I find it funny how Tera is always applauded for it´s combat system and people claim it´s the best action combat of any online game ever made.
The phantasy star saga has been offering customizable, action combat since like 1999
The last two games, Phantasy Star Universe and especially the newer Phantasy Star Online 2 offer much smoother, fast, flashy and above all, customizable and editable combat system, combos and what not.
Tera´s combat is so 1995 it hurts.
And i say this as a current Tera player, i am not hating the game in any way.
Phantasy Star is a lobby game....
And you're point is? I agree with IfrianMMO, Phantasy Star did it before Tera and does it better.
Are we really having this conversation? The reason it was special in Tera was because Tera is a full fledged open world MMO.
You might as well have compared it to Monster Hunter
We're talking about combat in an online game, just because it's open world doesn't mean it's combat is automatically better.
Throwing out the graphics/setting debate since that's really subjective I think it comes down to "quality of life" features that XIV brings that games like Vanguard just don't have. What most people want is a game where they can log in and play the game and not the interface. XIV doesn't do anything ground-breaking like others have stated but it's the subtle things that at least for me make it more enjoyable.
Things like auto-tagging mobs with a letter, target filters, auto-sorting loot, a well laid out but customizeable UI, a mmo that can actually be played well by a gamepad, and the list goes on but you get the point. It's polish. I love Vanguard but there were times I wanted to pull my hair out because of the issues that were never addressed. Yeah maybe the combat or crafting aren't as in depth based on my limited experience in XIV, but when my friends and I grouped up and played XIV this weekend we all felt within a couple hours the differences between this and other games.
Truth, this game is so well thought out, so well crafted, and attention given to every single detail that it has a quality that most MMOs take years to get.
I find it funny how Tera is always applauded for it´s combat system and people claim it´s the best action combat of any online game ever made.
The phantasy star saga has been offering customizable, action combat since like 1999
The last two games, Phantasy Star Universe and especially the newer Phantasy Star Online 2 offer much smoother, fast, flashy and above all, customizable and editable combat system, combos and what not.
Tera´s combat is so 1995 it hurts.
And i say this as a current Tera player, i am not hating the game in any way.
Phantasy Star is a lobby game....
And you're point is? I agree with IfrianMMO, Phantasy Star did it before Tera and does it better.
Are we really having this conversation? The reason it was special in Tera was because Tera is a full fledged open world MMO.
You might as well have compared it to Monster Hunter
We're talking about combat in an online game, just because it's open world doesn't mean it's combat is automatically better.
Of course not, but comparing a lobby game to a full fledged MMO is absolutely idiotic. There are technical limitations that are bypassed by the extremely heavy use of instancing in lobby games. It's the same reason you don't compare single player gameplay to MMOs.
There are reasons why games like Vindictus and PSO use heavy lobby systems and not open world mechanics. So trying to hold that against a game like Tera, which is a completely different beast on a technical scale, is just utterly stupid.
I kind of feel like I am being trolled here but I will bite anyway.
It has been a long time since I have actually felt this way about an mmo's release, maybe I am a little biased because I am a FF worshipper, however that's not all that appeals to me, yes the graphics are amazing, is there something wrong with enjoying a little eye candy?
That all being said why is this game such a big deal, maybe because Square finally pulled their heads out and gave a game worthy of the square name, what makes this game worthy, the Square quality in everything from story, graphics, sound, gameplay (this game is effing fun).
They have also perfected many things that so many games have tried and failed like your logs and achievements that are actually rewarding to complete, dailies ala guildleves are fun and worth while without feeling grindy. One of the best things is how they perfect the multi class and advanced class systems. They have also made an instanced world feel less instanced than some games (secret world and Tera being bad examples) They are emphasizing on making the adventure from 1 to cap exciting by way of storyline quests that are plain awesome to the class quests and dungeons.
