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ESO - Quakecon 2013 - Utter Disappointment!
jesusjuice69
Member Posts: 276
I am sure you have all seen this video,
The graphics and combat in this game look absolutely terrible. I had to check to see if clicked on the right link? For a minute, I thought I was watching an oblivion video! This is pathetic!
I was really hyped for this game until I saw this video. The realistic graphics looks extremely dated, like sub unmodded Skyrim level! It is bad, and it isn't even out yet. This is why the realistic graphics style doesn't work for MMOs!
Secondly, the combat looks absolutely atrocious. It is spammy and clunky, and the animations OMG the animations are horrid.
I also failed to see any resemblance of the trinity within that dungeon they ran. It just looked like 4 people playing solo.
I got to say my hype for this game went from 8 to about 4 after this video!
What do you guys think?
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I disagree, and so did those who did the 2 hour playthrough IN PERSON and wrote impressions about it. Its obvious that the capturing of the streaming video and then reposting an already degraded video quality only made it more degraded...so this isn't an accurate graphical representation of what others say they are seeing in person right in front of the monitor. Regardless, you are entitled to your opinion.
I think the combat looks very Skyrim like so I'm happy.
It was hard to see how the trinity held up because I couldn't tell what abilities each was using at all times and it was going fast. Regarldless, are you trying to say that a focus in healing or a focus in tanking if you choose to go those routes is only an illusion (which doesn't make sense), or are you saying that trinity isn't needed from the little combat they showed? That would be a ridiculous conclusion from a few minutes of gameplay.
Any other questions?
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If that looked good, then idk what gameplay footage that looked bad would be.
Capturing a streaming video doesn't lower the quality.
Why are you saying the video quality was already degraded?
Hell, maybe it does look better than what was in the video, but the combat still seems clunky and spammy. The obvious lack of trinity isn't effected by the quality of the video. The animations look uneventful and uninteresting.
Look at the Wildstar footage. That looks bad. Anymore questions?
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Why do you keep bringing up WS?
It is a completely different art style. They aren't comparable.
The graphics in that video don't even look good by today's standards of realistic MMOs.
Tera looks twice as good as this!
Thats odd, your original post was only your second post in the mmorpg forums making one think you are new,I haven't said much about Wildstar in the ESO forums recently, but you asked why I keep bringing up WS. In fact, the last post I posted in the WildStar forums was praising it for a feature reversal around questing. Things that make someone go hmmmmm. I answered your question. If you don't like the answer don't ask.
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You can't follow more than one game at a time here or something? What is your point? They are both releasing soon, and I am watching them both. I am also watching EQnext. I fail to see why you are bring this up... Are you mad? Is this your attempt to attack me?
The people doing that playthrough would be happy if they were handed a dog turd as long as you called it ESO.I think my point is clear, I don't need to spell it out further. You asked a question about footage and I gave you an answer you didn't like and then tried to bait me by characterizing my last 40 or so posts inaccurately as if someone was to read my last 40 or so posts you will see tons of Wildstar comments when there was only a compliment in their forums.
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Why do you keep throwing out the word question. Do you think the community needs to come to you for your expert opinion or something? I honestly don't care if you like WS or not. I merely asked why do you keep trying to bring it up in this discussion? It is apples and oranges!
Now if you would like to leave a valid comment, then please do so.
But I refuse to get drawn into an ESO v/s WS argument!
Looks good to me.
I think it was Paul or (one of the devs who were playing ) who said something like " Looks like the healer died " so it looks like there will be a spec built around healing which would be great.
The game isnt due out till next year so hopefully it will end up even better.
Yup, you could see that horse's ass was made up of a huge square.
It was pretty bad. That has nothing to do with video rendering quality either!
This is an example of someone that didn't post to discuss the game. Maybe, just maybe the video quality is actually a lot better in person that the streaming video might lead one to believe rather than writers who are entitled to a legitimate opinion? I'm encouraged by their impression of their 2 hour personal playthrough. Sorry if that bothers you.
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+1 Agreed, and anyone who has watched streams in the past have seen identical things with just about every other game.
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Sorry, but I have been there before. You are so excited about getting to play the game, that you aren't even remotely looking at it from an unbiased stand point. These reviews are worthless. Besides, only ONE, count them ONE, of my concerns was graphic quality, which admittedly is possibly effected by the streaming video. I can admit that it possible, and have done so already.
Just look how bad the animations are when the guy is shooting that bow.
He pulls it back an inch, and the arrow instantly disappears!
Idk, if you guys know this, but Skyrim looked mediocre at best, even when it was released.
Mods are what made it shine.
Mediocre? Really? Crap, we must have not played the same game. I really think the only gripe I had with Skyrim's graphics was the shadows.
However, if you really want to go there. Explain to me the technical attributes of skyrim's graphics that where bad, I would like sources, pictures and examples of all your claims. It would be also nice if you could post comparisons. Then also do the same for ESO. Try to keep comparisons with in the same genre and time of release for skyrim.
I would also like statistics such as poly count and texture resolutions for each screenshot.
How is that for being unbiased?
Okay, that should be easy.
Two words.
Dated Consoles!
Crysis 2
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/&menu=browser&image_id=982847&article_id=677414&page=1&show=original
Skyrim
http://0.tqn.com/d/compactiongames/1/0/s/r/1/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-scr05.jpg
Crysis is made for a 2011 gaming PC.
Skyrim is made for a 2005 Console. Skyrim could be run on ultra with even a bad video card when it launched on PC!
The video feed was in 780p and it is not indicative of the actual graphical appearance. I could care less about GFX though but what I care for is gameplay and it's painfully obvious Zenimax has a lot of work to do in this department. The zones are looking extremely far too linear for an Elder Scrolls Game.
Random Forum Poster: I want an MMO that is different, original and fun.
Me: So you want something like EQN
Them: Nah dude, I want a Holy Trinity, Tab Target combat, Instanced Raiding, and Rigid classes.
Me: Double Facepalm.
You already failed. I said with in the same genre and same time frame. Also, crysis is a very poor example to be honest. It was created as a showcase, and was meant to look as realistic as possible. It was made for the purpose of eye candy. Skyrim and ESO is not being made with that purely in mind. Also, not all games need to be photo realistic to be considered to have good graphics.
So try again.
The graphics itselves are the best of any mmo so far for realisme, the annimations could still use some work. But graphics quallity is said by reviewers to be above Skyrim, which is surprisingly high for an MMO that claims to be able to put 200 player characters on screen withouth lag.
You obviously dont have a clue about the combat system, its resource based, and its anything but spamy, you fight using your weapon abbilities and you have to carefully time your skills for the best and maximúm effect. There obviously is need for a healer, but tanking is much much harder so dps will get agro as for most tanks it will be i possible to grab and keep all agro.. The healers however can handle this as dps is a bit more sturdy then you are used to be. But you should really read up on the Combat mechanics.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I honestly didn't read your post I skimmed it.
They are both single player games.
That is the only real important factor. I mean was there even a single player RPG that launched in 2011 besides ESO? That is pretty narrow lens to look through, even if another did exist. Point is the graphics of skyrim were mediocre to bad, when it launched compared to other games.
TERA would like to have a word with you.
The character models in that game are astounding! I don't even really enjoy playing the game, but the combat and the graphics really are top notch. If only it had end game instead of grind, then it would be an outstanding MMO!
I hear you, I am sort of the same way, which is why cartoon graphics don't bother me.
Its the animations and combat that are killing it for me. Combat is at the core of MMOS! You got to make that your cornerstone!