Originally posted by SuperNick Your opinions are duly noted, we'll see in 6 months.
ehm try to go on their own forum and look how many people are hating on it already..
just look at the DLC CRAP..
So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
Originally posted by boxsnd Probably 6 months, 1 year at most. It just doesn't have the quality to be a P2P game. I'm not even sure it can survive as a F2P. Most F2Ps have better combat/animations/UI/questing.
No MMO has ever gone f2p in less than 12 months so it's not going to happen.
Wrong . SWTOR Failed after 1month or so and had to go F2P after 4 months or so
not really sure in that but alot of games fails within 1st year
Star wars launched December 20th 2011 and went f2p November 15 2012. 11 months.
ye i kinda messed up abit lol but still it went under after 11months but it already failed after 1 and they lost quite alot of money on it
I think if they dont implement large scale pvp (not lame 30 man wow bg style) but something alone the lines of daoc or gw2) in the early months it will lose its pop from boredom after content locusts finish with it.
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I'm unsure. I'd really like to share my personal opinions about my beta experiences. I won't buy the game because their directions are not, in my eyes justifiable, and sometimes you have to place principles above entertainment. But I've still played the beta and I'm both very pleased and very disappointed. I don't think ESO will be a major player in the genre but it'll stick around for long, of that I'm sure. As to whether it'll go F2P or not.. I'm not a fan of the F2P model and thus I'd like the game to succeed and stay a P2P game. But I don't think it will.. Honestly, I agree with AngryJoe when he said something like 'A discount version of Elder Scrolls' and it's attempt to be both an ES game and a MMO will determine whether or not it'll remain a P2P game
Originally posted by SuperNick Your opinions are duly noted, we'll see in 6 months.
ehm try to go on their own forum and look how many people are hating on it already..
just look at the DLC CRAP..
So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
what do u think happend with SWTOR again i apply?
people bought that crappy game and thought it was good and it failed hard. m
same will happen with Teso oh and also look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
as i said TESO is over Hyped by tons of fans and is not as good as they said..
Who are we kidding? this is the company that has flip-floped so much it isnt funny. They are obviously going to announce before they release that they have fliped to the f2p model.
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Originally posted by Calven I'm unsure. I'd really like to share my personal opinions about my beta experiences. I won't buy the game because their directions are not, in my eyes justifiable, and sometimes you have to place principles above entertainment. But I've still played the beta and I'm both very pleased and very disappointed. I don't think ESO will be a major player in the genre but it'll stick around for long, of that I'm sure. As to whether it'll go F2P or not.. I'm not a fan of the F2P model and thus I'd like the game to succeed and stay a P2P game. But I don't think it will.. Honestly, I agree with AngryJoe when he said something like 'A discount version of Elder Scrolls' and it's attempt to be both an ES game and a MMO will determine whether or not it'll remain a P2P game
Agreed lol the game is just not what it's said to be
Who are we kidding? this is the company that has flip-floped so much it isnt funny. They are obviously going to announce before they release that they have fliped to the f2p model.
no Kidding lol Pay 100$ + to play one extra race No thanks..
If it lasts as P2P for over a year i would be surprised.
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So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
what do u think happend with SWTOR again i apply?
people bought that crappy game and thought it was good and it failed hard. m
same will happen with Teso oh and also look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
as i said TESO is over Hyped by tons of fans and is not as good as they said..
So, SWTOR failed therefore this game will fail. How does that draw a picture AT ALL? If I go to an Italian restaurant and have a bad meal where the food is crap, should I hit the internet and say all Italian food is crap and every new Italian restaurant that opens up is going to fail?
Sorry, one example of a game from an entirely different development team doesn't qualify your statements. EA rushed that out before it was ready, they chose an old engine, their development team was slightly clueless on MMO development etc etc.
Stop trying to invent reasons to get people to take your opinion as fact. Accept it is your opinion and is NOT one shared by "everyone".