Square is also making sure they perfect PvE before introducing PvP because they do not want to introduce sub par content, I am glad this company is trying successfully to redeem themselves and make Square a household name again and anyone who appreciates quality, fun, and a strong community will not only believe this game is better than Tera and Vanguard, but will stand by their opinion and support Square and this project 100%.
P.S. Square has made sub based gaming sexy again and I will not miss the modern day cash shop at all.
I find it funny how Tera is always applauded for it´s combat system and people claim it´s the best action combat of any online game ever made.
The phantasy star saga has been offering customizable, action combat since like 1999
The last two games, Phantasy Star Universe and especially the newer Phantasy Star Online 2 offer much smoother, fast, flashy and above all, customizable and editable combat system, combos and what not.
Tera´s combat is so 1995 it hurts.
And i say this as a current Tera player, i am not hating the game in any way.
If you say Tera combat is so 95' and PSO did it in 99', then what is FF oldschool, back to the roots tactical combat? 85'? You are trying to say the older is better, wait.. no, you just said old is bad.. I don't get it.
Basically to reiterate what many have said here already, it's Final Fantasy. MMO fans on here just don't seem to get it into their heads. A lot of long term fans are playing this game, not just a bunch of MMOers who play for a bit and say "lol this sucks" and then leave.
This series has a lot of loyal fans and they will play this game probably through thick and thin. Why do you think XI is still going? Besides the fact that it is a quality MMO, it is Final Fantasy and that name holds a lot of weight.
It's been said above, but for one it's Final Fantasy. I like Final Fantasy, it's graphics, games, everything.
Secondly in regards to Vanguard, it's not run by the worst Developer in the industry, SOE. SOE hasn't been good since EQ. They have extremely slow updates, and the updates break more than they fix usually. There are still bugs in Vanguard (as of 2 months ago) that were there at launch. Then there's the overall business sense that SOE has. Money money money. That's all they care about. They will do anything for a $1, like release a $50 expansion, then 2 weeks later change the entire game, making said expansion completely useless. They were the first to have Box price + expansions (that were content updates) + Cash Shop + Pay2Win....greed much?
Now for other games, Tera's claim to fame is the combat, but to many this was the worst part. Nothing like sitting there holding down a mouse button for 8 hours straight, occasionally pressing a button. The quests were extremely linear, and you had to do he quests, since grinding mobs were like 10% of the exp.
ToR was bad because of the rails. It didn't matter if you did space combat, questing, or even in pvp. Everything was on rails it seemed. You could not wonder off and explore the entire world you just landed on. Just a small few square miles at best. The dark/light side thing was just cosmetic and had no bearing on how people reacted to you. You'd think that if you were a Jedi with rank 10 darkside, people would cower in fear when you talked to them, but they just acted like you were the tooth fairy. I don't even need to go into space combat do I?
FFXIV doesn't really bring anything new, except SE went older school with it. Most people complaing and whatnot haven't made it past level 20 I'd bet. Later on, the game becomes pretty slowed down, which I like. It reminds me alot if you took FFXI and sprinkled in some EQ, Rift, and WoW. If you want a game you can "complete" in a weekend, then go back to consoles, MMOs aren't for you.
I kind of feel like I am being trolled here but I will bite anyway.
It has been a long time since I have actually felt this way about an mmo's release, maybe I am a little biased because I am a FF worshipper, however that's not all that appeals to me, yes the graphics are amazing, is there something wrong with enjoying a little eye candy?
That all being said why is this game such a big deal, maybe because Square finally pulled their heads out and gave a game worthy of the square name, what makes this game worthy, the Square quality in everything from story, graphics, sound, gameplay (this game is effing fun).
They have also perfected many things that so many games have tried and failed like your logs and achievements that are actually rewarding to complete, dailies ala guildleves are fun and worth while without feeling grindy. One of the best things is how they perfect the multi class and advanced class systems. They have also made an instanced world feel less instanced than some games (secret world and Tera being bad examples) They are emphasizing on making the adventure from 1 to cap exciting by way of storyline quests that are plain awesome to the class quests and dungeons.
