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Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

 

i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

 

my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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  • goblagobla Member UncommonPosts: 1,412
    Hrm... what's these sort of games called again where you have to pay extra to satisfy the minmaxer in you?

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  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    If you are wondering, then you probably will buy it. The question is more specifically (assuming it CE or standard and that you are buying at least 1 version) is 'Is $20 something I can live with if I don't use it?'

    I looked at it that way and bought the CE. I figured over time assuming I stay with the game (which seems likely for at least a couple months) the horse has some in game cash or effort savings value.

    And as I craft it will be nice to be able to craft everything (Imp armor) people might want.

  • DilweedDilweed Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    I want to play a templar aswell and I checked all the races but I think the Breton might be better then the elves for a healer (I assume you go light armour)

  • RaunuRaunu Member UncommonPosts: 480

    Come on. Don't reward them for locking a whole race behind a paywall.

    While I personally don't enjoy ES:O.  I understand why many do and I hope the game is successful and around for a long time for you folks.  However, I still would never encourage them to get the CE due to the crap that Zenimax is pulling with the Imperial Race.

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  • ElirionLothElirionLoth Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Originally posted by gobla
    Hrm... what's these sort of games called again where you have to pay extra to satisfy the minmaxer in you?

    In this case, a collector's edition quite like 90% of all MMOs that have come out in the past few years.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by gobla
    Hrm... what's these sort of games called again where you have to pay extra to satisfy the minmaxer in you?

    They're called MMO's.

    Every CE I've ever seen has had some ingame item/s and/or perks that were exclusive to the CE...

  • CirandraCirandra Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Imperial templar you say? cant w8 to /lute on your corpse with my master race khajjit image
  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346

    I bought the collectors edition for the horse. I couldn't care less about the imperial racial. Saving 17000g is huge.

    I don't think the imperial racials have been released yet, so it's hard to say. I doubt they will have anything that will make a huge difference.

    Breton has the Gift of Magnus +4% Max Magicka and Magicka Mastery -1% spell cost. As a straight healer really your only choice if you don't want to play an elf.

    Orsimer wouldn't be bad if you wanted to play a tank templar. They +5% health rengenration in combat and a +2% to max Stamina/Health.

    Either way these bonuses aren't really that big of a deal. considering you can put stats on your armor that will make more of an impact than any racials.

  • ElirionLothElirionLoth Member UncommonPosts: 308
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    Elves rule!  You're going down round eye! :P

  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708
    Originally posted by Fenia
    Imperial templar you say? cant w8 to /lute on your corpse with my master race khajjit image

    lulz, cause no one expects a crit based stealthy build in pvp...  ;p

    Without breaching the NDA, I can say that in most mmo's in the past having a mount is an expensive acquisition early on.  So for me that is a good reason to buy the CE.  Now, I'm not going to jump on the assumption that Imperial's are exclusive to the CE (I haven't seen an announcement from ZOS that is).  Are we going to assume that you can only get a mount with the CE?  No, so why the race?  They just state that everything in the imperial edition is an "exclusive collection".  It never states once on the faq that any one item is exclusive.  We publically know you can unlock skill trees through adventuring, why not a race?  As many of you have assumed you cannot, it is also valid to assume you can.

    I will wait to say the sky is falling until it is, not based on limited information/assumptions.

    Cheers!

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  • lathaanlathaan Member UncommonPosts: 476

    afaik we simply dont know the imperial stats yet.

    but i would say that a classic "human" stat set is to be expected. well rounded stats with no specials and maybe regen boosts for stam AND magicka - at a lower rate than the specialists. Ill play an imperial templar - mainly to annoy roleplayers tho :D 

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by ElirionLoth
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    Elves rule!  You're going down round eye! :P

    You just prooved my point mister i know it all .....

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • DilweedDilweed Member UncommonPosts: 222

    Dude, play Breton, problem solved.

    Less mana cost has the same effect as more mana regen.

    If you go pure healer, you wanna go light armour, cause it gives spell bonusses and then Breton is even better.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by Dilweed

    Dude, play Breton, problem solved.

    Less mana cost has the same effect as more mana regen.

    If you go pure healer, you wanna go light armour, cause it gives spell bonusses and then Breton is even better.

    Yes thats true... ... Both are better then max magicka

     

    but you can have up to 9% regeneration and only3% cost reduction

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  • DilweedDilweed Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Dilweed

    Dude, play Breton, problem solved.

