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why is this game more popular than lets say Vanguard
eddieg50
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or Tera or even Tor. I can only think it is because people are graphic worshipers or have some type of idealized thought about FF. Of course when we play these games it is only natural to compare them to others we have played.
I am not saying that ff is a terrible game just bland, ie mediocre. Yes the graphics are much better than the years old Vanguard but the crafting, combat, freedom (zones) diplomacy (one of a kind) exploration value, do not come close to Vanguard. Even Tera-both games have generic quests and both have great graphics but the combat is light years ahead in Tera. Even Tor with its average mmo mechanics has a much better quest system and cut scenes.
I guess what I am asking is How could this game be more popular than Vanguard-beats me? I am guessing it is because we are living in the "Latest and Greatest" generation I do understand the latest, but where is the Greatest?
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FFXIV: ARR looks gorgeous. Vanguard looks ugly. This is enough for me to pick one over the other.
TERA has action combat and I don't play MMO's for twitch combat. TOR is Star Wars and George Lucas ruined the whole franchise for me with those prequels.
It's developers doesn't give up on the game and barely update it.
(Talking about vanguard)
Not SOE.
Not a cash shop money game.
Players are willing to give it a chance because it doesn't have a nefarious background.
Vanguard was a great game at the time it realeased, but it was killed by a ton of technical problems, constant crashing, hitching, not well optimized. So far in FFXIV ARR gameplay was smooth in both beta 2 and 3 for me with very few bugs I had come across and not were game breaking and all were minor.
The game looks simply amazing, and to think the graphics are not as good as the old 1.0 lol, its a FF numbered title, the FF series has a lot of fans, a LOT. The game does not do anything groundbreaking but if you're and FF fan and an MMO player and there are many games around sort of play the same, the no brainer would be to play FF which you like, which is where the large fan base that I mentioned comes in.
As for tera, I don't like action combat and I don't like F2P games, TOR well, SW has a lot of sci fans, but they're not gaming fans like FF has.
Well i tried TERA and it is god awful at least the starting area was so i never bothered to play it anymore.
TOR as in the SWTOR?Well if your a SW fan i could see that game being your thing although it never really offered me anything enjoyable outside of following quests.
Vanguard?Nothing wrong with VG really,i like the game,it is a solid game.It just comes down to choice and the fact that i rather support Square Enix than SOE.
I still play FFXI,so i have no problem with older games,i have thought several times that when i need a break from FFXI,i might go back to VG again,for a bit.
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Is this a real question?
Vanguard - buggy, incomplete, one of the worst launches ever, 2003 graphics, uninspired and uninteresting gameplay, game world, lore...
If you were comparing FFXIV 1.0 to Vanguard I'd say they were much, much closer in comparison, but comparing FFXIV:ARR to Vanguard is just... asinine.
Apples to oranges.
No, Tera has a big playerbase ONLY due to its combat- it's the only action combat with a intense tactical approach actually (starts in endgame though). Lots of players left mainly because of the boring leveling phase and extremely slow content delivery (I'd even say slowest of all MMOs I've played so far).
I didn't find the combat that great in Tera, if I wanted to play an action game I'll play an action game that does it much better than Tera. I'm not saying an MMO can't have action combat, I'm just saying Tera didn't do it right.
I was gearing up to tackle the hard modes du jour. While doing the same goddamn PvP in the hopes of gearing up some more. Running LoT ad nauseum to help with the gearing up. I had had it!
Running some shitty instances and the same goddamn Nexus Traverses until I got sick of them for WHAT? Just so I could be more geared up to tackle content that would give me more gear to tackle harder content to...etc. etc. etc.
I think people are hoping FFXIV delivers something more than a gear treadmill. A more palatable story perhaps?
I find it funny how Tera is always applauded for it´s combat system and people claim it´s the best action combat of any online game ever made.
The phantasy star saga has been offering customizable, action combat since like 1999
The last two games, Phantasy Star Universe and especially the newer Phantasy Star Online 2 offer much smoother, fast, flashy and above all, customizable and editable combat system, combos and what not.
Tera´s combat is so 1995 it hurts.
And i say this as a current Tera player, i am not hating the game in any way.
Let's see,
One developer releases garbage and says "wait a minute, please let me fix this". And they pull the game back and remake it from the ground up.
Another developer releases garbage and says "Wait a minute, please let me fix this". And they pull the game back and release it F2P with a cash shop.
If youre wondering why its similar to those other games its because ITS AN MMO!
Well, it'd certainly be hard to find someone who didn't like the combat yet played the game as hardcore as that, unless they were sadists. So your statement doesn't make much sense, and besides it's an opinion not fact that action twitch based combat is better than strategic "turn based" combat.
Every major release gets hype. If anything ARR has less hype than SWTOR and GW2 had at release. Part of the hype is from the fact that this is the first MMO that was literally so terrible it had to be completely shut down and remade.
The more important factor is 30-60 days in. Both SWTOR and Tera had a mass exodus of players due to poor endgame. FFXIV will probably be vulnerable here as well since a large part of the population is legacy who will automatically be at endgame. Significant content has also been delayed for 2 months.
EQNext is already overshadowing this game. My own prediction is that FFXIV will drop off the radar within 2 months and be Tera / Secret World status. I understand the reasons for having no free2play, but it does make maintaining long-term interest very difficult to sustain since people who drop off after release will not be replaced by fresh blood as quickly.
XIV is not doing anything new and ground breaking. And that's exactly why I'm playing. Many MMO's have come out these past few years. Trying to do something new and grand, action combat, guild v guild open world PvP. WvWvW But you know what, I want to play a nice, old school MMO, with modern conveniences. I want to play Vanilla WoW again, but on a new engine, with new lore. and that's exactly what XIV gives me.
Newer doesn't always mean better.
They did a poll recently, and I'll be darned if I can find it again.
Anyway, even among the legacy, fewer are actually opting to bring in their old progress. Most are wanting to start clean and experience the game from start to finish.
Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
Thomas Jefferson
Phantasy Star is a lobby game....
And you're point is? I agree with IfrianMMO, Phantasy Star did it before Tera and does it better.
Are we really having this conversation? The reason it was special in Tera was because Tera is a full fledged open world MMO.
You might as well have compared it to Monster Hunter. Are you one of those people that bash on Planetside because it's gameplay isn't as crisp as CoD?