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Wildstar.. Are you going to miss the Bandwagon

KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687

Reading different opinions on Wilstar, its so clearly apparent that the consensus is definitely split.. You either love it.. Or you hate it.
I haven't seen to many fence sitters, or at least not many that are posting.

I will be honest.
When I first got to play the WS beta, on a friends account.. Meh..Did not like it at all. Played 30 min and uninstalled it. To Cartoony for me, plus I got to play TESO beta and loved it.
Then a strange thing happened. After playing the TESO Beta for many many hours, I realized I honestly just didn't like the style of game that it was. Dont get me wrong, there are some incredible things about TESO, but it wasn't "My Style", so I uninstalled it.
This left me with a quandary. What do now.

So I went back to Wildstar. Since I didn't have a whole lot of options, I figured I would give it til level 10 and then decide.
After playing Wildstar I realized it was what I had been looking for. A Game that has both PvE and PvP content, Solid Crafting, and even some things I hadnt seen before..

I was hooked.

Now as Im having withdrawals and reading anything I can find on Wildstar, one thing is apparent.

Wilstar will be one of the most complete MMOs to release in many many years.. If not since WoW.

I was reading an article today from Pax East and it made me giddy. Here is just a simple statement that made the game that much better for me.


Artifacts
So you have epic (purple) and legendary (orange) items, but there's also "epics" -- aka pinks. Artifacts are the best of the best. Each class has two types of artifact weapons, one for assault and one for support. Everybody has the ability to earn their artifact weapon assuming they are able to participate in the most difficult content in WildStar. Artifact items have really, really good stats, but if you want to unlock the full potential of these items you are going to have to do some "really crazy" stuff. For example, one artifact quest will require you to kill two 40-person bosses at one time

I mean seriously, how much fun does that sound like.. You have to kill 2 40 man raid bosses at a time to get your artifact weapon. That sounds like its going to be a blast.

Now the question remains.

Are you going to be on the Bandwagon from launch?

Or

Are you going to be one of those who is behind the curve because you waited til you hear from everyone how epic the game is?

The Choice is Yours.

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  • AroukosAroukos Member Posts: 571

    You know whats the best in this artifact thing you said? The 2 bosses required to unlock it, are indeed in the 40 man raid BUT are 2 EXTRA bosses, available only for the specific quest.

    Reminds some good old days to me :)

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785

    I will be missing this bandwagon for sure.

    Loving ESO, but if it flops and I lose interest I'll just go back to WoW, shut my mouth, and stop looking at other MMO's.

  • snoockysnoocky Member UncommonPosts: 726

    My choice is:

    I'm not interested in Wildstar what so ever.

    You left that option out....

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  • DarwaDarwa Member UncommonPosts: 2,181
    To use your analogy; I jumped on the bandwagon, looked around, then dived off into a greener pasture.
  • AroukosAroukos Member Posts: 571
    Originally posted by Rusque

    I will be missing this bandwagon for sure.

    Loving ESO, but if it flops and I lose interest I'll just go back to WoW, shut my mouth, and stop looking at other MMO's.

     

    Done the same many many times before, but this one i wont :)

  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687

    Like I posted.. you either Love it or Hate it.

    I wish there was a way to to go back and see how many people hate it now, but in a few months are playing it.

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  • killion81killion81 Member UncommonPosts: 995

    I feel like lots of people haven't looked beyond a few screenshots.  They see one or two and immediately say "ZOMG it's a WOW clone!  LOLZ!!1!" and just stop looking.  It will be interesting to see if the game is able to draw more players after the first month or if it follows the trend of recent releases.

  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687


    Originally posted by killion81
    I feel like lots of people haven't looked beyond a few screenshots.  They see one or two and immediately say "ZOMG it's a WOW clone!  LOLZ!!1!" and just stop looking.  It will be interesting to see if the game is able to draw more players after the first month or if it follows the trend of recent releases.

    I think your Spot on.

    I see Wildstar building slowly. I dont think its going to have epic numbers at release.I think once folks reach end game and share streams, videos and such, that it will grow rapidly.

    Also by launch time, TESO will have been out for almost 90 days and that's about the average turn around time for people to make their decisions on a game.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    Are you going to be one of those who is behind the curve because you waited til you hear from everyone how epic the game is?

    The Choice is Yours.

    Behind the curve in a Themepark? It's not like that can't be remedied rather quickly in this sort of game. As for Wildstar itself, nothing I've seen so far has really generated much interest in it for me.

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  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    Wilstar will be one of the most complete MMOs to release in many many years.. If not since WoW.

    Um... before I address the thread.... I had to address this point. You do realize WoW wasn't very complete when it launched right? To the point WoW would of been blasted and burned for being a rather poor launch both having many issues plaguing it, as well as lacking actual content to do. A lot of modern games have done VASTLY more then what wow had at launch (pretty much every triple A MMO released). Seriously, it was HORRIBLE compare to the standards we have today.

     

    As far as WIldstar goes, as someone who loves wildstar and enjoys it... I'm sorry but your going overboard with it. its a fun game and all, but its just silly to have that absolute "Its epic, your either in or late".  It has a lot coming with it, but it also has its own flaws. I do feel it has the ability to be a really strong MMo and that I feel many who give it a chance who stop with the childish "But its  all cartoony, I don't want people to think I'm a little kid!" might find the game very enjoyable, but that won't be everyone. 

