Originally posted by snow529 From the leak footage from twitch, I will say TERA for dungeons and combat system, TES for story/lore, and GW2 WvW for PvP. Skilltrees? None of the leak footage I saw showed it.
I would say that ESO and GW2 get their inspiration from the same source.
Originally posted by Distopia A weird mix of DAOC and TES.
This.
I don't see how anyone can get the feel of Swtor or WoW from this game, at all. It seems the games enough of its own, whilst drawing direction from some older titles. I will be living in Cyrodil, if what I hear is correct.
Back in the day did people complain that WoW wasn't a real warcraft game because it wasn't rts (or had some other missing element) like the previous warcraft games?
Back in the day did people complain that WoW wasn't a real warcraft game because it wasn't rts (or had some other missing element) like the previous warcraft games?
Back in the day did people complain that WoW wasn't a real warcraft game because it wasn't rts (or had some other missing element) like the previous warcraft games?
Was he complaining or just describing?
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
Originally posted by snow529 From the leak footage from twitch, I will say TERA for dungeons and combat system, TES for story/lore, and GW2 WvW for PvP. Skilltrees? None of the leak footage I saw showed it.
I would say that ESO and GW2 get their inspiration from the same source.
He was the man that brought Atlantis to the realms of Camelot..
which is the 2nd greatest failure in mmo history after NGE.
Felucca/Trammel was worse than ToA, but not as bad as NGE
That's.... hmmm... probably pretty accurate, imo. I may have to say trammel was worse simply because it seems to have kind of set that precedent of just taking the easy way out to appease fans in a shallow way. NGE kind of just killed SWG, which was a huge deal, don't get my wrong, I'm just not sure it had as much influence outside of SWG. I'm by no means an expert on SWG/NGE though, this is just my take on the situation.
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by zimike From what I gather from public released information, this game is basically a skinned over version of GW2.
There is enough release information to ensure anyone who looks even lightly, that the only things shared by ESO and Gw2 is the limited abilities. No .. the WvW area isn't similar to Gw2.
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
SO you're telling me what my own impression was? Okay...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
SO you're telling me what my own impression was? Okay...
What systems in the game do you think are like Elder Scrolls games?
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
SO you're telling me what my own impression was? Okay...
What systems in the game do you think are like Elder Scrolls games?
You know damn well I can't answer that.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
SO you're telling me what my own impression was? Okay...
What systems in the game do you think are like Elder Scrolls games?
You know damn well I can't answer that.
He's just fishing like the rest of them. It's funny when you read posts you know that people are speaking from experience while others are full of it.
So, do you think the game is like the Elder Scrolls games? Have you even played it?
A person who would like to play it again will not answer this question in any detail, a person who doesn't will, it basically boils down to who had their interest piqued or not.
As we know with forums dislike and like often drift into the realm of all bad or all good. When NDA drops I'll lay out exactly what I find appealing and exactly what I don't, as I have no pony in any gaming race.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So, do you think the game is like the Elder Scrolls games? Have you even played it?
A person who would like to play it again will not answer this question in any detail, a person who doesn't will, it basically boils down to who had their interest piqued or not.
As we know with forums dislike and like often drift into the realm of all bad or all good. When NDA drops I'll lay out exactly what I find appealing and exactly what I don't, as I have no pony in any gaming race.
I don't think people should make a value judgement about the game based on how much it is or is not like previous Elder Scrolls games. Whether or not someone has their interest piqued can be independent of how similar the games are. And this is why I found that next posters post so strange. He was making an argument about why we should not bias our judgement of the MMORPG version of Elder Scrolls to the single player experiences and used Warcraft as the example.
There was no value judgement made on whether or not this made the game good or bad. I agree with him that it's not like an Elder Scrolls game, but I sort of agree with you as well. It has the artwork and the lore style, but I don't see any other similarities. So if you feel like other systems are like previous games in the Elder Scrolls series, we just disagree there.
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
He's saying the exact same thing you were -that is isn't an Elder Scrolls game.
It is an Elder Scrolls Game.
Well, okay. It's called Elder Scrolls Online but is made by a different development company and is an MMORPG instead of a single player game and shares almost no similar qualities to Elder Scrolls games with the exception of the artwork and the lore. But yeah, you're right, it's called Elder Scrolls Online. I concede that if his statement was taken literally there is a strong argument that points towards it being an "Elder Scrolls" game.
That actually might end up being a problem for a lot of people to be honest because their expectations will be so twisted up. A lot of the backlash that has been happening is likely exactly because they named it "Elder Scrolls Online" instead of something like "Tamriel Reborn" to help push people into understanding that the game isn't going to carry over like they might have thought.
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
He's saying the exact same thing you were -that is isn't an Elder Scrolls game.
Which would be complaining. You know who gets to decide what an Elder Scolls game is? The people who own the IP. Anyone can say SWTOR isn't a Star Wars game because it doesn't have xyz but tough luck, you don't own the IP. The difference between Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft is orders of magnitude greater than the difference between Skyrim and ESO, does that magically make it not a Warcraft game?
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
No, it wouldn't.
He's saying the exact same thing you were -that is isn't an Elder Scrolls game.
Which would be complaining. You know who gets to decide what an Elder Scolls game is? The people who own the IP. Anyone can say SWTOR isn't a Star Wars game because it doesn't have xyz but tough luck, you don't own the IP. The difference between Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft is orders of magnitude greater than the difference between Skyrim and ESO, does that magically make it not a Warcraft game?
