Originally posted by bubbabill after reading all this, i think im gonna go make an account on eve and get to a space station and just hang out there talking smack to see how many bounties I can get against me. Should be fun
Humm, Won't be long till I see your face on the Billboards in EvE.
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
Create 2 accounts. The first be a total asshat and try hard to get bounties put on you; probably not that hard people offend easy in video games. The second used to collect the bounty put on the first.
Reactions like this is why a tiny bit of research goes a mile to provide against disapointing experiences. Anyone could have told you that Eve has a learning curve of a wall. It is brutal... In fact it is so brutal that most quit within a week, but at the same time once you get to grips with it and make some friends it is very rewarding.
But it is not for people who are not in to PvP.
I highlighted the point I'm addressing. In my original post I said exactly that. It's a game for STRICTLY PVPers. I am in total agreement with you. If one prefers PVE (Mining/Industry/Missions) EVE IS NOT FOR THEM because a PVPer can come and take it from you AT ANY TIME and ANY WHERE. PVE in the game is completely pointless as is the Bounty system.
The things is your posts come of as both angry and surprised... So i assumed you were unaware when you started playing that hi-sec is not the same as totally safe.. a face that anyone who have played the game could have told you long before you started playing. Thus my comment about doing a tiny bit of research first.
If not you are just another tin-can crusader and i would like to make you aware of the windmills to my right...
Edit: Actually the bounty system is a very nice feature to shut annoying little limp noodels up. They play high and mighty, next they know every low bit desperate BH is gunning for them. =P That or you sell their name to some of the ganker corps... Either way works.
Wow you can ascertain my emotions over the internet! An amazing feat! Grats! You basically just confirmed what I said, ANYONE CAN DIE ANYWHERE IN EVE. Who was the audience for my post? New players thinking of trying EVE. Of course a seasoned player would know this. As far as the bounty system, it means nothing, I have had a WANTED sign on me for months, no one has tried to come for me specifically. It hasn't "shut me up" if anything I can talk smack with impunity because I already have a bounty! So go suck it! See that? I can say whatever I want to anyone in EVE. Bounties mean squat, I love it!
Your audience aren't new players, it's gullible morons who couldn't think for themselves or be arsed to study up on a game before trying it.
Create 2 accounts. The first be a total asshat and try hard to get bounties put on you; probably not that hard people offend easy in video games. The second used to collect the bounty put on the first.
The one with the bounties on it would have to fly an expensive ship for the other to get a good percentage of the total bounty.
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
I lost interest in Eve after a couple of days so I started begging other players to kill me....Whats funny is no one ever did because they were sure it was a trap.....
Originally posted by bubbabill Thanks op for the warning. I was actually considering trying the game out. Guess ill wait for Elite Dangerous and have a solo space game with no 12 year old snot nose kid showing me his 1337 skillz.
A 12 years old with guts. I believe that's much much better than a 40 years old wuss.
lol guts? ganking is a act of a coward. so next
You forgot "in my opinion". Of course the weak will never admit it.
no i didnt forget my opinion, you just wont admit that its a act of a coward to gank. no worry im sure you can see a shrink when you get older to help you with your anger issues.
I play and mmoRPG and i roleplay the bad guy therefore i will try to blow you up .You can be stronger or weaker,it does not matter.
Not sure you are really role-playing , seems to be pretty much in character actually.
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Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
"Low risk" is the keyword here. It's not "no risk", it's "low risk". Losing your beginner ship ain't a problem, in fact, as long as you are doing the actual tutorial any losses on the players part won't matter. It's insignificant ISK. So yeah, "low risk" it is, never have anyone said "no risk".
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
Well said but do not use Broomy as an EvE pilot in game. Im sure Bounties are being posted !
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
Well said but do not use Broomy as an EvE pilot in game. Im sure Bounties are being posted !
Only people who don't understand the game mechanics care about bounties.
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New players trying EvE don't pay for it the first 2 weeks. They should be able to figure out for themselves if the low risk areas are actually high risk. (Wich they were not for me, never been suicide ganked).
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
Well said but do not use Broomy as an EvE pilot in game. Im sure Bounties are being posted !
LOL thanks, but my bounty is already 3/4 Billion isk because I told some disturbed individual to go F off when he asked me to suck his pp. What's another million at this point? In fact I would love to be the first Carebear Miner in EVE history with the largest Bounty on my head. It would be ultimate proof of how meaningless their bounty system is.
