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you guys need to see this.. holy crap i didnt know that.

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  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Teala

    Never seen it...sorry.

    That is cool, so I hope you learned something today then.  Let me post this again:

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/678051-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/67215260

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=123590/blizzard-charges-a-verification-fee

     

     

    Good post that should be read by those that actually don't know you get an authorization fee charge that can be changed into the months fee or just added back in with no actually notice on your statement.  I was going to search for something because it's amazing people deny or don't know about it.

    I even had a 1 dollar authorization fee for buying a game from gamersgame since it's based out of the EU and got a call from my CC company if this was correct and the dollar would be allowed to be held.

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    No, I think you are wrong or maybe things are just differently where you are. I've played all those games and never had a pre-auth on any of them. And I go over my finances on a regular basis, so I definitely would have seen it if it was there. The same thing goes for gas stations as you mentioned previously. None in my state, except the ones trying to rip you off, would dare try this. Mine only ever shows the pending charge in the exact amount Im purchasing. So please stop stating things as fact. Maybe in your state, (i cant presume to know how things are done in your state just like you shouldnt presume in mine) or maybe it's just the card you're using, in which case I would switch to another card company.

    If you are in North America is is the norm and it happens.  If you are in Europe, I don't know how it works.  If you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happened.  It happened.  It is fact. People are trying to make a mountain over a mole hill at this point.

    It says you are from NJ, some state as me.  Rift, FFXIV, WoW, Aion and all those subscription games had the authorization charge.  It is amazing to me how people don't understand the basic fundamentals of credit cards (it isn't just one "credit card company" that does it).  I though people were trolling at first, but now I am convinced people just don't know.

  • hockeyplayrhockeyplayr Member UncommonPosts: 604
    I checked my account and i have a temporary authorization for $14.99 but it has been sitting there for a couple days it never posted.  I mean usually it is only $1 to see if a card is valid but really what's the difference.  You weren't actually charged for it.
  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433
    Originally posted by indef

    Pro-tip:  If it is actually important to you financially that a company is pre-authorizing $15 on your account, you really need to re-consider your life choices.  Time to stop bitching about games and go find a job.

     

    In b4 "it's the principal" argument.

    Talk to a beginning employee in a southern European country who wants to play a game in his free time but barely gets around with the money he's making.

    Or a guy in Germany who combines a number of underpaid mini-jobs and wants to relax after his hours.

    Or a student who has to pay back a hefty loan.

    etc...

    You're being quite ignorant, just saying. Games are fairly cheap forms of entertainment, but that doesn't mean everyone out there is happy, willing or able to set aside $15 dollars for nothing.

     

    We'll see how it turns out, but it seems like a fishy practice to me.

     

     

     

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • Jadedangel1Jadedangel1 Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    No, I think you are wrong or maybe things are just differently where you are. I've played all those games and never had a pre-auth on any of them. And I go over my finances on a regular basis, so I definitely would have seen it if it was there. The same thing goes for gas stations as you mentioned previously. None in my state, except the ones trying to rip you off, would dare try this. Mine only ever shows the pending charge in the exact amount Im purchasing. So please stop stating things as fact. Maybe in your state, (i cant presume to know how things are done in your state just like you shouldnt presume in mine) or maybe it's just the card you're using, in which case I would switch to another card company.

    If you are in North America is is the norm and it happens.  If you are in Europe, I don't know how it works.  If you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happened.  It happened.  It is fact. People are trying to make a mountain over a mole hill at this point.

    It says you are from NJ, some state as me.  Rift, FFXIV, WoW, Aion and all those subscription games had the authorization charge.  It is amazing to me how people don't understand the basic fundamentals of credit cards.  I though people were trolling at first, but now I am convinced people just don't know.

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges. I'm not saying it doesn't happen at all, but not as frequently as you are saying, nor in the amount in which they're being charged, and definitely not for the length of time some people are claiming. I'm a bit OCD when it comes to my finances (do my own bookkeeping besides bank statements, get e-mailed for every new charge, etc) so I would have noticed at least one of them if it ever happened on my card, and I have been subbed at one point or another to many games. Maybe it's not that people aren't understanding, maybe it's you and your card? Have you thought about that? Maybe its different for people with cards from banks/companies not well known or something like that (its doubtful, but I'm just throwing ideas out here). I would check my card company if I frequently got these charges as you seem to, especially from gas stations as you mentioned (if I was you, I would switch gas stations too), as it is definitely not the norm for everyone. If you don't want to believe me or others on here that have said the same, then that's fine with me. But please stop spouting things on here as fact, when you clearly don't have access to every gamer's account to prove that or bank sources showing that everyone gets charged in same way.

  • archeagekingarcheageking Member Posts: 88

    guys its not just $1 they charged, it seems its $14.99+ tax thats being charged.

    this is not some $1 authroization charge they claim it to be. With TAX!!! whhhhat?

  • CeldrynCeldryn Member Posts: 84
    Originally posted by archeageking

    guys its not just $1 they charged, it seems its $14.99+ tax thats being charged.

    this is not some $1 authroization charge they claim it to be. With TAX!!! whhhhat?

    I tell you what, why don't you post a screenie of it. Please for your own sake black out anything important but show us what we need to see.

