets say a buddy and his friend are playing and you say something they dont like, they immediately report you for the same thing, and you get stuck in 5 low prio games, or communication banned for 24 hrs, etc.
They really need to use a system like in CS:GO where the reports/data are sent to an ACTUAL PERSON to review, before punishments are handed out. CS:GO's system uses community members who have been validated and are respected community members (i.e. they've been vetted and don't abuse the system, arent trolls, etc). Who do the reviews of the reports voluntarily on their own time. That way valve doesn't have to hire 10 million people to review reports, etc.
The current system is SO easily abused its not even funny. They really REALLY need to change it.
Of course, the simplest way to fix 90% of the problem would be to just put region locks in, and not let people queue on servers outside of their regional area, but they'll never do that.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
@DMKano
Yeah you got a point there.. It is a bit bland and i think you have a point that it will be a "baby´s first MOBA" before they advance on to bigger and better things.
Maybe it is just a matter of getting a foot hold in the market. Toss stuff at the wall and see what sticks.. HS after all stuck so well that WotC will be taking inspiration form it for their next digital MtG game...
Any way i am not invested enough in the MOBA market to see where it is going, i play smite since it is more a action game and who does not like to lay some holy wrath down. The only Blizzard title i am keeping an eye on right now i OverWatch and that is looking kind of fun.
This have been a good conversation
The tutorial is "Attack creeps and level up, we're not going to let you jump into games and ruin everybody elses enjoyment by being so bad.."
It has very little to do with the actual game, but it does prove to be a fairly reliable way to roadblock people that have no desire to learn anything and want to "just kill stuff" because Dota is not that forgiving..
I don't play Dota but...
http://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/45151/newzoo-dota-2-rise/
lol, OP mad
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