So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
You are pushing your own perception of the game on everyone else.
A newbie player podded and killed LOSES VIRTUALLY NOTHING. He doesn't fucking have anything. What is he going to lose? His pride? Lol
PvE missions mean lots of things. They mean a stable source of income. You're making it sound like high-sec is no-mans-land or something, it's not, Concord is still there and attacking that newbie means loss of income. Sure, it may happen, and it does, but it's a bigger loss to the attacker than the newbie at that point. The newbie will most probably profit from missions regardless, which is why they're brought up. Especially if he does all the recommended things like insuring the ship and not putting anything expensive on it.
None of this was ever made a mystery last time I checked. People in Rookie Chat are quick to tell you that you should never fly anything you are not ready to lose, that you can die anywhere, don't use autopilot, don't trust people, etc.
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OP: I doubt any CCP employee has ever said that highsec in Eve is "safe".
So, if true, it's not a marketing ploy, it was instead your misperception. I don't doubt your feelings of loss, but Eve is, was, and will be a pvp game. Whoever you've been listening to about highsec being safe was the liar.
I also don't doubt that there are others who don't believe what CCP has said about the nature of their game.
Even if you're in a station, Eve is not "safe". I was in Jita yesterday and some player with the same misperception as yours couldn't figure out why a sell contract labeled "Megathron Navy Issue" had only a regular megathron in it. A scam (business pvp) and they couldn't believe it.
A piece of unsolicited advice: I hope you can adust to your loss of rl time and rl money, but if not, find a different game where that kind of loss can't happen.
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
Now i can admit there have been a few years since i did the new player experience last time and it might have changed since. But back then they did warn you several times that you could be killed any where and any time. Heck it was even on the home page back then.
Any way your OP comes off more then a little angry and confrontational, a better way would have been to make a guide or some similar post for new players, teaching rather then trying to frighten. Also posting here is pretty much "preaching to the church" as we are the 2-5% that actually are active... Most of the people you are trying to reach never come here.
So while you fight the windmills with the most noble of intentions you still in the end only make an behind of your self and ruin some rather expensive farm equipment.
Now if it is as you say and the NPE give no hint to the fate that awaits a new player... I think that is bad and the proper thing to do is to make a suggestion post over at the EvE-forums (in the correct sub forum) as it at least will have a chance (slim but still) compared to what this post of yurs will manage to achive.
Originally posted by bubbabill Thanks op for the warning. I was actually considering trying the game out. Guess ill wait for Elite Dangerous and have a solo space game with no 12 year old snot nose kid showing me his 1337 skillz.
A 12 years old with guts. I believe that's much much better than a 40 years old wuss.
lol guts? ganking is a act of a coward. so next
You forgot "in my opinion". Of course the weak will never admit it.
no i didnt forget my opinion, you just wont admit that its a act of a coward to gank. no worry im sure you can see a shrink when you get older to help you with your anger issues.
I play and mmoRPG and i roleplay the bad guy therefore i will try to blow you up .You can be stronger or weaker,it does not matter.
Humm, your sig says something else. I would also say that one does not have to pay for how you want to play.
Both I and the company agree that one does not have to pay for my choice of how to play. That's why you can choose to play or not to play.
OP: I doubt any CCP employee has ever said that highsec in Eve is "safe".
So, if true, it's not a marketing ploy, it was instead your misperception. I don't doubt your feelings of loss, but Eve is, was, and will be a pvp game. Whoever you've been listening to about highsec being safe was the liar.
I also don't doubt that there are others who don't believe what CCP has said about the nature of their game.
Even if you're in a station, Eve is not "safe". I was in Jita yesterday and some player with the same misperception as yours couldn't figure out why a sell contract labeled "Megathron Navy Issue" had only a regular megathron in it. A scam (business pvp) and they couldn't believe it.
A piece of unsolicited advice: I hope you can adust to your loss of rl time and rl money, but if not, find a different game where that kind of loss can't happen.
SMH. It is constantly pushed out that High sec is low risk, both on the EVE forums and by virtue of the new player experience. And yes lies are told all the time to lure in new players. Stop trying to defend CCP. And stop trying to make this personal to me, I could care less about virtual items and my clone is always updated. The ONLY thing that would anger me would be a loss of skill points and clones prevent that. As far as a new game, I am waiting for my game to be released. I play EVE off and on as a "second" game so its no biggie. I come to MMORPG to post because its the ONLY unbiased place to post on a game without being crucified by forum Stans on the official game forums. Lets agree to disagree. And any newbie can try the FREE trial and see exactly what Im talking about with either the bounties or the High sec "low risk" BS that CCP tries to deploy.
