What assessment do I want? I want them to stop lying! how hard is that to understand. Give us a true picture of release and let the cards fall where they may. I am sick of them giving a release date then missing it by many years with no release in sight. I am sick of them saying alpha will be released soon or by the end of the year, then changing that year over year.
Your solution is for them to mislead even more by not telling the customer/investor the truth? Why is that good business practice?
I think you're misunderstanding what crowdfunding is. Sure, it's a "business" but it's also a "project" created by (hopefully) passionate people and the people who want that product.
As Slapshot and Kyleran said, crowdfunded projects won't necessarily end if there are people who are willing to back it. They aren't necessarily "businesses" that have finite resources and they have to assess whether or not they should continue.
These are passion projects funded by the fans. It's very akin to, say, "Skywind" where it's a bunch of passionate creators working until it's done (or until they no longer have interest in making it.)
The difference between them is that a crowdfunded project asks for funding up front and a large mod project just says they will accept donations to cover costs.
"If" the crowdfunded project launches then people get paid and maybe the creators have some sort of business.
So all a crowdfunded project needs to do is convince people that the idea/project is still viable and if people give them money then they continue.
I think it would be better to give consistent release updates but given what seem the very mercurial nature of these teams, that could very well just be difficult.
I have no "solution" and I'm certainly not saying they should mislead people but I am saying that as long as they are interested in the project and as long as there are people willing to back it, they can work as they work. If people stop and they lose momentum due to funding then that's that.
But that's the risk of crowdfunded projects. I strongly believe that this is a second gig for a good many of the Pantheon team. Some may very well be volunteering or taking lower salaries to get the work done. And that doesn't add to a quick launch. If it launches at all and I don't think they will.
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Let me throw a spanner into the works. To play one of these unfinished games costs $30-$45. What does $45 buy you in terms of entertainment?
A night at the movies. A month or two of streaming service. A few DvD's. One good steak dinner. A bottle of good tequila.
Now take one of these unfinished games, can you get $45 worth of entertainment from them? I'm playing New World which is widely considered a flop. But I'm having fun, just started and have played a few weeks. I've gotten my entertainment value already.
If you can get $45 worth of entertainment value from the game in its current state, is it a scam that they never release a real product?
Yes. If they tell you something untrue in order to get your money.
New World is a released game.
It's even been added to and improved multiple times.
It cost me $20 on a Steam sale which I paid a year after release.
Also, I knew and got what I paid for.
One of these things is a much better deal than the other.
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Oh I see, but why are you talking about Ashes of Creation in a Pantheon Thread?
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO. I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
Exactly my point.
And not only crowdfunded games but every game or studio. Fact is a lot of games get delayed or change scope or get features cut or downgraded, it's not something exclusive of crowdfunded games. In normal studios they also make pitch videos to investors that might portray the game in a better light that they can realistically make so that the project gets approved.
That's what needs to come across to general gamers, all this things are usual occurrence within the game development business so there's no point in crying about it happening with crowdfunded games.
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO.
I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without
fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty
interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates
but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
It's funny when we know why he is defeding this one. Has nothing to do with Pantheon and we all know it.
Funny is watching some posters that think pointing out simple facts about basic game development that shatter their flawed unicorn ideas as defending anything.
Highly funny indeed is watching those who attacked me for years when I stated that those development hurdles were normal for a crowdfunded game and brand new studios in multiple Star Citizen threads now getting to see them also in many other studios and games they backed.
Let me throw a spanner into the works. To play one of these unfinished games costs $30-$45. What does $45 buy you in terms of entertainment?
A night at the movies. A month or two of streaming service. A few DvD's. One good steak dinner. A bottle of good tequila.
Now take one of these unfinished games, can you get $45 worth of entertainment from them? I'm playing New World which is widely considered a flop. But I'm having fun, just started and have played a few weeks. I've gotten my entertainment value already.
If you can get $45 worth of entertainment value from the game in its current state, is it a scam that they never release a real product?
Yes. If they tell you something untrue in order to get your money.
New World is a released game.
It's even been added to and improved multiple times.
It cost me $20 on a Steam sale which I paid a year after release.
Also, I knew and got what I paid for.
One of these things is a much better deal than the other.
I paid zero for New World so it was one of the best deals ever!
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Oh I see, but why are you talking about Ashes of Creation in a Pantheon Thread?
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO. I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
Exactly my point.
And not only crowdfunded games but every game or studio. Fact is a lot of games get delayed or change scope or get features cut or downgraded, it's not something exclusive of crowdfunded games. In normal studios they also make pitch videos to investors that might portray the game in a better light that they can realistically make so that the project gets approved.
That's what needs to come across to general gamers, all this things are usual occurrence within the game development business so there's no point in crying about it happening with crowdfunded games.
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO.
I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without
fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty
interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates
but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
It's funny when we know why he is defeding this one. Has nothing to do with Pantheon and we all know it.
Funny is watching some posters that think pointing out simple facts about basic game development that shatter their flawed unicorn ideas as defending anything.