  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993

    Ihmo, regardless of what it's for, they should have just warned people before they were about to put their details in, considering the amount. Some people paid for 2  accounts and some even went for the 6 months. Seeing that amount coming out of your account would be bit of a shock for anyone. If they just had a little warning at the start saying;

     

    "An extra charge will be made to your card as a pre-authentication, in the amount of ........, Do you agree?"

     

    This would have saved them and players a lot of ball ache and confusion. 

  • Four0SixFour0Six Member UncommonPosts: 1,175

    My question is this:

    Why do I need to set up a sub plan, to play the 30 days that came with the game?

    This is a VALID question. It is CRAP that the claim is being made that in the history of MMOs this has been the norm.

    The charge can be debated left, right, up , down, but the problem I see comes before the charge is even assessed. I should not have to set up a sub-plan to access days I have paid for. This is the argument most are voicing, although it seems they have been unclear about their complaint.

    The argument about authorization charge, $1, 1 euro, blah blah, is a Red Herring argument.

     

    Meh, my 2 pennies I will keep away form ESO. :)

  • archeagekingarcheageking Member Posts: 88

    You guys keep saying its pre authorization thing, but to me its getting realllllly reallly shady. I mean which mmo charges you $14.99+ sales tax in the first free month?

     

    Its getting really really shady. Who does that??????????????

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by archeageking

    You guys keep saying its pre authorization thing, but to me its getting realllllly reallly shady. I mean which mmo charges you $14.99+ sales tax in the first free month?

     

    Its getting really really shady. Who does that??????????????

    No MMO company does. Zenimax is special and unique.

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by archeageking

    You guys keep saying its pre authorization thing, but to me its getting realllllly reallly shady. I mean which mmo charges you $14.99+ sales tax in the first free month?

    Don't worry, it will be reversed in a day or two.  It isn't an actual charge.

  • CreatorzimCreatorzim Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Why dont you just provide some proof and the debate would be over.

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  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158
    Originally posted by archeageking

    You guys keep saying its pre authorization thing, but to me its getting realllllly reallly shady. I mean which mmo charges you $14.99+ sales tax in the first free month?

     

    Its getting really really shady. Who does that??????????????

    Why does it matter when you get the money back? Or in the case of paypal, they cancel the payment when its been authorized so the money never leaves your account.

  • CreatorzimCreatorzim Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by Jimmy562
    Originally posted by archeageking

    You guys keep saying its pre authorization thing, but to me its getting realllllly reallly shady. I mean which mmo charges you $14.99+ sales tax in the first free month?

     

    Its getting really really shady. Who does that??????????????

    Why does it matter when you get the money back? Or in the case of paypal, they cancel the payment when its been authorized so the money never leaves your account.

    Because some people like using their money when they want.

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  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Creatorzim
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Why dont you just provide some proof and the debate would be over.

    I already posted links for FFXIV and WoW.  How can I prove a negative anyway?  If it didn't happen, how can I prove it didn't happen?

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Which MMOS? i played them all never got pre authroized for full price of sub.

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Which MMOS? i played them all never got pre authroized for full price of sub.

    I am not talking about $15 dollar authorization.  People are saying there is no authorization which is what I am arguing.  If you want to come in in the middle of a convo, learn to read the context.

  • CreatorzimCreatorzim Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Creatorzim
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Why dont you just provide some proof and the debate would be over.

    I already posted links for FFXIV and WoW.  How can I prove a negative anyway?  If it didn't happen, how can I prove it didn't happen?

    You arent proving a negative you are proving a positive. We cant show you that this doesnt happen, but you can show us that this does happen. Just show us people talking about this for each game when they came out. 

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  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1

    I'm in North America, In NJ, and again, no, I have never had those charges.

    If you played those MMOs I mentioned you have.

    Which MMOS? i played them all never got pre authroized for full price of sub.

    I am not talking about $15 dollar authorization.  People are saying there is no authorization which is what I am arguing.  If you want to come in in the middle of a convo, learn to read the context.

    The whole topic is about pre authorization and that is what i am talking about. Even if it is 1 dollar which is the basic fee for pre authorization, no mmo company has ever done that. 

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Creatorzim

    You arent proving a negative you are proving a positive. We cant show you that this doesnt happen, but you can show us that this does happen. Just show us people talking about this for each game when they came out. 

    I already did, showed and example of the most recent MMO that did this which was FFXIV:ARR.  

  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    The whole topic is about pre authorization and that is what i am talking about. Even if it is 1 dollar which is the basic fee for pre authorization, no mmo company has ever done that. 

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/678051-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/67215260

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=123590/blizzard-charges-a-verification-fee

    Really?  Want me to find more examples for you?

  • CreatorzimCreatorzim Member UncommonPosts: 274
    Originally posted by SoMuchMass
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    The whole topic is about pre authorization and that is what i am talking about. Even if it is 1 dollar which is the basic fee for pre authorization, no mmo company has ever done that. 

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/678051-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/67215260

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=123590/blizzard-charges-a-verification-fee

    Really?  Want me to find more examples for you?

    Those are both for $1 where the ones for $15?

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  • SoMuchMassSoMuchMass Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by Creatorzim

    Those are both for $1 where the ones for $15?

    I replied to a  person that said no MMO company even charges $1 dollar, correct?

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