For sh*t's and giggles I just googled two phrases:
"High-sec is safe"
10 hits.
"Do not fly what you cannot afford to lose"
76,800 hits.
I'm sorry OP and to those that agree with him. I've been a high-sec "carebear" running L4s, this month marking my 7th year, and I've never (read: ZERO) been ganked/killed in high-sec outside of a wardec. I suppose I could just be lucky. Or maybe I don't fly tasty looking targets. Or maybe I did my research before I started playing 7 years ago and learned early to pay attention and not do anything that may get you killed. Hell, I've also lived in low-sec for a few years on an alt and he was never ganked unexpectedly...
Does my experience mean that High-Sec is safe? Of course not. Does the OPs experience mean that High-Sec is a gank fest? Nope.
Course, this won't change the haters minds so carry on I suppose.
OP: I doubt any CCP employee has ever said that highsec in Eve is "safe".
So, if true, it's not a marketing ploy, it was instead your misperception. I don't doubt your feelings of loss, but Eve is, was, and will be a pvp game. Whoever you've been listening to about highsec being safe was the liar.
I also don't doubt that there are others who don't believe what CCP has said about the nature of their game.
Even if you're in a station, Eve is not "safe". I was in Jita yesterday and some player with the same misperception as yours couldn't figure out why a sell contract labeled "Megathron Navy Issue" had only a regular megathron in it. A scam (business pvp) and they couldn't believe it.
A piece of unsolicited advice: I hope you can adust to your loss of rl time and rl money, but if not, find a different game where that kind of loss can't happen.
SMH. It is constantly pushed out that High sec is low risk, both on the EVE forums and by virtue of the new player experience. And yes lies are told all the time to lure in new players. Stop trying to defend CCP. And stop trying to make this personal to me, I could care less about virtual items and my clone is always updated. The ONLY thing that would anger me would be a loss of skill points and clones prevent that. As far as a new game, I am waiting for my game to be released. I play EVE off and on as a "second" game so its no biggie. I come to MMORPG to post because its the ONLY unbiased place to post on a game without being crucified by forum Stans on the official game forums. Lets agree to disagree. And any newbie can try the FREE trial and see exactly what Im talking about with either the bounties or the High sec "low risk" BS that CCP tries to deploy.
mmorpg.com...unbiased... now I know this is a troll thread.
I see all the comments, and yeah it boils down to whether I want to pay money to get ganked. Well I don't, so that's really that. I just want to let anyone thinking of trying the game know, High sec is a Lie, you can lose it all anywhere. And all that "new player" experience is still BS. People will kill you for shits & giggles in this game, new player or not. Eve can keep its "fanbase", the game allows trolls to dominate with griefing. And for those that say "Don't piss people off" in my instance I suppose I should have said "Yeah Ill suck your 3 inch pp for you!" in order to keep the peace...NOT ON YOUR LIFE. Maybe that's what YOU would do, but I don't.
And I'm not crying about being blown up, I am warning those that think some areas are safe. AND YES there is a BIG misconception that certain high sec areas are safe, I'm here to say THEY ARE NOT SAFE, that's a marketing ploy put out to sucker in new players.
Safe flying! (In another game!)
High sec is not a lie it provides high security,it is exactly what it says. I can still shoot you in the middle of a police station but that would assure my arrest.
Actually a fair amount of your attitude shines through in the way you type... Also CAPS = shouting (another fact you seem to be unaware of) and why would you be shouting if you were happy and content..?
Any way... I agree it is a lot easier to just pay a gank-corp to take you out then do a bounty but not everyone have those kind of contacts. and thus the bounty system works fine.. you just need to make the incentive big enough.
Not saying you are wrong.. just that you go about things in a very backwards kind of way.
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
Now i can admit there have been a few years since i did the new player experience last time and it might have changed since. But back then they did warn you several times that you could be killed any where and any time. Heck it was even on the home page back then.
Any way your OP comes off more then a little angry and confrontational, a better way would have been to make a guide or some similar post for new players, teaching rather then trying to frighten. Also posting here is pretty much "preaching to the church" as we are the 2-5% that actually are active... Most of the people you are trying to reach never come here.