Square is also making sure they perfect PvE before introducing PvP because they do not want to introduce sub par content, I am glad this company is trying successfully to redeem themselves and make Square a household name again and anyone who appreciates quality, fun, and a strong community will not only believe this game is better than Tera and Vanguard, but will stand by their opinion and support Square and this project 100%.
P.S. Square has made sub based gaming sexy again and I will not miss the modern day cash shop at all.
I agree, it's commendable when a company strives so hard to make a game that they can be proud of. They refused to release FFXIV 1.0 again, they turned coal into diamonds and hopefully are rewarded for it by the community of gamers who are sick and tired of devs who put out "good enough" content and not "to the best of our ability" content. What other game looks like this, runs at ridiculous (am I really getting these fps let me make sure FRAPS isn't bugged) fps, and has no lag even if 150,000 people are playing at the same time.
I agree, it's commendable when a company strives so hard to make a game that they can be proud of. They refused to release FFXIV 1.0 again, they turned coal into diamonds and hopefully are rewarded for it by the community of gamers who are sick and tired of devs who put out "good enough" content and not "to the best of our ability" content. What other game looks like this, runs at ridiculous (am I really getting these fps let me make sure FRAPS isn't bugged) fps, and has no lag even if 150,000 people are playing at the same time.
I agree with the statement about how this game run, this was a beta and I was running at max, given I do have a high end pc, but dang my fps were higher in this game than many mmo's with lesser graphic, nice job SE!
I kind of feel like I am being trolled here but I will bite anyway.
It has been a long time since I have actually felt this way about an mmo's release, maybe I am a little biased because I am a FF worshipper, however that's not all that appeals to me, yes the graphics are amazing, is there something wrong with enjoying a little eye candy?
That all being said why is this game such a big deal, maybe because Square finally pulled their heads out and gave a game worthy of the square name, what makes this game worthy, the Square quality in everything from story, graphics, sound, gameplay (this game is effing fun).
They have also perfected many things that so many games have tried and failed like your logs and achievements that are actually rewarding to complete, dailies ala guildleves are fun and worth while without feeling grindy. One of the best things is how they perfect the multi class and advanced class systems. They have also made an instanced world feel less instanced than some games (secret world and Tera being bad examples) They are emphasizing on making the adventure from 1 to cap exciting by way of storyline quests that are plain awesome to the class quests and dungeons.
Square is also making sure they perfect PvE before introducing PvP because they do not want to introduce sub par content, I am glad this company is trying successfully to redeem themselves and make Square a household name again and anyone who appreciates quality, fun, and a strong community will not only believe this game is better than Tera and Vanguard, but will stand by their opinion and support Square and this project 100%.
P.S. Square has made sub based gaming sexy again and I will not miss the modern day cash shop at all.
I agree, it's commendable when a company strives so hard to make a game that they can be proud of. They refused to release FFXIV 1.0 again, they turned coal into diamonds and hopefully are rewarded for it by the community of gamers who are sick and tired of devs who put out "good enough" content and not "to the best of our ability" content. What other game looks like this, runs at ridiculous (am I really getting these fps let me make sure FRAPS isn't bugged) fps, and has no lag even if 150,000 people are playing at the same time.
Yea this has blown my mind also (the whole fps thing) I am playing on Max settings on PC and even in Limsa by the Acn Guild with fifteen thousand carbuncles running around I still clock in around 54 fps which is absolutely amazing considering how much is going on ........ So far the only places where I drop down to around 50-55 fps is in certain areas of Limsa and In the forest surround girdania during the rain or thunderstorms but it has never dipped below 50 which is very impressive.
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As to the OP................................................................................................................................................. It is more popular because it's better than the games you listed. I played Tera ..... never got into vanguard and played Rift and Wow....... this game is leagues better than all of them. If they can keep up this quality and drop constant content this will be my game for years to come.