So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
what do u think happend with SWTOR again i apply?
people bought that crappy game and thought it was good and it failed hard. m
same will happen with Teso oh and also look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
as i said TESO is over Hyped by tons of fans and is not as good as they said..
So, SWTOR failed therefore this game will fail. How does that draw a picture AT ALL? If I go to a Italian restaurant and have a bad meal where the food is crap, should I hit the internet and say all Italian food is crap and every new Italian restaurant that opens up is going to fail?
Sorry, one example of a game from an entirely different development team doesn't qualify your statements. EA rushed that out before it was ready, they chose an old engine, their development team was slightly clueless on MMO development etc etc.
Stop trying to invent reasons to get people to take your opinion as fact. Accept it is your opinion and is NOT one shared by "everyone".
u must be a fanboy..
no SWTOR failed cause it had no endgame to many bugs, promises, and to little fun,
and Teso will fail because it's disgusting in a way of questing,dungeon,raid or what ever its called and also because the combat is crappy and laggy. and the game itself is extremly boring as many people said its a cheap version of Elder scrolls Skyrim or in general a Cheap version of the entier series. and also because it requires you to buy a collecters edition for 100$ just to play a extra race. and tons more.
and i dont think u get anything i said..
i compared it to Gw2 and Swtor because those two games was Over HYPED aswell and games that are over Hyped are almost Bound to fail
happend with Rift,Tera Over Hyped= failed
and no this is not only my opnion alot of people said it and so on about a couple of million people said it . plently of reviews gave reasons to why it was bad aswell
So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
what do u think happend with SWTOR again i apply?
people bought that crappy game and thought it was good and it failed hard. m
same will happen with Teso oh and also look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
as i said TESO is over Hyped by tons of fans and is not as good as they said..
So, SWTOR failed therefore this game will fail. How does that draw a picture AT ALL? If I go to an Italian restaurant and have a bad meal where the food is crap, should I hit the internet and say all Italian food is crap and every new Italian restaurant that opens up is going to fail?
Sorry, one example of a game from an entirely different development team doesn't qualify your statements. EA rushed that out before it was ready, they chose an old engine, their development team was slightly clueless on MMO development etc etc.
Stop trying to invent reasons to get people to take your opinion as fact. Accept it is your opinion and is NOT one shared by "everyone".
SWTOR was a way better game than this, even the beta. I wouldn't be surprised if they get a sub bump tomorrow.
look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
I don't understand how GW2 can have failed when they really went with the b2p option from the beginning.
They are still pushing out event content every 2 weeks and there are so many players wanting to do this that you have to line up ahead of time to actually get into the event.
Overpopulated servers = failure? Ok!
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by boxsnd Probably 6 months, 1 year at most. It just doesn't have the quality to be a P2P game. I'm not even sure it can survive as a F2P. Most F2Ps have better combat/animations/UI/questing.
No MMO has ever gone f2p in less than 12 months so it's not going to happen.
Swtor did and it was the most expensive mmo with the biggest ip of all times. ESO is going the same route.
Also how long did it take TSW again before they went b2p?
ESO will just try to sell as many lifetime subs as possible before they go the freemium route and the fans are in such a blind hype-rush that they don't see a lifetime sub is nothing else but a 200$ b2p model.
look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
I don't understand how GW2 can have failed when they really went with the b2p option from the beginning.
They are still pushing out event content every 2 weeks and there are so many players wanting to do this that you have to line up ahead of time to actually get into the event.
Overpopulated servers = failure? Ok!
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by boxsnd Probably 6 months, 1 year at most. It just doesn't have the quality to be a P2P game. I'm not even sure it can survive as a F2P. Most F2Ps have better combat/animations/UI/questing.
No MMO has ever gone f2p in less than 12 months so it's not going to happen.
Swtor did and it was the most expensive mmo with the biggest ip of all times. ESO is going the same route.
Also how long did it take TSW again before they went b2p?