So while you fight the windmills with the most noble of intentions you still in the end only make an behind of your self and ruin some rather expensive farm equipment.
Now if it is as you say and the NPE give no hint to the fate that awaits a new player... I think that is bad and the proper thing to do is to make a suggestion post over at the EvE-forums (in the correct sub forum) as it at least will have a chance (slim but still) compared to what this post of yurs will manage to achive.
Nope, your absolutely wrong, making a post on the EVE forums full of Stans is the waste of time. New players LOOKING FOR NEW GAMEs, come HERE to MMORPG. They check it out and then go to game forums. So this is the perfect venue to speak the truth on the game. Official game forums are a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME if your trying to find out the truth of a game. If the Stans don't kill you, the forum moderators will, because they don't want the truth to be known.
Originally posted by bubbabill Thanks op for the warning. I was actually considering trying the game out. Guess ill wait for Elite Dangerous and have a solo space game with no 12 year old snot nose kid showing me his 1337 skillz.
A 12 years old with guts. I believe that's much much better than a 40 years old wuss.
lol guts? ganking is a act of a coward. so next
You forgot "in my opinion". Of course the weak will never admit it.
no i didnt forget my opinion, you just wont admit that its a act of a coward to gank. no worry im sure you can see a shrink when you get older to help you with your anger issues.
I play and mmoRPG and i roleplay the bad guy therefore i will try to blow you up .You can be stronger or weaker,it does not matter.
you are right it doesn't matter. Myself ill be playing Elite Dangerous when it comes out and be able to play in peace. you can play your little Eve and gank away. Simple isnt it.
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Humm, Won't be long till I see your face on the Billboards in EvE.
MAGA
Someone probably aready does this but-
Create 2 accounts. The first be a total asshat and try hard to get bounties put on you; probably not that hard people offend easy in video games. The second used to collect the bounty put on the first.
Um, just because you're not very good at EVE doesn't mean the rest of us aren't...
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Currently playing: GW2, EVE
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Your audience aren't new players, it's gullible morons who couldn't think for themselves or be arsed to study up on a game before trying it.
The one with the bounties on it would have to fly an expensive ship for the other to get a good percentage of the total bounty.
You don't get the full bounty
I also don't see what the issue is. The game has a free trial. You should be able to figure most things out in 14 days.
Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?
Sigh:: I will repeat, the post was for people thinking of trying EVE. By coming in here and talking about my "attitude" doesn't discredit the fact that what I am saying is absolutely correct. In fact, you and several others have actually confirmed what I said. Your using the "attitude" argument to get off topic and sorry it won't work.
As for the "marketing" ploy I talked about, EVE has set up the "new player experience" in order to attract new players and provide them with education about the game. They have pushed that out and made a big deal about it in order to get people acclimated. What they FAIL to state is that new players can get ganked or killed for thrills anywhere. So all those stupid pve missions they introduced for new players means squat if they are podded and killed repeatedly while doing them. And all in the EVE forums and here, people always talk about the low risks in High sec, comeon, please we have seen that malarkey endlessly. Its simply used as a lure not just by CCP but veteran players to get new people to pay for the game. More cannon fodder. Let's be real here.
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Not sure you are really role-playing , seems to be pretty much in character actually.
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"Low risk" is the keyword here. It's not "no risk", it's "low risk". Losing your beginner ship ain't a problem, in fact, as long as you are doing the actual tutorial any losses on the players part won't matter. It's insignificant ISK. So yeah, "low risk" it is, never have anyone said "no risk".
I lost 3 newbie ships in my first week. So what?
Well said but do not use Broomy as an EvE pilot in game. Im sure Bounties are being posted !
MAGA
Only people who don't understand the game mechanics care about bounties.
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LOL thanks, but my bounty is already 3/4 Billion isk because I told some disturbed individual to go F off when he asked me to suck his pp. What's another million at this point? In fact I would love to be the first Carebear Miner in EVE history with the largest Bounty on my head. It would be ultimate proof of how meaningless their bounty system is.
Current Games: WOW, EVE Online
You are pushing your own perception of the game on everyone else.
A newbie player podded and killed LOSES VIRTUALLY NOTHING. He doesn't fucking have anything. What is he going to lose? His pride? Lol
PvE missions mean lots of things. They mean a stable source of income. You're making it sound like high-sec is no-mans-land or something, it's not, Concord is still there and attacking that newbie means loss of income. Sure, it may happen, and it does, but it's a bigger loss to the attacker than the newbie at that point. The newbie will most probably profit from missions regardless, which is why they're brought up. Especially if he does all the recommended things like insuring the ship and not putting anything expensive on it.