I kind of feel like I am being trolled here but I will bite anyway.
It has been a long time since I have actually felt this way about an mmo's release, maybe I am a little biased because I am a FF worshipper, however that's not all that appeals to me, yes the graphics are amazing, is there something wrong with enjoying a little eye candy?
That all being said why is this game such a big deal, maybe because Square finally pulled their heads out and gave a game worthy of the square name, what makes this game worthy, the Square quality in everything from story, graphics, sound, gameplay (this game is effing fun).
They have also perfected many things that so many games have tried and failed like your logs and achievements that are actually rewarding to complete, dailies ala guildleves are fun and worth while without feeling grindy. One of the best things is how they perfect the multi class and advanced class systems. They have also made an instanced world feel less instanced than some games (secret world and Tera being bad examples) They are emphasizing on making the adventure from 1 to cap exciting by way of storyline quests that are plain awesome to the class quests and dungeons.
Square is also making sure they perfect PvE before introducing PvP because they do not want to introduce sub par content, I am glad this company is trying successfully to redeem themselves and make Square a household name again and anyone who appreciates quality, fun, and a strong community will not only believe this game is better than Tera and Vanguard, but will stand by their opinion and support Square and this project 100%.
P.S. Square has made sub based gaming sexy again and I will not miss the modern day cash shop at all.
I agree, it's commendable when a company strives so hard to make a game that they can be proud of. They refused to release FFXIV 1.0 again, they turned coal into diamonds and hopefully are rewarded for it by the community of gamers who are sick and tired of devs who put out "good enough" content and not "to the best of our ability" content. What other game looks like this, runs at ridiculous (am I really getting these fps let me make sure FRAPS isn't bugged) fps, and has no lag even if 150,000 people are playing at the same time.
Yea this has blown my mind also (the whole fps thing) I am playing on Max settings on PC and even in Limsa by the Acn Guild with fifteen thousand carbuncles running around I still clock in around 54 fps which is absolutely amazing considering how much is going on ........ So far the only places where I drop down to around 50-55 fps is in certain areas of Limsa and In the forest surround girdania during the rain or thunderstorms but it has never dipped below 50 which is very impressive.
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As to the OP................................................................................................................................................. It is more popular because it's better than the games you listed. I played Tera ..... never got into vanguard and played Rift and Wow....... this game is leagues better than all of them. If they can keep up this quality and drop constant content this will be my game for years to come.
"This game is leagues better than all of them" best statement yet lol.
Not beat a dead horse he is not joking about the FPS I was at 60 give or take a few the entire time I played, and I played and I max everything out.
Throwing out the graphics/setting debate since that's really subjective I think it comes down to "quality of life" features that XIV brings that games like Vanguard just don't have. What most people want is a game where they can log in and play the game and not the interface. XIV doesn't do anything ground-breaking like others have stated but it's the subtle things that at least for me make it more enjoyable.
Things like auto-tagging mobs with a letter, target filters, auto-sorting loot, a well laid out but customizeable UI, a mmo that can actually be played well by a gamepad, and the list goes on but you get the point. It's polish. I love Vanguard but there were times I wanted to pull my hair out because of the issues that were never addressed. Yeah maybe the combat or crafting aren't as in depth based on my limited experience in XIV, but when my friends and I grouped up and played XIV this weekend we all felt within a couple hours the differences between this and other games.
This. It is the polish on the game. It has a vanilla WoW feel to it. Everything is silky smooth. Both my wife and I really enjoyed it.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
No cash shops, it's P2P, and looks way better then FF11 , so for me those are all BIG +'s. If this were to be a F2P cash shop MMO, I would of skipped it and waited on something else to release, but I'll give this one a shot and P2P!