ESO will just try to sell as many lifetime subs as possible before they go the freemium route and the fans are in such a blind hype-rush that they don't see a lifetime sub is nothing else but a 200$ b2p model.
the thing i ment was with GW2 is not a failling game but a sort of dead game i have logged in a couple of times to check the new content and honestly its boring the thing i ment with GW2 failling is that it had to little content to begin with but now it seems to recover from that lose of playerbase and once again getting a spot in the top with Wow,Wildstar and so
i myself loved Gw2 for 6months before quitting cause it was simply to easy, and boring
I give it 1 year at max. It's not that the game is bad or anything, it just doesn't meet expectations one would expect of an Elder Scrolls game. It also doesn't seem to offer anything all that new compared to what is already out on the market, which you can get for a far cheaper price. It also doesn't help this whole NDA thing is still going on. Why on earth would you keep NDA up when everyone already can get into beta? I really must be missing the point of it.
To be honest, they would have done so much better having gone B2P from the get go. Also ... probably shouldn't have locked a main elder scrolls race behind a pay gate. That was a really stupid move, and I have to wonder who at the company thought that was a good idea.
i dont think the game getting F2P anytime yet. its also not a fail game like FF14 or SWTOR like i've played.so it probly more than 3 years untill new game come out
everquest next could be the one drawing people but its style is totally different plus SOE is known for being greedy.
i dont think the game getting F2P anytime yet. its also not a fail game like FF14 or SWTOR like i've played.so it probly more than 3 years untill new game come out
everquest next could be the one drawing people but its style is totally different plus SOE is known for being greedy.
Yep because ESO developers are not being greedy at all. Only SOE is known for being greedy. Thanks for the chuckle.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
At least not before a year I'd say, might have been longer but the press might improve after the game actually launches.
Anyone saying 6 months is living in a fantasy land.
A trend that seems to be developing with this game is "I like it a lot but I won't tell people that because if I complain enough maybe I can persuade the company to give it to me for free!"
At least not before a year I'd say, might have been longer but the press might improve after the game actually launches.
Anyone saying 6 months is living in a fantasy land.
A trend that seems to be developing with this game is "I like it a lot but I won't tell people that because if I complain enough maybe I can persuade the company to give it to me for free!"
aka: fantasy land.
That's funny ... o.o I have not seen anyone say that.
At least not before a year I'd say, might have been longer but the press might improve after the game actually launches.
Anyone saying 6 months is living in a fantasy land.
A trend that seems to be developing with this game is "I like it a lot but I won't tell people that because if I complain enough maybe I can persuade the company to give it to me for free!"
aka: fantasy land.
That's funny ... o.o I have not seen anyone say that.
Of course you haven't, then it would be obvious what their intentions were. :P
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So, a few hundred people who choose to hit forums represents a community of potentially millions.
How about the several hundred thousand who have already paid for the game and never come near forums? How about the thousands of people who just roll their eyes at posts like that?
Seriously, trying to lean on "some forum posts" from a very small minority as your justification for an entire community is utterly pointless.
ye i kinda messed up abit lol but still it went under after 11months but it already failed after 1 and they lost quite alot of money on it
what do u think happend with SWTOR again i apply?
people bought that crappy game and thought it was good and it failed hard. m
same will happen with Teso oh and also look at GW2 how fast that game died all through its a F2P already just with Buy once.
as i said TESO is over Hyped by tons of fans and is not as good as they said..
Who are we kidding? this is the company that has flip-floped so much it isnt funny.
They are obviously going to announce before they release that they have fliped to the f2p model.
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Agreed lol the game is just not what it's said to be
no Kidding lol Pay 100$ + to play one extra race No thanks..
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
indeed but that only happens if they game has 1mil + active players like that would happen
So, SWTOR failed therefore this game will fail. How does that draw a picture AT ALL? If I go to an Italian restaurant and have a bad meal where the food is crap, should I hit the internet and say all Italian food is crap and every new Italian restaurant that opens up is going to fail?