Highly funny indeed is watching those who attacked me for years when I stated that those development hurdles were normal for a crowdfunded game and brand new studios in multiple Star Citizen threads now getting to see them also in many other studios and games they backed.
Thanks for making my point even stronger
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Oh I see, but why are you talking about Ashes of Creation in a Pantheon Thread?
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO. I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
Exactly my point.
And not only crowdfunded games but every game or studio. Fact is a lot of games get delayed or change scope or get features cut or downgraded, it's not something exclusive of crowdfunded games. In normal studios they also make pitch videos to investors that might portray the game in a better light that they can realistically make so that the project gets approved.
That's what needs to come across to general gamers, all this things are usual occurrence within the game development business so there's no point in crying about it happening with crowdfunded games.
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO.
I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without
fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty
interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates
but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
It's funny when we know why he is defeding this one. Has nothing to do with Pantheon and we all know it.
Funny is watching some posters that think pointing out simple facts about basic game development that shatter their flawed unicorn ideas as defending anything.
Highly funny indeed is watching those who attacked me for years when I stated that those development hurdles were normal for a crowdfunded game and brand new studios in multiple Star Citizen threads now getting to see them also in many other studios and games they backed.
Oh I see, but why are you talking about Ashes of Creation in a Pantheon Thread?
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO. I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
Exactly my point.
And not only crowdfunded games but every game or studio. Fact is a lot of games get delayed or change scope or get features cut or downgraded, it's not something exclusive of crowdfunded games. In normal studios they also make pitch videos to investors that might portray the game in a better light that they can realistically make so that the project gets approved.
That's what needs to come across to general gamers, all this things are usual occurrence within the game development business so there's no point in crying about it happening with crowdfunded games.
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO.
I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without
fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty
interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates
but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
It's funny when we know why he is defeding this one. Has nothing to do with Pantheon and we all know it.
Funny is watching some posters that think pointing out simple facts about basic game development that shatter their flawed unicorn ideas as defending anything.
Highly funny indeed is watching those who attacked me for years when I stated that those development hurdles were normal for a crowdfunded game and brand new studios in multiple Star Citizen threads now getting to see them also in many other studios and games they backed.
Thanks for making my point even stronger
Vindication is a sweet thing
Babs, you realize that you are the last person standing in defense of SC against countiess others who have walked away
Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years.
But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers.
That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years.
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Oh I see, but why are you talking about Ashes of Creation in a Pantheon Thread?
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO. I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
Exactly my point.
And not only crowdfunded games but every game or studio. Fact is a lot of games get delayed or change scope or get features cut or downgraded, it's not something exclusive of crowdfunded games. In normal studios they also make pitch videos to investors that might portray the game in a better light that they can realistically make so that the project gets approved.
That's what needs to come across to general gamers, all this things are usual occurrence within the game development business so there's no point in crying about it happening with crowdfunded games.
What I said easily applies to almost every crowd funded/kickstarted MMO.
I'm well aware this is a Pantheon thread and it applies here without
fail. I know it's hard to keep them straight and they are pretty
interchangeable when it comes to lying, incompetence and missing dates
but I never mentioned Ashes of Creation.
It's funny when we know why he is defeding this one. Has nothing to do with Pantheon and we all know it.
Funny is watching some posters that think pointing out simple facts about basic game development that shatter their flawed unicorn ideas as defending anything.
Highly funny indeed is watching those who attacked me for years when I stated that those development hurdles were normal for a crowdfunded game and brand new studios in multiple Star Citizen threads now getting to see them also in many other studios and games they backed.
Thanks for making my point even stronger
Vindication is a sweet thing
Babs, you realize that you are the last person standing in defense of SC against countiess others who have walked away
Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years.
But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers.
That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years.
They really should be paying you.
Yeah, very rarely now one of the other old guard pops up in defence, Babs is a one man "They shall not pass!". He should get a capital ship or something for his efforts. Being quite serious here.
Babs, you realize that you are the last person standing in defense of SC against countiess others who have walked away Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years. But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers. That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years. They really should be paying you.
Yeah, very rarely now one of the other old guard pops up in defence, Babs is a one man "They shall not pass!". He should get a capital ship or something for his efforts. Being quite serious here.
That coming from guys with 42,000+ & 20,000+ posts respectively is just precious.
Babs, you realize that you are the last person standing in defense of SC against countiess others who have walked away Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years. But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers. That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years. They really should be paying you.
Yeah, very rarely now one of the other old guard pops up in defence, Babs is a one man "They shall not pass!". He should get a capital ship or something for his efforts. Being quite serious here.
That coming from guys with 42,000+ & 20,000+ posts respectively is just precious.
Wonder who's paying you guys
The difference of course is that our posts cover probably 10000 topics. Not just one all consuming “My Precious!!!”
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Babs, you realize that you are the last person standing in defense of SC against countiess others who have walked away Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years. But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers. That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years. They really should be paying you.
