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  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151
    it's a bad game bcuz it isn't innovative at all..combats tera w/o animation locks...will keep the attention of the average FPS player..better quest design than most MMOs out there but there is still no point to it all..you never really achieve anything..greatest WoW raiders or arena players are still stomped by patches or expansions and the same will happen here when you follow this design...territory and resource control..should add that to cyrrodil, and make it pve encompassing too :)
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Saying a game is very bad...when you know it isn't is a lie. Any other opinion comes from and agenda. Only Asshats spit forth false opinions. Just funny to see an argument here about this...as if it had "sides" to the argument.

    Ofcourse there are sides. Its called good and bad. And both are valid opinions.

    Don't know why you are getting so upset though. Hardly any need for name calling.

    Seems a fine line between being a martyr and an instigator in your case ....if your wooden spoon breaks you won't be able to stir the pot anymore

    Yes the guy who doesn't want to take anyone's side is the instigator. I am against bullying of people for simply saying that game is bad.

    Now you can spin what i say into anything you like. But i am not going to turn into a zombie fan of ESO who is devoid of any prudence and sensible reasoning.

    I like though how you always run to defend fans of the game no mater how bad their behavior is. You are the last person i want any kind of advice from but still.../thank you ;)

    Or how you run to defend false opinions of the game. All I did was say that "ESO is a terrible game" was a false opinion from a person that obviously had an agenda against the game....yet there you were to defend the "opinion"

    Did i call you a moron or asshat for giving your opinion? nope i didn't. So please i am not into any camp of haters and fanboys. I believe that everyone should have the right to say a game is good or bad without either side sniffing for blood.

     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151

    oh and what i just said is fact..burden of proof is the accuser

     

  • LisaFlexy22LisaFlexy22 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    Originally posted by Righteous_Rock

    I hope the consumers have fun, but I hope there is never another game like this, there is to much wrong with it. From money grab to poor design to bad animations to an unjustifiable monthly cost - the consumers are driving this, and unfortunately the acceptance for mediocrity is driving me away. I'm due for a new hobby anyhow, I guess I can't help but think about life before microtransactions and dlc.

     

    Why do you spend so much time in the ESO forums and threads if you hate the game so much?  I swear I see your posts in almost every ESO thread I go into and always the same "worst game in the world" crap over and over.  Maybe that could be your new hobby - posting in threads of games you like.

  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards Member Posts: 778
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    All MMOs are played by many at release. That doesn't mean anything.

    And you can call people morons for having their opinion but while doing that you are ignoring the obvious irony. I am quite calm and collected by the way. if i was excited i would lose my head over a video game and start abusing people for having a different taste .

    I didn't know you were the authority appointed by masses to define what is a 'real MMO player'. if only you could listen to yourself talking right now hahah!!

     

  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Saying a game is very bad...when you know it isn't is a lie. Any other opinion comes from and agenda. Only Asshats spit forth false opinions. Just funny to see an argument here about this...as if it had "sides" to the argument.

    Ofcourse there are sides. Its called good and bad. And both are valid opinions.

    Don't know why you are getting so upset though. Hardly any need for name calling.

    Seems a fine line between being a martyr and an instigator in your case ....if your wooden spoon breaks you won't be able to stir the pot anymore

    Yes the guy who doesn't want to take anyone's side is the instigator. I am against bullying of people for simply saying that game is bad.

    Now you can spin what i say into anything you like. But i am not going to turn into a zombie fan of ESO who is devoid of any prudence and sensible reasoning.

    I like though how you always run to defend fans of the game no mater how bad their behavior is. You are the last person i want any kind of advice from but still.../thank you ;)

    Or how you run to defend false opinions of the game. All I did was say that "ESO is a terrible game" was a false opinion from a person that obviously had an agenda against the game....yet there you were to defend the "opinion"

    Did i call you a moron or asshat for giving your opinion? nope i didn't. So please i am not into any camp of haters and fanboys. I believe that everyone should have the right to say a game is good or bad without either side sniffing for blood.

     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    If you wanted the same damn thing you've had for years just "prettier" and ES themed then your in luck..you get to play GW2 in ES's universe.....yay.

