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and both those games had less then 10,000 players when they shut down. SWTOR has over 1 million players making it the second largest western MMO. Why would they shut it down?
Fun Fact: EVE online and DC Universe Online both have 1 server each, and are still running with more players than either game you mentioned ever had.
What point were you trying to make? lol
Of course it's a half a year old, that's back when the story broke and it was everywhere.
With the noticable drop in the quality of writing/storytelling at the start of Cata it was very clear that Blizzard's best creatives had been reassigned to Titan. Then several years later Blizzard came to their senses and realized no one wanted a new tab target themepark with stylized graphics because just about everyone who did want that was already playing WoW... well that and they realized just how many more years they could keep milking WoW... Blizzard is simply doing the smart thing and letting WoW earn them a ton of money while they sit back and see where the market is going.
well to be fair we have no idea on what Titan was exactly and what they changed about it. Blizzard has done this in the past many times before both with Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 most recentely.
If I had to guess I would say Titan was scraped to make it F2P from the start.
okay. so the BEST mmo is the one , with LEAST players then
so, when youre losing, you can just shout GODWINs LAW, and youre out? nice
damonviles link was the frst semi-official statement, ive read on the subject
i used common sense, and i was right
when starting a big new project, they will use the best workers, they have= wows top crew
they wont link it, for obvious reason
only, when their plan failed, did they mumble something, about resource relocation
Fix the F2P system. You can't force people to buy certain things to play your name normal. You need your game to be actually free, and allow people to buy bonus items from the cash shop. I am not saying a B2P either. I am saying fashion, cool accessories, exp bonus, etc. I don't need an exp bonus or cool fashion items to play the game legit, what I do need is the loot that I got from doing a dungeon that is purple, that in their *now* ""F2P"" you cannot use. If you make the game actually playable through the F2P system, you will get more players. From this you get more players that want to spend money, so in the end you are making money.
Am I saying to take away the subscription, heck no, keep it there with extra great perks, don't force people to sub just to play the damn game. If they would learn these easy few things, I feel that they would have a larger player base, including myself. As it stands right now, I won't play till they fix the F2P, I subbed for 8 months, and it isn't worth the sub anymore. They took away the PvP for the F2P players pretty much, so I won't play till that is fixed.
Just my thoughts on what they need to do.
out? no Im still waiting for you to tell me what STO has added to its game that some how beats SWTORs 6 week content cycle.
I guess you didn't read what Damonviles said cause he wasn't agree with you in anyway.
Here's the thing if WoW was ever on a skeleton crew then its safe to reason that the content cycle would have gotten longer right? As in they have only a few people working on it so there should be less content coming out?
Well the probelm is WoW's content cycle didn't change they kept releaseing the same amount of content.
STO practically doubled its content with legacy of romulus
theyve addded a Whole Space sector, with , roughly 15 new planets
a new game mechanic, Warp cores
a new map with fighter battles
tons of fleet stuff..fleet ships, fleet starbases, fleet mines
theyve tweaked the engine, for smoother gameplay
a new playable faction
tons of new ships
wows content cycle didnt get longer, because they simply lowered the quality
i know, he didnt, but his link did prove my point:
wow WAS on a skeleton crew, that prolly stopped 6 months ago
but they didnt say anything , about the crew RETURNING to wow , either
im guessing so. but i dont know
PS i would really like to get my hands of some of STOs epixx
but, do i want to grind the same maps , over, and over, to get them? hell no
thats the problem with PW..theyre the true masters of grind
PPS TWO PWI ads on the same page .isnt that illegal? if not, then it prolly should be
do they really NEED the Money, or do they just WANT it?
First off you didn't read the article he linked it doesn't say what you think it says. It says they had a team of 100 developers working on titan and then it was reduced to 70 meaning 30 of those developers went to other projects. Not 30 went back to WoW. Remember Blizzard is developing 5 games right now. Titan, Heroes of the Storm, WoW Warlords of Dranor, Star Crat 2 Protos expansion, and Diablo 3 expansion.
So i decided to take a look at your claims of STO and guess what I found out... you lie.
The Romulan patch came out over a year ago.
15 planets? I only found 1 planet you can actually visit the rest are just floating in space and you can orbit. If this doubled the games content then I feel sorry for STO that means it has less content then 1 pacth of SWTOR.
As for WoWs quallity ? Sorry but Mists of Pandara is their best expansion yet. The quality improved drasticaly.
You are getting confused with Season 7 New Romulus
Legacy of Romulus, which Simplius is on about, was released on May 21st 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Online#Expansion_pack:_Legacy_of_Romulus
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Actually on the Wow front, they de-prioritized Titan. They sad just recently that WoD has the largest team they've ever had develop content for WoW. They are throwing everything and the kitchen sink at it. Most of the resources came from Titan.
I too am curious about Tor. Looking for something to tide me over until the spring. I've been looking into:
TOR (played at release)
FF ARR (no xp)
GW2 (played at release)
oh wow it was an expansion? That's even less stuff then Makeb.
Not Really. It put out enough content to cover levelling a new Romulan toon from 1 to 50. Makeb only covered 5 levels
It increased the whole content by about 33%
Imagine SWTOR with an added faction of four more classes, with more storylines, that is what STO got with Legacy of Romulus
Season 7: New Romulus was more like Makeb - adding an extra planet with more quests.