Yeah, very rarely now one of the other old guard pops up in defence, Babs is a one man "They shall not pass!". He should get a capital ship or something for his efforts. Being quite serious here.
That coming from guys with 42,000+ & 20,000+ posts respectively is just precious.
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The difference of course is that our posts cover probably 10000 topics. Not just one all consuming “My Precious!!!”
Yeah not everyone want's spend their lives holding grudges and complaining about games in 10000 topics!
Some gamers prefer to enjoy games while appreciating the effort developers do
Typical irrelevant response. You said we had tens of thousands of posts and asked who was paying us. So I pointed out that our posts were across thousands of topics, not just one. It's a stark difference from someone with 4000+ praising a single game (which is still in some sort of early Alpha).
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The difference of course is that our posts cover probably 10000 topics. Not just one all consuming “My Precious!!!”
Yeah not everyone want's spend their lives holding grudges and complaining about games in 10000 topics!
Some gamers prefer to enjoy games while appreciating the effort developers do
Typical irrelevant response. You said we had tens of thousands of posts and asked who was paying us. So I pointed out that our posts were across thousands of topics, not just one. It's a stark difference from someone with 4000+ praising a single game (which is still in some sort of early Alpha).
Oh yeah I can see how enjoying games and apreciating developers work is totally irrelevant for someone who makes a hobby of being angry at video games and developers
The difference of course is that our posts cover probably 10000 topics. Not just one all consuming “My Precious!!!”
Yeah not everyone want's spend their lives holding grudges and complaining about games in 10000 topics!
Some gamers prefer to enjoy games while appreciating the effort developers do
Typical irrelevant response. You said we had tens of thousands of posts and asked who was paying us. So I pointed out that our posts were across thousands of topics, not just one. It's a stark difference from someone with 4000+ praising a single game (which is still in some sort of early Alpha).
Oh yeah I can see how enjoying games and apreciating developers work is totally irrelevant for someone who makes a hobby of being angry at video games and developers
I enjoy lots of games. For instance... Diablo 4. I just don't make it a religious experience.
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The difference of course is that our posts cover probably 10000 topics. Not just one all consuming “My Precious!!!”
Yeah not everyone want's spend their lives holding grudges and complaining about games in 10000 topics!
Some gamers prefer to enjoy games while appreciating the effort developers do
Typical irrelevant response. You said we had tens of thousands of posts and asked who was paying us. So I pointed out that our posts were across thousands of topics, not just one. It's a stark difference from someone with 4000+ praising a single game (which is still in some sort of early Alpha).
Oh yeah I can see how enjoying games and apreciating developers work is totally irrelevant for someone who makes a hobby of being angry at video games and developers
Appreciating developers work, haha, that's hilarious considering these developers have killed any chance future MMO games will be made with crowd funding after the lying and incompetence they have shown.
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No new ones are being funded. The ones that are in development are all around a decade in or more. The ones that have released have not exactly been smashing successes with the very rare exception.
I question how many will even make it to a release and even then how many will end up like Crowfall?
Even Star Citizen with it's massive piles of money is a meme.
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Following on from "Role-Playing a Development Team" which crowd funder is going to actual give us a chance to do that? Like Civ we would pick various studio leaders in our attempts to actually get a game out the door!
I bag Chris Roberts cause he is a Brit and at least my avatars retirement fund looks amazing.
Following on from "Role-Playing a Development Team" which crowd funder is going to actual give us a chance to do that? Like Civ we would pick various studio leaders in our attempts to actually get a game out the door!
Sounds like a good idea for a Kickstarter Project!
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Leave McQuaid's game alone. They will release it. Sure it may be vanguard all over again but they will release it
I would take Vanguard all over again at this point.
As much as I liked some things in Vanguard there's a reason it got shut down and everyone was fired in the parking lot and it wasn't because it was a huge success making tons of money.
Uh apparently you havent followed Vanguard much, if at all.
It was shut down because the engine would have needed a serious fix for the graphics engine.
They decided the game isnt worth the investment, and that was that.
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Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
It's even been added to and improved multiple times.
It cost me $20 on a Steam sale which I paid a year after release.
Also, I knew and got what I paid for.
One of these things is a much better deal than the other.
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Team Portugal and the Rabbit haven't been seen defending SC in years.
But I will salute your 5000 plus hours of pre-release gaming, that's at least 2.5 years of unpaid testing you've given RI, well over a $125K value making you probably one of their largest backers.
That's not including at least as many hours you've spent defending SC and WC the past 10 years.
They really should be paying you.
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I get $0.25 per post, don't you? I think there's a bonus for being snide too.
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No new ones are being funded. The ones that are in development are all around a decade in or more. The ones that have released have not exactly been smashing successes with the very rare exception.
I question how many will even make it to a release and even then how many will end up like Crowfall?
Even Star Citizen with it's massive piles of money is a meme.
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Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I bag Chris Roberts cause he is a Brit and at least my avatars retirement fund looks amazing.
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I am wondering if Pantheon: ROTF is a finished product I can pay for and license and play with my friends now.
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