Thank everyone for discussing why FF, and not Vanguard or Tera or SWTOR. I do find it interesting though that most people when they talked about FF talked about how well it was laid out, how logically managed it was, how one thing led to another etc. yep just like A major corporation, laid out in a perfectly logical manner but without a soul. Not one person commented that FF was FUN. Myself I will take a fun game with flaws than a Paint by the numbers soulless vessel. TOR for all its problems had great story lines and watchable cut scenes, Tera has quests like FF but exciting combat, and Vanguard has an explorable world (not zone,after zone, after zone, zzzzzzz) decent combat, excellent crafting, diplomacy(not seen in any other mmo), great dungeons, is both solo and group friendly. Does it have worts and some bugs yes, does it have an abundance of character compared to FF oh yes indeed. NO chocobos though LOL.
All that being said, FF is still a playable game, just I don't know, just bland
Thank everyone for discussing why FF, and not Vanguard or Tera or SWTOR. I do find it interesting though that most people when they talked about FF talked about how well it was laid out, how logically managed it was, how one thing led to another etc. yep just like A major corporation, laid out in a perfectly logical manner but without a soul. Not one person commented that FF was FUN. Myself I will take a fun game with flaws than a Paint by the numbers soulless vessel. TOR for all its problems had great story lines and watchable cut scenes, Tera has quests like FF but exciting combat, and Vanguard has an explorable world (not zone,after zone, after zone, zzzzzzz) decent combat, excellent crafting, diplomacy(not seen in any other mmo), great dungeons, is both solo and group friendly. Does it have worts and some bugs yes, does it have an abundance of character compared to FF oh yes indeed. NO chocobos though LOL.
All that being said, FF is still a playable game, just I don't know, just bland
I recall saying how fun it was even in my original post I said this game is effing fun and then proceed to give examples why, or maybe you forgot to read that, but it doesn't matter because one thing that makes our community is the lack of certain people.
Anyway enjoy your Tera and Vanguard, its good to know some people still support and play soe games someone has to keep keep incredibly bad f2p on the market and keep those certain types of people out of the good communities.
Thank everyone for discussing why FF, and not Vanguard or Tera or SWTOR. I do find it interesting though that most people when they talked about FF talked about how well it was laid out, how logically managed it was, how one thing led to another etc. yep just like A major corporation, laid out in a perfectly logical manner but without a soul. Not one person commented that FF was FUN. Myself I will take a fun game with flaws than a Paint by the numbers soulless vessel. TOR for all its problems had great story lines and watchable cut scenes, Tera has quests like FF but exciting combat, and Vanguard has an explorable world (not zone,after zone, after zone, zzzzzzz) decent combat, excellent crafting, diplomacy(not seen in any other mmo), great dungeons, is both solo and group friendly. Does it have worts and some bugs yes, does it have an abundance of character compared to FF oh yes indeed. NO chocobos though LOL.
All that being said, FF is still a playable game, just I don't know, just bland
I recall saying how fun it was even in my original post I said this game is effing fun and then proceed to give examples why, or maybe you forgot to read that, but it doesn't matter because one thing that makes our community is the lack of certain people.
Anyway enjoy your Tera and Vanguard, its good to know some people still support and play soe games someone has to keep keep incredibly bad f2p on the market and keep those certain types of people out of the good communities.
Yes, actually you did! Your examples did not inspire me though. How ever most gave examples of how logical and well laid out the game was. Yea poor Sony, they are going broke, maybe we should take a collection LOL. I guess you must be a big fan of WOW since they are not made by Sony and charge a monthly fee. OH wait, AC and AC2 charge a fee those games must be the Bomb! Sorry your logic is not quite as good as FF's logical well laid out game.
I thought FF was lots of fun! I played both a Mi'qote Arcanist and a Hyur Conjuror to level 9 (just enough to get past the first 'boss battles' but not the class ones), ran ALL OVER Limsa and Gridania, fought in several FATE's (which I really enjoyed), and ran into the occasionally-annoying-but-very-understandable hunt for some monsters I couldn't find sometimes (those Aurelai's, grrr!). There was a lot of 'learn the city' Fed Ex'ing, but I think that's better than being level 50 and -still- not knowing how to get around Orgrimmar because you've never had a reason to.