    Less mana cost has the same effect as more mana regen.

    If you go pure healer, you wanna go light armour, cause it gives spell bonusses and then Breton is even better.

    Yes thats true... ... Both are better then max magicka

     

    but you can have up to 9% regeneration and only3% cost reduction

    Yup, you can't say which one is better until you know how much regen you will have at max lvl and how long fights take.

    What I mean is, if your regen is like 1 mana per second and a spell costs a million mana, then the reduction is better.

    If your regen is 1000 mana and a spell costs 5 mana, then the regeneration is better.

    It all depens on how they balance endgame

    /edit

    one other thing, the breton will always have more burst healing.

  • HrothaHrotha Member UncommonPosts: 821
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    If you can find me a CE under 20€ then I will buy it aswell. But 70stones or 90 equivalent US-stones for a CE of a game that I will possibly not play longer than 1 month?

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  • GiffenGiffen Member UncommonPosts: 276
    Originally posted by vmoped
    Originally posted by Fenia
    Imperial templar you say? cant w8 to /lute on your corpse with my master race khajjit image

    lulz, cause no one expects a crit based stealthy build in pvp...  ;p

    Without breaching the NDA, I can say that in most mmo's in the past having a mount is an expensive acquisition early on.  So for me that is a good reason to buy the CE.  Now, I'm not going to jump on the assumption that Imperial's are exclusive to the CE (I haven't seen an announcement from ZOS that is).  Are we going to assume that you can only get a mount with the CE?  No, so why the race?  They just state that everything in the imperial edition is an "exclusive collection".  It never states once on the faq that any one item is exclusive.  We publically know you can unlock skill trees through adventuring, why not a race?  As many of you have assumed you cannot, it is also valid to assume you can.

    I will wait to say the sky is falling until it is, not based on limited information/assumptions.

    Cheers!

    Yeah the wording on the CE makes is sound like the imperial race is not locked to that CE.  It uses the term "exclusive COLLECTION of digital content"...which to me indicates that all three or four things together is the collection so they can sell any single item in their cash shop.

     

    But the big thing from the CE is  the horse mount which will save tons of gold.  With the 20% off codes, the difference between the CE and the regular game is only like $16.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

    are you admitting that you would pay $100 for a race on a cash shop?

     

    if you dont care about anything else in the CE edition other than the imperial race then it doesnt matter how mixmaxer can you be, its just wrong. Thats what Zenimax and other companies who lock content behind paywalls want, to persuade you to think it is ok to pay extra for content that is supossed to come with the game´s standard price.





  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994
    Originally posted by rojo6934
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

    are you admitting that you would pay $100 for a race on a cash shop?

     

    if you dont care about anything else in the CE edition other than the imperial race then it doesnt matter how mixmaxer can you be, its just wrong. Thats what Zenimax and other companies who lock content behind paywalls want, to persuade you to think it is ok to pay extra for content that is supossed to come with the game´s standard price.

    ????????????? $59 standard and $79 CE (not figuring in any discounts). The question is over $20 not ....$100...what?

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Originally posted by Digna
    Originally posted by rojo6934
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

    are you admitting that you would pay $100 for a race on a cash shop?

     

    if you dont care about anything else in the CE edition other than the imperial race then it doesnt matter how mixmaxer can you be, its just wrong. Thats what Zenimax and other companies who lock content behind paywalls want, to persuade you to think it is ok to pay extra for content that is supossed to come with the game´s standard price.

    ????????????? $59 standard and $79 CE (not figuring in any discounts). The question is over $20 not ....$100...what?

    correct me if im wrong but last time i checked, the CE(imperial edition) was 99$ and the digital deluxe edition was 79$, while the standard was 59$

     

    EDIT: my bad, i confused the digital CE with a digital deluxe.

    but the point i tried to make is that we should get the imperial race with a 60 dollar game. Buying a more expensive version of the game only to have another race included is like buying that race in a cash shop for that whole price in a f2p game.





  • SpawnbladeSpawnblade Member UncommonPosts: 204
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    1.  No race is stronger than any other in ESO.  They're all very well balanced for different roles.

    2.  No race must be played for the particular role that might be envisioned it.  The bonuses the races give are not larger enough to make that necessary, and in most cases they work for multiple builds anyway.  