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No in no way was season 7 like Makeb and yes I read what was added in the "expansion" its less stuff then Makeb.
I've done the leveling experience in STO for the Federation... yeah that's not a lot of content
Fact still stands SWTOR puts out more content per year then STO
doodphace never said the game was making a profit, so i have no clue where you think you see him say that. What he said was most MMORPG's dream of having 1 million active accounts as most MMORPG's have between 100k - 150k accounts. Does having 1 million active accounts mean the game is making a profit? No. Does it mean its a success among the fans that play it? Yes. These are 2 completely different topics. So please do yourself a favor and try not to mix them up.
"Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"
Not really, and Life Day event was a joke, just chucking snowballs at people, STO added in a whole new area.
What was the anniversary event like in SWTOR? STO added in a whole new mission last year which loads of free goodies and got Denise Crosby to voice it. It will be interesting to see what they have planned this year. Michael Dorn reprised his role as Worf in a new mission just before christmas. STO is definatley getting more attention than SWTOR is, or has any of the Star Wars actors done anything for SWTOR recently?
Most of the stuff that has been added to SWTOR is just basic stuff, that even the lamest of missions done by players in SWG using the Chronicles system was more complex.
EDIT: Forgot STO also added a beautifully stunning new Resort in the summer, where you could get Jet Packs and fly about the place, which Bounty Hunters are dying for! STO continues to amaze with what they can do with the game, SWTOR stuff is just meh, as the game is rigid and can not be updated much with totally new stuff
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Life day isn't really an event and doing stuff for anniveries are kind of rare. WoW for example has only ever celebrated its 5th year anniversery.
Of course you ignore the pretty amazing Bounty Hunter Event in SWTOR or the amazing Gree or the upcoming Return of the Rakgouhl events.
I looked at the patch notes that annivery event was just them relasing their yearly content update. It seems that STO is down to 1 content patch or "Season" a year.
and those seasons are small on content.
Getting failed Star Trek actors isn't what I would be boasting about. That would be like SWTOR being proud that they managed to get the voice of Jar Jar binks in the game.
oh BS basic stuff my asss SWG never had a mission anywhere near as good as the most basic SWTOR mission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOXm2hstE4
SO EXCITING!! Can't imagnine how SWG ever failed
Oh check this out. STO JUST GOT A CUSTMIZABLE UI ROFL talk about basic stuff It took STO 3 years to get a custimizable interface.
Ok that kind of ended the disscusion on STO getting new amazing content out ROFL
edit wait Denise Crosby? All of her characters are supposed to be dead WTF? Is STO lore breaking?
well, a recolored piece of armor is CONTENT too..technically
you got a link , and, it did , what i expected..nothing
some people just dont wanna look at the bear , before he takes a bite
the UI upgrade happened a long time ago
if you had actually played the game, you would know, that STO is happening in a "alternate timeline"
its told in the intro, voiced by spock himself
they prolly did that , to have free hands , and disregard any LORE , that might be unpractical
PS about the lore..an axe wielding, lesbian jedi master in lingerie..oh yea
no the UI upgrade happend in 2013.
Alternate time line oh dear god so more lore breaking
Yeah nothing about a axe wielding lesbian jedi master in lingerie is lore breaking. One of the most iconic images of all of Science Fiction is Slave Leia wieldiing a pole arm. There's your Jedi in lingerie wielding an axe
http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110720211347/slaveleia/images/f/f4/Leia_Attacks_Skiff_Guard.jpg
Despite preferring SWTOR over STO, I do play the latter once in a while and there really is a shite ton of stuff to do imo. I don't know the rate of new content but since beta and launch....it seems to have tripled to quadrupled at least. Not necessarily actual "world" volume but stuff you can do in the "world". Still sucks that both games are so piecemealed though. Neither truly feel like a whole living and continuous universe imo. They lack a "connection" factor and sense of wonder and exploration. If that makes any sense. Of course, so does my life in general at this point. lolbwoti. (laughing out loud but weeping on the inside)
I have to disagree with WOW as well..they usually have events going on for various holidays or seasons. There is a carnival..a Halloween type event...stuff going down on Christmas, valentines day I believe. Even Brewfest which may or may not be part of the Halloween season event. RIFT and GW2 are always doing seasonal stuff. LOTRO. There are really quite a few so they are not as rare as you may believe.
2013 was LAST YEAR
AFAIK leia wasnt a lesbian
and , she didnt become a jedi , for many years
she , certainly , isnt a jedi on this picture
and, she isnt wielding an axe , either
at least, they TRIED to explain something
STOs basic lore is: what do we have resources for? what can we sell?
then, they base the mission/episode on that calculation
remember kirks first fight against a gorn?
that is LORE
it is also HORRIBLE
we are talking specifically about the anniversery. Not just seasonal events. WoW doesn't do anything for its anniversy it does do things for seasonal events.
but when it comes to seasonal events Every MMO starts off with only a few seasonal events and they grow them. SWTOR is no different. SWTOR is building a nice collection of events. Right now it has the Bounty Hunter event which is similar to WoWs Dark Moon Faire. They have the Rakghoul event and the Gree event. They did do the Cheven event but i don't know if they are going to do that again.
However the problem with seasonal events in SWTOR comes in how do you do events that are galaxy wide? You can't do thanksgiving or Halloween. So they do what they are doing with the Rahkgoul and Gree and so on.