TERA's action combat was decent, but ultimately very hard on anyone whose wrists have been affected by things like RSI or whatnot in the past (like both of mine) -- especially as a warrior! FF's graphics were beautiful for me on standard desktop (I could go higher, but...why?) and they also run on my friend's 7 year old computer with a Q6600 quadcore. There is also the nature of things enjoyable about FF as a franchise (the artwork, the clothing styles, CHOCOBOS!, moogles, and so on) and the fact that crafting is so deep. The slow GCD seems 'boring' when you're just out dps'ing a mob, but get involved in a FATE with a bunch of underlevelled people and see how the slow GCD makes you be more aware about your attacks vs healing and when you can afford to do either.
I was a beta-tester and founder in TERA, and dropped it a month after the cash shop showed up. FF doesn't have a cash shop, and Yoshi indicates there won't be one. I dropped WoW for adding in a cash shop also after playing it for years. Yet another reason to choose FF over these other choices. While its always possible that, somewhere down the line, the game could shift into something different and disappoint me, I'm relatively confident it won't. So long as it remains p2p w/no CS and offers deep choices for both solo and group play, I see no reason to look elsewhere.
or Tera or even Tor. I can only think it is because people are graphic worshipers or have some type of idealized thought about FF. Of course when we play these games it is only natural to compare them to others we have played. Played TERA and TOR, this game is NOTHING like them. TERA is an action game with an open world, TOR is a storybook with levels.
I am not saying that ff is a terrible game just bland, ie mediocre. Yes the graphics are much better than the years old Vanguard but the crafting, combat, freedom (zones) diplomacy (one of a kind) exploration value, do not come close to Vanguard. Even Tera-both games have generic quests and both have great graphics but the combat is light years ahead in Tera. Even Tor with its average mmo mechanics has a much better quest system and cut scenes. Your tastes are yours, to you it is bland, to me it is a rich, deep, fun, and involving game.
I guess what I am asking is How could this game be more popular than Vanguard-beats me? I am guessing it is because we are living in the "Latest and Greatest" generation I do understand the latest, but where is the Greatest? Because Vanguard is nothing like this either? You are comparing completely different games, like asking why people play The Sims when they could be playing Terraria. It makes no sense.
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We're talking about combat in an online game, just because it's open world doesn't mean it's combat is automatically better.
Truth, this game is so well thought out, so well crafted, and attention given to every single detail that it has a quality that most MMOs take years to get.
Of course not, but comparing a lobby game to a full fledged MMO is absolutely idiotic. There are technical limitations that are bypassed by the extremely heavy use of instancing in lobby games. It's the same reason you don't compare single player gameplay to MMOs.
There are reasons why games like Vindictus and PSO use heavy lobby systems and not open world mechanics. So trying to hold that against a game like Tera, which is a completely different beast on a technical scale, is just utterly stupid.
I kind of feel like I am being trolled here but I will bite anyway.
It has been a long time since I have actually felt this way about an mmo's release, maybe I am a little biased because I am a FF worshipper, however that's not all that appeals to me, yes the graphics are amazing, is there something wrong with enjoying a little eye candy?
That all being said why is this game such a big deal, maybe because Square finally pulled their heads out and gave a game worthy of the square name, what makes this game worthy, the Square quality in everything from story, graphics, sound, gameplay (this game is effing fun).
They have also perfected many things that so many games have tried and failed like your logs and achievements that are actually rewarding to complete, dailies ala guildleves are fun and worth while without feeling grindy. One of the best things is how they perfect the multi class and advanced class systems. They have also made an instanced world feel less instanced than some games (secret world and Tera being bad examples) They are emphasizing on making the adventure from 1 to cap exciting by way of storyline quests that are plain awesome to the class quests and dungeons.