  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by rogue187

    oh and what i just said is fact..burden of proof is the accuser

     

    lol...wha?.

    You trying to be all mysterious? The burden lies with you...and you failed like the others. The game is being released to many thousands. Just like I said....you need to have something real to sway real players of a game. So get real or get lost

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

  • FearumFearum Member UncommonPosts: 1,175
    What are the trolls going to do after the game launches? Where will they go? What will they do with all of their new free time?
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    All MMOs are played by many at release. That doesn't mean anything.

    And you can call people morons for having their opinion but while doing that you are ignoring the obvious irony. I am quite calm and collected by the way. if i was excited i would lose my head over a video game and start abusing people for having a different taste .

    I didn't know you were the authority appointed by masses to define what is a 'real MMO player'. if only you could listen to yourself talking right now hahah!!

     

    Once again...for the slow....

     

    A "terrible game" it is not. A game for you? May be not. WHAT DO YOU NOT GET?!?!

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    All MMOs are played by many at release. That doesn't mean anything.

    And you can call people morons for having their opinion but while doing that you are ignoring the obvious irony. I am quite calm and collected by the way. if i was excited i would lose my head over a video game and start abusing people for having a different taste .

    I didn't know you were the authority appointed by masses to define what is a 'real MMO player'. if only you could listen to yourself talking right now hahah!!

     

    Once again...for the slow....

     

    A "terrible game" it is not. A game for you? May be not. WHAT DO YOU NOT GET?!?!

    What would be even more interesting is what he considers a "great game".  I wouldn't be surprised if it were Panda Express Online.  It just goes to show that we, as humans, have vastly different ideas of what we consider "great" and "terrible".

  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151
    Your all being children now..the games a short life themepark..let them  throw their  money at it...doubt it equal the..what..200mil they spent on it? Really wish they went sandbox with this
  • LatronusLatronus Member Posts: 692
    Originally posted by rogue187
    it's a bad game bcuz it isn't innovative at all..combats tera w/o animation locks...will keep the attention of the average FPS player..better quest design than most MMOs out there but there is still no point to it all..you never really achieve anything..greatest WoW raiders or arena players are still stomped by patches or expansions and the same will happen here when you follow this design...territory and resource control..should add that to cyrrodil, and make it pve encompassing too :)

     I just love the very first point.  For a game to be good it must be innovative.  By that statement WoW is a complete flop since Blizzard has copied basically evey aspect of WoW from other games.  

    As for the rest of the rambling, when you develop your own successful AAA MMO, then your opinion might have an once of weight, but until then it is just like all the rest of ours.  An opinion.  Don't like the game, cool.  No one game is for everyone.

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  • ZalmonZalmon Member Posts: 319
    Originally posted by Satarious
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
    Originally posted by Whitebeards
    Originally posted by Gestankfaust
     

    lol...you are so getting bent over me saying that people are morons that think ESO is terrible. Well...they are. But you getting so excited about it amuses me. Never called you a name. Guess I don't need to though huh?

     

    No...It's not a terrible game. If you think so, you are a moron. Terrible games are easy to spot and are not played by many. You know what I am talking about...so does everyone else. To say a game is "terrible" means something. Something no real MMO player can say about ESO whether you like it or not. When you realize this, you'll finally get it.

    All MMOs are played by many at release. That doesn't mean anything.

    And you can call people morons for having their opinion but while doing that you are ignoring the obvious irony. I am quite calm and collected by the way. if i was excited i would lose my head over a video game and start abusing people for having a different taste .

    I didn't know you were the authority appointed by masses to define what is a 'real MMO player'. if only you could listen to yourself talking right now hahah!!

     

    Once again...for the slow....

     

    A "terrible game" it is not. A game for you? May be not. WHAT DO YOU NOT GET?!?!

    What would be even more interesting is what he considers a "great game".  I wouldn't be surprised if it were Panda Express Online.  It just goes to show that we, as humans, have vastly different ideas of what we consider "great" and "terrible".

    Can you read his mind or something ? lol 

    By the way my girlfriend thinks this game is terrible.thats her opinion doesn"t mean she is liar and i dont flip out and start abusing her.

    I think game is good we are all different. 