Yeah, I would say that when describing World of Warcraft (especially pre-release), it would be perfectly fair and normal to say the only thing that the two games share is lore and art style. In every other way the games are dissimilar. This is not a Warcraft game.
And I agree they can call it whatever they want. I mean, if that's why it got hung up, fine. It's an Elder Scrolls game that doesn't play anything like previous Elder Scrolls games. Which, by the way, is completely fine with me. The thread was about what the game resembles. When it comes to what ESO resembles artistically, I'd say Elder Scrolls. Everything else is not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense.
Maybe LOTRO and Neverwinter but it really is an odd beast that has not distinct resemblance. Which is why what people say it resembles is all over the place.
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Felucca/Trammel was worse than ToA, but not as bad as NGE
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This.
I don't see how anyone can get the feel of Swtor or WoW from this game, at all. It seems the games enough of its own, whilst drawing direction from some older titles. I will be living in Cyrodil, if what I hear is correct.
^
Back in the day did people complain that WoW wasn't a real warcraft game because it wasn't rts (or had some other missing element) like the previous warcraft games?
Was he complaining or just describing?
Technically it would be description followed by complaining.
That's.... hmmm... probably pretty accurate, imo. I may have to say trammel was worse simply because it seems to have kind of set that precedent of just taking the easy way out to appease fans in a shallow way. NGE kind of just killed SWG, which was a huge deal, don't get my wrong, I'm just not sure it had as much influence outside of SWG. I'm by no means an expert on SWG/NGE though, this is just my take on the situation.
No, it wouldn't.
He's saying the exact same thing you were -that is isn't an Elder Scrolls game.
The problem is his declaration, an impression is an individual thing, especially when it comes to what a TES game is, I'd disagree with a declaration that this game has no TES feel, based on my own impression.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
There is enough release information to ensure anyone who looks even lightly, that the only things shared by ESO and Gw2 is the limited abilities. No .. the WvW area isn't similar to Gw2.
The guy I quoted went on to explain how ridiculous it would be to compare ESO to the Elder Scrolls series. After all, WoW was based on the Warcraft series and no one expected it to be like that.
The only thing in this game that is like the Elder Scrolls is the lore and some of the artwork. Other than that, it is not an Elder Scrolls game and just like people are saying, it should not be expected to be one.
Really, the gameplay is almost just like NDA NDA NDA NDA, and the crafting feels just like NDA NDA NDA.
It is just a rehash of NDA NDA NDA, with a NDA skin on it.
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SO you're telling me what my own impression was? Okay...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
What systems in the game do you think are like Elder Scrolls games?
You know damn well I can't answer that.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
He's just fishing like the rest of them. It's funny when you read posts you know that people are speaking from experience while others are full of it.
So, do you think the game is like the Elder Scrolls games? Have you even played it?
A person who would like to play it again will not answer this question in any detail, a person who doesn't will, it basically boils down to who had their interest piqued or not.
As we know with forums dislike and like often drift into the realm of all bad or all good. When NDA drops I'll lay out exactly what I find appealing and exactly what I don't, as I have no pony in any gaming race.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I don't think people should make a value judgement about the game based on how much it is or is not like previous Elder Scrolls games. Whether or not someone has their interest piqued can be independent of how similar the games are. And this is why I found that next posters post so strange. He was making an argument about why we should not bias our judgement of the MMORPG version of Elder Scrolls to the single player experiences and used Warcraft as the example.
There was no value judgement made on whether or not this made the game good or bad. I agree with him that it's not like an Elder Scrolls game, but I sort of agree with you as well. It has the artwork and the lore style, but I don't see any other similarities. So if you feel like other systems are like previous games in the Elder Scrolls series, we just disagree there.
It is an Elder Scrolls Game. It's a game set in the Elder Scrolls universe.
Well, okay. It's called Elder Scrolls Online but is made by a different development company and is an MMORPG instead of a single player game and shares almost no similar qualities to Elder Scrolls games with the exception of the artwork and the lore. But yeah, you're right, it's called Elder Scrolls Online. I concede that if his statement was taken literally there is a strong argument that points towards it being an "Elder Scrolls" game.
That actually might end up being a problem for a lot of people to be honest because their expectations will be so twisted up. A lot of the backlash that has been happening is likely exactly because they named it "Elder Scrolls Online" instead of something like "Tamriel Reborn" to help push people into understanding that the game isn't going to carry over like they might have thought.
Which would be complaining. You know who gets to decide what an Elder Scolls game is? The people who own the IP. Anyone can say SWTOR isn't a Star Wars game because it doesn't have xyz but tough luck, you don't own the IP. The difference between Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft is orders of magnitude greater than the difference between Skyrim and ESO, does that magically make it not a Warcraft game?
Yeah, I would say that when describing World of Warcraft (especially pre-release), it would be perfectly fair and normal to say the only thing that the two games share is lore and art style. In every other way the games are dissimilar. This is not a Warcraft game.
And I agree they can call it whatever they want. I mean, if that's why it got hung up, fine. It's an Elder Scrolls game that doesn't play anything like previous Elder Scrolls games. Which, by the way, is completely fine with me. The thread was about what the game resembles. When it comes to what ESO resembles artistically, I'd say Elder Scrolls. Everything else is not Elder Scrolls in the traditional sense.