Square is also making sure they perfect PvE before introducing PvP because they do not want to introduce sub par content, I am glad this company is trying successfully to redeem themselves and make Square a household name again and anyone who appreciates quality, fun, and a strong community will not only believe this game is better than Tera and Vanguard, but will stand by their opinion and support Square and this project 100%.
P.S. Square has made sub based gaming sexy again and I will not miss the modern day cash shop at all.
If you say Tera combat is so 95' and PSO did it in 99', then what is FF oldschool, back to the roots tactical combat? 85'? You are trying to say the older is better, wait.. no, you just said old is bad.. I don't get it.
Basically to reiterate what many have said here already, it's Final Fantasy. MMO fans on here just don't seem to get it into their heads. A lot of long term fans are playing this game, not just a bunch of MMOers who play for a bit and say "lol this sucks" and then leave.
This series has a lot of loyal fans and they will play this game probably through thick and thin. Why do you think XI is still going? Besides the fact that it is a quality MMO, it is Final Fantasy and that name holds a lot of weight.
It's been said above, but for one it's Final Fantasy. I like Final Fantasy, it's graphics, games, everything.
Secondly in regards to Vanguard, it's not run by the worst Developer in the industry, SOE. SOE hasn't been good since EQ. They have extremely slow updates, and the updates break more than they fix usually. There are still bugs in Vanguard (as of 2 months ago) that were there at launch. Then there's the overall business sense that SOE has. Money money money. That's all they care about. They will do anything for a $1, like release a $50 expansion, then 2 weeks later change the entire game, making said expansion completely useless. They were the first to have Box price + expansions (that were content updates) + Cash Shop + Pay2Win....greed much?
Now for other games, Tera's claim to fame is the combat, but to many this was the worst part. Nothing like sitting there holding down a mouse button for 8 hours straight, occasionally pressing a button. The quests were extremely linear, and you had to do he quests, since grinding mobs were like 10% of the exp.
ToR was bad because of the rails. It didn't matter if you did space combat, questing, or even in pvp. Everything was on rails it seemed. You could not wonder off and explore the entire world you just landed on. Just a small few square miles at best. The dark/light side thing was just cosmetic and had no bearing on how people reacted to you. You'd think that if you were a Jedi with rank 10 darkside, people would cower in fear when you talked to them, but they just acted like you were the tooth fairy. I don't even need to go into space combat do I?
FFXIV doesn't really bring anything new, except SE went older school with it. Most people complaing and whatnot haven't made it past level 20 I'd bet. Later on, the game becomes pretty slowed down, which I like. It reminds me alot if you took FFXI and sprinkled in some EQ, Rift, and WoW. If you want a game you can "complete" in a weekend, then go back to consoles, MMOs aren't for you.
I agree, it's commendable when a company strives so hard to make a game that they can be proud of. They refused to release FFXIV 1.0 again, they turned coal into diamonds and hopefully are rewarded for it by the community of gamers who are sick and tired of devs who put out "good enough" content and not "to the best of our ability" content. What other game looks like this, runs at ridiculous (am I really getting these fps let me make sure FRAPS isn't bugged) fps, and has no lag even if 150,000 people are playing at the same time.
I agree with the statement about how this game run, this was a beta and I was running at max, given I do have a high end pc, but dang my fps were higher in this game than many mmo's with lesser graphic, nice job SE!
Yea this has blown my mind also (the whole fps thing) I am playing on Max settings on PC and even in Limsa by the Acn Guild with fifteen thousand carbuncles running around I still clock in around 54 fps which is absolutely amazing considering how much is going on ........ So far the only places where I drop down to around 50-55 fps is in certain areas of Limsa and In the forest surround girdania during the rain or thunderstorms but it has never dipped below 50 which is very impressive.