  • LordZeikLordZeik Member UncommonPosts: 276
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<
  • ZzadZzad Member UncommonPosts: 1,401

    Thank You OP!

    :P

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by LordZeik
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<

    +1 agreed

  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by Latronus
    Originally posted by rogue187
    it's a bad game bcuz it isn't innovative at all..combats tera w/o animation locks...will keep the attention of the average FPS player..better quest design than most MMOs out there but there is still no point to it all..you never really achieve anything..greatest WoW raiders or arena players are still stomped by patches or expansions and the same will happen here when you follow this design...territory and resource control..should add that to cyrrodil, and make it pve encompassing too :)

     I just love the very first point.  For a game to be good it must be innovative.  By that statement WoW is a complete flop since Blizzard has copied basically evey aspect of WoW from other games.  

    As for the rest of the rambling, when you develop your own successful AAA MMO, then your opinion might have an once of weight, but until then it is just like all the rest of ours.  An opinion.  Don't like the game, cool.  No one game is for everyone.

    I don't advocate WoW nor did i say it was innovative..its success it w/e it is..i really don't give a shit..yet you can't deny  its the staple that every themepark has tried to copy, tried different combat, add meaningless features etc..the point is that PVP is the only thing thats interesting anymore..how great is an encounter when you know EXACTLY WHAT TO DO TO COUNTER IT...makes the entire experience bullshit..and by the way, i like the game, for what it is..i just dont like what it is

  • ProblemProblem Member UncommonPosts: 77
    Originally posted by DEAD.line

    While i haven't purshased the ESO and therefore won't be playing (probably while it's still P2P, perhaps), i wish a fun time on those of who have bought it, that you enjoy yourselves tomorrow and that the game is worth it to you guys. 

     

     

     

    hehe, they won't get my sarcastic trolling

    jk

     

       Fixed.

    Citizen: Preach your filth elsewhere!

  • ShavaKaShavaKa Member UncommonPosts: 91
    Originally posted by LordZeik
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<

    Exactly what I would say, except it's missing hate.

  • ZalmonZalmon Member Posts: 319
    Originally posted by LordZeik
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<

    You think like that because of your hate for F2P system. It is silly to assume that only people think that its a bad game because its not F2P.

    Seriously where do you people come up with this garbage? lol

    Its like people are trying to convince themselves as to why they like the game.

  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,371
    Thanks op.... I will.
  • rogue187rogue187 Member Posts: 151
    Originally posted by ShavaKa
    Originally posted by LordZeik
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<

    Exactly what I would say, except it's missing hate.

    just gonna be lolin when ppl are complaining in june

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by rogue187
    Your all being children now..the games a short life themepark..let them  throw their  money at it...doubt it equal the..what..200mil they spent on it? Really wish they went sandbox with this

    and this helps how? I'd like a sandbox also .....and warm winters in Canada ...and the Toronto Maple Leafs to be the best team in the NHL , but reality is I'm not getting any of those things ,,,so life goes on

  • Soki123Soki123 Member RarePosts: 2,558
    Originally posted by Zalmon
    Originally posted by LordZeik
    Why do I get the impression that ESO is only a bad game to these people because it isn't a f2p cash shop Iwinfest? Granted if you lose in pvp you can't say the other dude spent thousands of dollars. We're less than twelve hours to go for ESO. Hopefully this game strikes a huge victory against the f2p market that has sullied our mmorpgs for all these years. >_<

    You think like that because of your hate for F2P system. It is silly to assume that only people think that its a bad game because its not F2P.

    Seriously where do you people come up with this garbage? lol

    Lol, I could care less if it s F2P, I think the game is crap. I m so confused how people can t see that not everyone will like TESO, lol.

  • TheBlackWolfTheBlackWolf Member UncommonPosts: 48
    I wanted to like ESO, i even pre ordered the CE, but i ended up cancelling after the beta weekends, i too think its a sub par MMO, but i won't bash it, thats just my opinion, for everyone who is looking forward to the game, i genuinely wish the game the best and hope you all have a blast, the game isn't for me, but for those that like it, more power to you and i hope it scratches that itch that isn't being scratched by any other current mmo.
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