None of this was ever made a mystery last time I checked. People in Rookie Chat are quick to tell you that you should never fly anything you are not ready to lose, that you can die anywhere, don't use autopilot, don't trust people, etc.
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Currently playing: GW2, EVE
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OP: I doubt any CCP employee has ever said that highsec in Eve is "safe".
So, if true, it's not a marketing ploy, it was instead your misperception. I don't doubt your feelings of loss, but Eve is, was, and will be a pvp game. Whoever you've been listening to about highsec being safe was the liar.
I also don't doubt that there are others who don't believe what CCP has said about the nature of their game.
Even if you're in a station, Eve is not "safe". I was in Jita yesterday and some player with the same misperception as yours couldn't figure out why a sell contract labeled "Megathron Navy Issue" had only a regular megathron in it. A scam (business pvp) and they couldn't believe it.
A piece of unsolicited advice: I hope you can adust to your loss of rl time and rl money, but if not, find a different game where that kind of loss can't happen.
Now i can admit there have been a few years since i did the new player experience last time and it might have changed since. But back then they did warn you several times that you could be killed any where and any time. Heck it was even on the home page back then.
Any way your OP comes off more then a little angry and confrontational, a better way would have been to make a guide or some similar post for new players, teaching rather then trying to frighten. Also posting here is pretty much "preaching to the church" as we are the 2-5% that actually are active... Most of the people you are trying to reach never come here.
So while you fight the windmills with the most noble of intentions you still in the end only make an behind of your self and ruin some rather expensive farm equipment.
Now if it is as you say and the NPE give no hint to the fate that awaits a new player... I think that is bad and the proper thing to do is to make a suggestion post over at the EvE-forums (in the correct sub forum) as it at least will have a chance (slim but still) compared to what this post of yurs will manage to achive.
This have been a good conversation
Both I and the company agree that one does not have to pay for my choice of how to play. That's why you can choose to play or not to play.
SMH. It is constantly pushed out that High sec is low risk, both on the EVE forums and by virtue of the new player experience. And yes lies are told all the time to lure in new players. Stop trying to defend CCP. And stop trying to make this personal to me, I could care less about virtual items and my clone is always updated. The ONLY thing that would anger me would be a loss of skill points and clones prevent that. As far as a new game, I am waiting for my game to be released. I play EVE off and on as a "second" game so its no biggie. I come to MMORPG to post because its the ONLY unbiased place to post on a game without being crucified by forum Stans on the official game forums. Lets agree to disagree. And any newbie can try the FREE trial and see exactly what Im talking about with either the bounties or the High sec "low risk" BS that CCP tries to deploy.
Current Games: WOW, EVE Online
For sh*t's and giggles I just googled two phrases:
"High-sec is safe"
10 hits.
"Do not fly what you cannot afford to lose"
76,800 hits.
I'm sorry OP and to those that agree with him. I've been a high-sec "carebear" running L4s, this month marking my 7th year, and I've never (read: ZERO) been ganked/killed in high-sec outside of a wardec. I suppose I could just be lucky. Or maybe I don't fly tasty looking targets. Or maybe I did my research before I started playing 7 years ago and learned early to pay attention and not do anything that may get you killed. Hell, I've also lived in low-sec for a few years on an alt and he was never ganked unexpectedly...
Does my experience mean that High-Sec is safe? Of course not. Does the OPs experience mean that High-Sec is a gank fest? Nope.
Course, this won't change the haters minds so carry on I suppose.
GL HF Fly Safe,
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mmorpg.com...unbiased... now I know this is a troll thread.
High sec is not a lie it provides high security,it is exactly what it says. I can still shoot you in the middle of a police station but that would assure my arrest.
Nope, your absolutely wrong, making a post on the EVE forums full of Stans is the waste of time. New players LOOKING FOR NEW GAMEs, come HERE to MMORPG. They check it out and then go to game forums. So this is the perfect venue to speak the truth on the game. Official game forums are a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME if your trying to find out the truth of a game. If the Stans don't kill you, the forum moderators will, because they don't want the truth to be known.
Sorry sir, your backwards here, truly so.
Current Games: WOW, EVE Online
Yep.