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For those afraid of open world PvP...
VintzQc
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Hey, guys are tired of getting whacked by a player 34 levels higher than you? Want to stand a chance in any PvP situation? Why didn't developpers fixed this open world PvP problem of ganking lower level players by simply : Not allowing a character to engage combat onto another character if this one has no chance of winning.
Be that by level or gear comparison, i guess that'll be simple enough to implement in games. Jeez they invented those honorable kills, now is the time for dishonorable kill protection.
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When you start placing restrictions to PvP, is it truly open world anymore?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Well if it's a flag system it's still open world pvp. Atleast those who are into PVP can have their fun. Those who want to grief or slay another player 30 levels below them arn't really pvp players so no worries about them.
What defines "no chance of winning"? Levels are almost meaningless, your skills and build mean jack. What matters is player skill, and truth be told; you can'g gauge that.
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Because that makes no goddamn sense?
It's a valid design decision for any given game, but it takes away from immersion quite considerably, personally.
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That's also why I've always believe that Open PvP games aren't Solo games. Its best to run as a group and get into a guild.
That way, if someone ganks you, can can track their sorry butts down in-game and: crap on their lawn, kick the vanity kitty pet, skin their mount, and toilet paper their house.
Afterwards, you can bind camp them and force them to rage quit.
Raquelis in various games
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It's really down to how you define things. For a lot of posters here, FFA PvP is an assumed part of "open world PvP". Without that assumption the number of games that would be considered to have "open world PvP" grows a lot. eg. WoW PvE servers allow PvP between flagged players outside battlegrounds.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Inside the mind of an open world PvP player.......
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
I've always felt they should have a pvp stat that never changes and pve that progresses through levels. So if you're attacking a player, your gear uses the default pvp stat, and if you're attacking an npc mob the game uses your pve gear. The gear wouldn't change, it would just show both stats. It puts everyone on even ground when it comes to PvP...which should be about fighting other players not grinding better gear and still lets you have progression through pve content.
You'd also never have to worry about high lvls ganking low lvls because the pvp part wouldn't have any levels. PvP gear should be cosmetic, not better stats.
Thats a pretty good idea. Make all players have equal PvP stats. Brilliant!!
Except for 2 problems I see.
1. The cheats will come up with a hack
2. People with less skill will lose and eventually rage quit leading to a low pop.
Its inevitable in PvP no matter how you spin it.
FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!
http://anarchyonline.wikia.com/wiki/PvP
You cannot fight any other player you meet, your opponent needs to be in your level range. Pvp range is a bit wider then teaming range. General formula for calculating your pvp range is:
minimum level you can PvP with = your level * 0.8 (ie. level 100 can pvp with lvl 80, but cant pvp with lvl 79)
maximum level you can PvP with = your level / 0.8 (ie. level 100 can pvp with lvl 125, but cant pvp with lvl 126So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
**On the radar: http://www.cyberpunk.net/ **
Back in the day, in Shadowbane. Had a team from another guild roll in and attack one of our leveling groups and waste them.
The next day, we torched their city.
Good times!
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Ok I thin I have mentioned this before but we need to get our terms straight in the board..
OMG!
Open world and FFA PvP are two completly seperate things
FFA(free for all )
open world(no level pathing)
a FFA open world is a compete idea as well but open world does not mean of its own FFA PvP.
i wish pvp wouldve just stayed a fps thing trying to force it in to the mmo genre has been nothing but a disaster.
keep your peanut butter out of my chocolate!
What you are saying is something like " I wish there was no war in middle earth"
or "Klingons were actually hippies"
These wars are the base building material for many many great stories in fantasy worlds.
So, did ESO have a successful launch? Yes, yes it did.By Ryan Getchell on April 02, 2014.
**On the radar: http://www.cyberpunk.net/ **
Ultimately, FFA Open world PvP is about making the other players stop PvPing as this is the only way to win.
nope, npc's handle those thing just fine. its the players in pvp that makes it suck
Not nessasarily true...
If you add in full loot it becomes a finite battle or in certain circumstanced a bank vault war.
could scale the characters to the level of the zone, similar to how it is in GW2.
Nope. Can't call it open if the doors are shut and locked.