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Which faction has the most noble cause
nerovipus32
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As the title states which faction do you feel have good intentions and which faction do you believe to have delusions of grandeur.
Who are the good guys and who are the bad?
Is there even a good or bad faction?
Is everyone evil?
Why does a certain faction resonate with you?
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I'd put the Ebonheart Pact as the most "noble." They aren't in the fight for any personal gain whatsoever. They just want to protect their lands, and are willing to put aside deep wounds between the races for the sake of ending the Daedric threat. And it isn't just a "listen to me until the problem is over" kind of thing either, willingly opening themselves up to planning and talking together as a council.
Aldmeri Dominion comes second and while that will probably sound weird to Skyrim players, this time around the Thalmor hold more to 'noblesse oblige' in that because they believe themselves better, they should be better. In deed and policy, and work for the good of Tamriel as a whole. They still lose points for the inherent bigotry.
Daggerfall Covenant in my opinion comes dead last. They have a very "me and mine" mindset. If the trade routes had weathered better, I have a feeling they would have been Switzerland and not be an active faction in the war at all. A lot of their motive seems to be 'do whatever it takes to get the status quo back.' It just so happens that the major upset in that quo is Mannimarco and Molag Bal, but it could easily be anything else.
This is reflected in the starting areas.
Ebonheart starts you off with finding missing villagers and leading an evacuation, Nord and Dunmer working side by side with mutual purpose. There is tension, yes, but when face to face with problems they get over it in record time.
Aldmeri Dominion has you proving to a neutral government that the Aldmeri Dominion would be a beneficial partner and while not exactly altruistic, they want the PR doing good deeds for the locals gives them. And they seem to have every intention of holding to their bargains.
Daggerfall Covenant has you doing a bit of thieving so that the Redguard king can get around a bit of red tape in pressuring his own people to stop attacking official allies. Then on the orc island the only thought a loyal Redguard has in dealing with a soul sucking, semi-sentient artifact is that "no one would dare attack."
none of the above.
elder scrolls is known for makeing everyone look and fill like bad people and racist, they did tone down the rasism alot for the MMO admittidly but im willing to be as you continue on into latter quests ou will find they all have alterante motivies.
also on a side note alot of lore has been broken for these alliences to work, i have always read all the books in the elder scrolls games and if you do this you actully get a pile of ihstory for the world, and this MMO is breaking alot of the lore, just form the basic set up of alliences, im wondering how much more will be broken as we continue further into the game.
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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The only noble cause is fighting Molag Ball...
for the rest the fighting is all about personal gain and politics..
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Um, what lore was broken exactly in the alliances?
The better question to ask as an RPG fan would be "which one is developed better then the others?"
1. Aldmeri Dominion - developed the best. it even converted Angry Joe.
2. Daggerfall - second best developed and really beautiful.
3. Ebonhart Pact - Worst area, can kinda tell it was made first... not as beautiful as the others by far.
I would stick to Aldmeri Dominion or Daggerfall if your an RPG fan and want immersion 100%
Not really knowing any ES background before trying ESO, my reasoning was pretty much exactly this above for picking out Ebonheart. To me, banding together to overcome a greater threat is the ultimate indicator of the side i want to be on. I'm kinda disappointed that the we can't band together with people from other alliances to kill the daedra and other evil baddies. This would be in tune with the in-game lore, yet its not allowed. Hopefull they'll add it in the future.
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The elves of the Aldmeri Dominion are leading the campaign to restore Tamriel to Elven rule and finish the long lasting tyranny of the Empires of Men. - Too racially motivated to be considered "the good guys".
The leader of the Ebonheart Pact, Jorunn Skald-King, feels he and his Nords deserve to rule the Ruby throne of Cyrodil and the whole of Tamriel. The reason for his feeling that it is his right dates back to when the Nords ruled most of Tamriel and therefore believe they should take that role that was stolen from them. - Just like the elves this is a war to take back what they perceive to be theirs by right. Another set of conquerors.
The Daggerfall Covenant's goal is to re-establish the Second Empire and return peace and prosperity to Tamriel. - This is the "rightful" government of the time. They are not seeking dominance nor to be conquerors. They are looking to restore the rule of law. They are also the most willing to use diplomacy as evidenced by their agreement with the Orcs. These are the "good guys".
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for some lose basics,
slavery dousnt exist currently evne though it dose well into the morrowind and some into oblivion era,
the dominion never let any one beside aldimari onto their homelands, outside of slaves.
and i havent played anough of dagger fall area yet to know much about them in game,
there is more but these are some of the more obvous ones.
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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Noble is a matter of perspective. If you believe that it's possible to conquer people "for their own good" and that the High Elves really do know better than everyone else how to run an Empire, then the AD is the most noble. If you think every individual culture being allowed to exist independently without a centralized Empire dictating any laws to them, EP is the most noble. If you think restoring the rule of a human led Empire is the ideal, then the Daggerfall Covenant is most noble.
As far as personal appeal, I couldn't care less about nobility. The question I ask is which society would I actually want to live in. For me, that ranking goes DC, then EP, then AD. I like the philosophical ideal of the EP, but I'm not particularly fond of any of it's constituent nations, whereas I like both Daggerfall and Hammerfell. AD, bleh. Sanctimonious holier-than-thou twits.
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As my previous post explains why the Daggerfall Covenant are the "good guys", I do have to comment that I think they did a good job of creating factions with differing "point of views". This is important in 3 faction games as most people would just be used to picking the "good guys" or the "bad guys".
Cudos to the ESO team for creating factions where people have to debate who is right and who is wrong.
I think all of them have good intentions. But short lived humons always spoil it, so I say give the High Born Elves the power! Down with humans! =P
@Ebonheart: You don't seriously want to hand power over to drunkard Nords, scheming Darkelves and their Argonians slaves? Three races united which until a moment ago wanted to kill each other?
@Daggerfall: Lol yeah Tamriel's Ferengi, giving them power so makes sense... NOT. The people of Daggerfall can't even make peace with themselves! One new kingdom over every hill. We all know that Daggerfall is known for endless internal strife. They can't even rule themselves in peace!
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Ebonheart clearly.
Both the others want to rule. Ebonheart just wants to stop Molag Bal and retain their independence from another empire.
Nowhere is this Xenophobia more evident than in the AD story quest line. Queen Ayrenn is not Xenophobic and that is one of the main reasons some xenophobic Altmer dissenters, the Heritance, are trying to kill her. There is even a quest line in a "school" where snooty Altmers are trying to teach decorum to Khajiit and Bosmers
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Just one of the many reasons to join the AD, help fight xenophobia! Anyone ever realized it sounds like an end boss name?
Plucky Hero: It's time to end this once and for all Xenophobia!
Xenophobia: This isn't even my final form AHAHAHA
"Insert Splosion"
XenoPhage: Now you die!
"Tuck in your tail! Do you want people to see that?"
PS: pretty sure once Ayrenn is in power we'll see her true colors. This is just a ruse so she SEEMS all nice and all-inclusive. Just wait 'til she takes the throne. Lady-elf-hitler will be in full force.
The Altmer believe they are better than everyone else and should rule over all the lesser races.
Altmer - bigots
Bosmer - cannibles
Khajiit - crack heads
Its like in real life, there are no "noble" factions and everyone aims for power.
Death to all monarchies if you ask me.