    3.  For a min-maxer, however, I suppose the 4% of whatever might make a difference for you.  In that case, you have nothing to worry about with Imperials.  ESO has stayed quite faithful to abilities from the main games, which means Imperials will have some ESO version of this :

    +10 Restoration (25)

    +5 Block (20)

    +5 Destruction (20)

    +5 Enchanting (20)

    +5 Heavy Armor (20)

    +5 One-Handed (20)

    OR
     
    You're probably looking at a race with + to healing, or + to speechcraft (maybe better merchant prices or something.)  Otherwise one handed/shield can be found on something like a Redguard.
     
    They will not have mana regeneration.  They might have a + to amount healed, but other races have that, so you would, by no means, have to take Imperial.  
     
    If you're really worried, however, just go preorder it at Green Man Gaming (Edit:  Nevermind, just checked and found that their preorder sale is over.  There will probably be other places doing the same sale between now and launch though, so keep your eyes open for 25% off.)  You can get the Imperial Edition for the same price as you would buying the Standard from the official site.  However, if you don't care about the extra 2 days of early access, then I would probably just get the standard from one of the sale sites.  (Standard digital gives you 3 days from other sites, Imperial gives 5 days early access.  Standard from the official site gives 5 days.)  
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,445
    I don't want to sound fussy but is the Imperial a race or just an occupation? I understood the pre-orders were allowing starter characters to be called Imperial but that's not actually a race?
  • DilweedDilweed Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Originally posted by Spawnblade
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

     

    my main will be a templar healer, and since in all the mmos i played i found that  arcane regeneration is the sinle most important stat for a  healer... It got me wondering about the Imperial races stats, only if they have arcane regeneration, it will be a viable choice for my human templar.  Because so far only the elves have arcane regeneration...  And i never play elves because of their attitude i dont like...

    3.  For a min-maxer, however, I suppose the 4% of whatever might make a difference for you.  In that case, you have nothing to worry about with Imperials.  ESO has stayed quite faithful to abilities from the main games, which means Imperials will have some ESO version of this :

    +10 Restoration (25)

    +5 Block (20)

    +5 Destruction (20)

    +5 Enchanting (20)

    +5 Heavy Armor (20)

    +5 One-Handed (20)

    OR
     
    You're probably looking at a race with + to healing, or + to speechcraft (maybe better merchant prices or something.)  Otherwise one handed/shield can be found on something like a Redguard.
     
    They will not have mana regeneration.  They might have a + to amount healed, but other races have that, so you would, by no means, have to take Imperial.  
     

    Exacly, the imperial doesn't look like a healer so it won't have 3 of its' 4 skills made for healer, that would be stupid.

    So, nothing to worry about :)

  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994
    Originally posted by rojo6934
    Originally posted by Digna
    Originally posted by rojo6934
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    I am just asking myself if buying the collectors ediition for the i perial race will be worth it.. To sattisfy the minmaxer in me..

     

    i dont care for all the other stuff... And i dont care for alts since it might be possible to enjoy all the content and exploration with a single character..

    are you admitting that you would pay $100 for a race on a cash shop?

     

    if you dont care about anything else in the CE edition other than the imperial race then it doesnt matter how mixmaxer can you be, its just wrong. Thats what Zenimax and other companies who lock content behind paywalls want, to persuade you to think it is ok to pay extra for content that is supossed to come with the game´s standard price.

    ????????????? $59 standard and $79 CE (not figuring in any discounts). The question is over $20 not ....$100...what?

    correct me if im wrong but last time i checked, the CE(imperial edition) was 99$ and the digital deluxe edition was 79$, while the standard was 59$

     

    EDIT: my bad, i confused the digital CE with a digital deluxe.

    but the point i tried to make is that we should get the imperial race with a 60 dollar game. Buying a more expensive version of the game only to have another race included is like buying that race in a cash shop for that whole price in a f2p game.

    No worries. I get the point. I was surprised by the faction unlock more than the Imps but such as it is.

  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by rojo6934
     

    correct me if im wrong but last time i checked, the CE(imperial edition) was 99$ and the digital deluxe edition was 79$, while the standard was 59$

     

    EDIT: my bad, i confused the digital CE with a digital deluxe.

    but the point i tried to make is that we should get the imperial race with a 60 dollar game. Buying a more expensive version of the game only to have another race included is like buying that race in a cash shop for that whole price in a f2p game.

    The online Imperial Edition is $79.99. You can get it for $64 through Green Man Gaming with a 20% off coupon.

    http://www.dealzon.com/deals/green-man-gaming-coupon-voucher#20-off

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