Originally posted by Pigglesworth Or just buy it from another player and you do not have to go near PvP.
This falls in to the monopoly scheme though.
EVE Online is a premium example. Technetium for years was under a monopoly and Goons built a war chest so vast they will never be unseated. They 'won' EVE for all intent and purpose. That's what happens when you put mechanics exclusively in the hands of players. They control it. I don't want to hate on Goons in EVE, they said years ago it was going to make them unstoppable. They said they shouldn't have been in the position they were in but the mechanic was there and never should have been.
Even Perpetuum saw the flaw and added random rare variants to their PvP exclusive mats. EVE in time saw the flaw, all be it too late and changed the moon ratio's.
TESO doesn't even need to make the mistake. They know if they allow monopoly it will lead to balance issues that will result in players gating other players through monopoly with no recourse but to pay ransom.
Anyone can go into the PVE dungeons in cyrodiil and grab the mats. Not really any way to monopolize that.
When I entered this conversation, the proposal was that the mats were in a PvP zone and you would need to control that zone to gather the mats.
So you just 180'ed the information. As I understand it they will have PvP zone, exclusive mats.
the problem is as it has been explained (somewhat vaguely), crafting is o.k. as long as you are crafting for you and yours but a big part of crafting is selling to others (or, GETTING' RICH!)
for this you have to belong to a guild - a guild that participates in PVP - a guild that is good at PVP and OWNS whatever area you have to own in order to get that precious shop - meh
Personally I'm surprised that they already have a release date set for a few months from now and still don't even have crafting implemented and testable yet. Look at Wildstar, they released a few game systems to testing, got bad feedback, then completely revamped those systems. They are still doing that, lol. But with this there will be no opportunity for that sort of thing if the crafting system is terrible because they are already locked into a release date.
TESO doesn't even need to make the mistake. They know if they allow monopoly it will lead to balance issues that will result in players gating other players through monopoly with no recourse but to pay ransom.
Anyone can go into the PVE dungeons in cyrodiil and grab the mats. Not really any way to monopolize that.
When I entered this conversation, the proposal was that the mats were in a PvP zone and you would need to control that zone to gather the mats.
So you just 180'ed the information. As I understand it they will have PvP zone, exclusive mats.
That because Cyrodiil operates differently than PVP areas in other MMOs. Cyrodiil is an expansive area. The keep battles are only a portion of Cyrodiil. The crafting mats will not come from the keep battles themselves. They come from the PVE areas within Cyrodiil. There are 5 PVE towns and several PVE dungeons inside Cyrodiil. You can do PVE and PVP quests from the quest givers in the towns and also gather materials in the PVE dungeons. Now, I am calling them PVE towns/dungeons because most of what you will do there is fight NPCs and gather resources. However, since they are in Cyrodiil, which is a PVP place, you can still be attacked by other players.
So, yes, there will be high-end crafting mats, exclusive to Cyrodiil, but you do not have to PVP in order to get them. You just complete the PVE quests and dungeons to gather the materials. However, there is added danger of being attacked by players while doing this.
You, theoretically, you do not have to engage in PVP to get these crafting mats from Cyrodiil. Also, if you do not want to enter the PVP areas at all, you can still buy them from other players. My wife and I will definitely be spending a lot of time gathering these mats and will always sell them at fair market prices.
So, no, there mats will not be able to be monopolized by PVP players.
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When I entered this conversation, the proposal was that the mats were in a PvP zone and you would need to control that zone to gather the mats.
So you just 180'ed the information. As I understand it they will have PvP zone, exclusive mats.
all the above is well and good (or not)
the problem is as it has been explained (somewhat vaguely), crafting is o.k. as long as you are crafting for you and yours but a big part of crafting is selling to others (or, GETTING' RICH!)
for this you have to belong to a guild - a guild that participates in PVP - a guild that is good at PVP and OWNS whatever area you have to own in order to get that precious shop - meh
That because Cyrodiil operates differently than PVP areas in other MMOs. Cyrodiil is an expansive area. The keep battles are only a portion of Cyrodiil. The crafting mats will not come from the keep battles themselves. They come from the PVE areas within Cyrodiil. There are 5 PVE towns and several PVE dungeons inside Cyrodiil. You can do PVE and PVP quests from the quest givers in the towns and also gather materials in the PVE dungeons. Now, I am calling them PVE towns/dungeons because most of what you will do there is fight NPCs and gather resources. However, since they are in Cyrodiil, which is a PVP place, you can still be attacked by other players.
So, yes, there will be high-end crafting mats, exclusive to Cyrodiil, but you do not have to PVP in order to get them. You just complete the PVE quests and dungeons to gather the materials. However, there is added danger of being attacked by players while doing this.
You, theoretically, you do not have to engage in PVP to get these crafting mats from Cyrodiil. Also, if you do not want to enter the PVP areas at all, you can still buy them from other players. My wife and I will definitely be spending a lot of time gathering these mats and will always sell them at fair market prices.
So, no, there mats will not be able to be monopolized by PVP players.
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