Edited to add:
As to the OP................................................................................................................................................. It is more popular because it's better than the games you listed. I played Tera ..... never got into vanguard and played Rift and Wow....... this game is leagues better than all of them. If they can keep up this quality and drop constant content this will be my game for years to come.
"This game is leagues better than all of them" best statement yet lol.
Not beat a dead horse he is not joking about the FPS I was at 60 give or take a few the entire time I played, and I played and I max everything out.
This. It is the polish on the game. It has a vanilla WoW feel to it. Everything is silky smooth. Both my wife and I really enjoyed it.
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Thank everyone for discussing why FF, and not Vanguard or Tera or SWTOR. I do find it interesting though that most people when they talked about FF talked about how well it was laid out, how logically managed it was, how one thing led to another etc. yep just like A major corporation, laid out in a perfectly logical manner but without a soul. Not one person commented that FF was FUN. Myself I will take a fun game with flaws than a Paint by the numbers soulless vessel. TOR for all its problems had great story lines and watchable cut scenes, Tera has quests like FF but exciting combat, and Vanguard has an explorable world (not zone,after zone, after zone, zzzzzzz) decent combat, excellent crafting, diplomacy(not seen in any other mmo), great dungeons, is both solo and group friendly. Does it have worts and some bugs yes, does it have an abundance of character compared to FF oh yes indeed. NO chocobos though LOL.
All that being said, FF is still a playable game, just I don't know, just bland
I recall saying how fun it was even in my original post I said this game is effing fun and then proceed to give examples why, or maybe you forgot to read that, but it doesn't matter because one thing that makes our community is the lack of certain people.
Anyway enjoy your Tera and Vanguard, its good to know some people still support and play soe games someone has to keep keep incredibly bad f2p on the market and keep those certain types of people out of the good communities.
Yes, actually you did! Your examples did not inspire me though. How ever most gave examples of how logical and well laid out the game was. Yea poor Sony, they are going broke, maybe we should take a collection LOL. I guess you must be a big fan of WOW since they are not made by Sony and charge a monthly fee. OH wait, AC and AC2 charge a fee those games must be the Bomb! Sorry your logic is not quite as good as FF's logical well laid out game.
I thought FF was lots of fun! I played both a Mi'qote Arcanist and a Hyur Conjuror to level 9 (just enough to get past the first 'boss battles' but not the class ones), ran ALL OVER Limsa and Gridania, fought in several FATE's (which I really enjoyed), and ran into the occasionally-annoying-but-very-understandable hunt for some monsters I couldn't find sometimes (those Aurelai's, grrr!). There was a lot of 'learn the city' Fed Ex'ing, but I think that's better than being level 50 and -still- not knowing how to get around Orgrimmar because you've never had a reason to.
TERA's action combat was decent, but ultimately very hard on anyone whose wrists have been affected by things like RSI or whatnot in the past (like both of mine) -- especially as a warrior! FF's graphics were beautiful for me on standard desktop (I could go higher, but...why?) and they also run on my friend's 7 year old computer with a Q6600 quadcore. There is also the nature of things enjoyable about FF as a franchise (the artwork, the clothing styles, CHOCOBOS!, moogles, and so on) and the fact that crafting is so deep. The slow GCD seems 'boring' when you're just out dps'ing a mob, but get involved in a FATE with a bunch of underlevelled people and see how the slow GCD makes you be more aware about your attacks vs healing and when you can afford to do either.
I was a beta-tester and founder in TERA, and dropped it a month after the cash shop showed up. FF doesn't have a cash shop, and Yoshi indicates there won't be one. I dropped WoW for adding in a cash shop also after playing it for years. Yet another reason to choose FF over these other choices. While its always possible that, somewhere down the line, the game could shift into something different and disappoint me, I'm relatively confident it won't. So long as it remains p2p w/no CS and offers deep choices for both solo and group play, I see no reason to look elsewhere.