Sorry, one example of a game from an entirely different development team doesn't qualify your statements. EA rushed that out before it was ready, they chose an old engine, their development team was slightly clueless on MMO development etc etc.
Stop trying to invent reasons to get people to take your opinion as fact. Accept it is your opinion and is NOT one shared by "everyone".
u must be a fanboy..
no SWTOR failed cause it had no endgame to many bugs, promises, and to little fun,
and Teso will fail because it's disgusting in a way of questing,dungeon,raid or what ever its called and also because the combat is crappy and laggy. and the game itself is extremly boring as many people said its a cheap version of Elder scrolls Skyrim or in general a Cheap version of the entier series. and also because it requires you to buy a collecters edition for 100$ just to play a extra race. and tons more.
and i dont think u get anything i said..
i compared it to Gw2 and Swtor because those two games was Over HYPED aswell and games that are over Hyped are almost Bound to fail
happend with Rift,Tera Over Hyped= failed
and no this is not only my opnion alot of people said it and so on about a couple of million people said it . plently of reviews gave reasons to why it was bad aswell
SWTOR was a way better game than this, even the beta. I wouldn't be surprised if they get a sub bump tomorrow.
I don't understand how GW2 can have failed when they really went with the b2p option from the beginning.
They are still pushing out event content every 2 weeks and there are so many players wanting to do this that you have to line up ahead of time to actually get into the event.
Overpopulated servers = failure? Ok!
Originally posted by amber-rNo MMO has ever gone f2p in less than 12 months so it's not going to happen.
Swtor did and it was the most expensive mmo with the biggest ip of all times. ESO is going the same route.
Also how long did it take TSW again before they went b2p?
ESO will just try to sell as many lifetime subs as possible before they go the freemium route and the fans are in such a blind hype-rush that they don't see a lifetime sub is nothing else but a 200$ b2p model.
Here you go Read this review
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/07/playing-elder-scrolls-online-from-a-console-gamers-perspective
has alot of positiv things i agree with and same with negativ about the game
To much Singleplayer Experience just like Swtor did
the thing i ment was with GW2 is not a failling game but a sort of dead game i have logged in a couple of times to check the new content and honestly its boring the thing i ment with GW2 failling is that it had to little content to begin with but now it seems to recover from that lose of playerbase and once again getting a spot in the top with Wow,Wildstar and so
i myself loved Gw2 for 6months before quitting cause it was simply to easy, and boring
I give it 1 year at max. It's not that the game is bad or anything, it just doesn't meet expectations one would expect of an Elder Scrolls game. It also doesn't seem to offer anything all that new compared to what is already out on the market, which you can get for a far cheaper price. It also doesn't help this whole NDA thing is still going on. Why on earth would you keep NDA up when everyone already can get into beta? I really must be missing the point of it.
To be honest, they would have done so much better having gone B2P from the get go. Also ... probably shouldn't have locked a main elder scrolls race behind a pay gate. That was a really stupid move, and I have to wonder who at the company thought that was a good idea.
well, with Cash shop + huge fans base.
i dont think the game getting F2P anytime yet. its also not a fail game like FF14 or SWTOR like i've played.so it probly more than 3 years untill new game come out
everquest next could be the one drawing people but its style is totally different plus SOE is known for being greedy.
6-12 months tops.
With a shitty combat I doubt they can hold the rvr crowd either.
Yep because ESO developers are not being greedy at all. Only SOE is known for being greedy. Thanks for the chuckle.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
At least not before a year I'd say, might have been longer but the press might improve after the game actually launches.
Anyone saying 6 months is living in a fantasy land.
A trend that seems to be developing with this game is "I like it a lot but I won't tell people that because if I complain enough maybe I can persuade the company to give it to me for free!"
aka: fantasy land.
That's funny ... o.o I have not seen anyone say that.
Of course you haven't, then it would be obvious what their intentions were. :P