     

    NO bandwagon is good to jump on out of the gate. As much as I want people to play the game and I feel its great, its not good to just blindly jump onto an MMo. Your throwing money at something you might not potentially like if you just blindly follow along. If your on the fence there is no reason to jump on the other side until your comfortable enough to do so. Just cause you start late won't ruin your chances of getting anywhere in the game, its not a sandbox.  The bandwagon fallacy is a terrible one for the consumer. Join because you enjoy the idea (ideally after trying it) and because you believe in the company. Don't just join in since "Everyone is doing it". 

  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,045


    Originally posted by snoocky
    My choice is:I'm not interested in Wildstar what so ever.You left that option out....
    If you were truly not interested in Wildstar "what so ever" then you would not be posting about it.
  • theNILVtheNILV Member UncommonPosts: 49

    I'm still thinking about buying wildstar, even tho i'm 100% sure that i would switch it to Archeage after its live :P Going to give it final try in next beta, maybe they fixed most of those annoying issues that i had with game before. Like shitty UI (i know they got new one). I think there is enough value in game to play one month and stop playing, so it's still probably great buy. 

    Wildstar is not that appealing from PvP point of view, but i'm happy that PvE is good for people who enjoy it :D

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  • OberholzerOberholzer Member Posts: 498
    I'm on the fence. Considering trying this game out but haven't decided yet so there's a +1 for I don't love it or hate it. Seems like it might be fun.
  • ShainnaShainna Member UncommonPosts: 58

    I tried the beta on TESO and Wildstar and quite frankly both have their strong points and both have their misses.

     

    TESO has great lore and environment but the combat is clunky and i disliked what they did to the magic system as well as gating skills behind classes, so it's a no buy for me.

     

    Wildstar seems fun, the housing system is great, the combat needs getting used to but nothing that difficult, however i was bored out of my mind all the time, boring quest lines (the path system was dull dull dull), never been this bored in the begginer areas of an mmo before and that put me really off.

     

    I'm the kind of player that enjoys the leveling far more than the endgame and none of those games (as they are now) had enough for me to enjoy playing them. I'll keep my eyes on them tho, how each dev team develops the game might make me reconsider an buy one of them, time will tell.

  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687


    Originally posted by Nilv
    I'm still thinking about buying wildstar, even tho i'm 100% sure that i would switch it to Archeage after its live :P Going to give it final try in next beta, maybe they fixed most of those annoying issues that i had with game before. Like shitty UI (i know they got new one). I think there is enough value in game to play one month and stop playing, so it's still probably great buy. 

    Wildstar is not that appealing from PvP point of view, but i'm happy that PvE is good for people who enjoy it :D



    As for the UI, it was completely redone.

    Here is the current list from Latest Patch..

    Wildstar Patch Notes

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    My times of 40 man raiding are years behind me and under no circumstance i plan to ever go back to that. I guess Blizzard did not bunk 40 mans because they were so popular and everybody loved to take part - so instead of cheering on Wildstar for having 40s,  i rather suspect Carbine repeated a mistake of which even stubbbborn Blizzard learned years ago already.

    And since i'm not into PvP anymore, i guess whats left for me is 4 dungeons and housing. as far as i know there are not even pets in the game (correct me if i am wrong here), so i doubt Carbine has a major interest in providing casual PvE content.

    So the endgame's direction of mainly raids and PvP does not sell the game to me. But i'm still open minded and will keep on following the game until like after 1-2 big patches.

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  • JaedorJaedor Member UncommonPosts: 1,173

    I never expected to like Wildstar but friends were playing it and I got a beta key. Tried it and really enjoyed the combat. In contrast, I expected to love ESO and felt very "meh" after a beta weekend. So Wildstar got my preorder money, though I do not expect to sub at this time.

  • VicDynamoVicDynamo Member Posts: 234
    Let's get real here - WildStar does not need a bandwagon and you cannot miss it. The game will be here, even for folks that are understandably skeptical of the genre and don't want to be burned again.


    There is a solid long-running community has already helped to shape the game. The hypersheep will always bounce from game to game and if that's you, you will never stick with anything so enjoy your perpetual mountains and valleys.

    WildStar is hands down the most feature complete MMORPG at launch in the history of the genre. WildStar is damn proud of it's MMO pedigree and has worked toward making familiar systems fun and interesting instead of being embarrased of MMO tradition. It's the true evolution in MMO and because it doesn't have a gimmick, its hella hard to market.


    The game doesn't need people who jump in because they're looking for some pie in the sky perfection that will never happen. It is what it is and Carbine is as real as it gets when they talk about their game.


    Less hypetrain and more deep dives into what makes this game special.
  • TiconzTiconz Member UncommonPosts: 120
    Originally posted by Volgore

    My times of 40 man raiding are years behind me and under no circumstance i plan to ever go back to that. I guess Blizzard did not bunk 40 mans because they were so popular and everybody loved to take part - so instead of cheering on Wildstar for having 40s,  i rather suspect Carbine repeated a mistake of which even stubbbborn Blizzard learned years ago already.

    And since i'm not into PvP anymore, i guess whats left for me is 4 dungeons and housing. as far as i know there are not even pets in the game (correct me if i am wrong here), so i doubt Carbine has a major interest in providing casual PvE content.

    So the endgame's direction of mainly raids and PvP does not sell the game to me. But i'm still open minded and will keep on following the game until like after 1-2 big patches.

    I agree that 40 mans are not for everybody but I love the fact that Carbine is putting out 40 man content.  I haven't played WoW since Vanilla but many have told me that the difficulty became much more casual and less challenging as it evolved through its expansions.  40 Man Content is strictly for the hardcore... anyone who experienced them know how painful it can be to maintain an organized raid for an extended period of time and its not a surprise that its for a smaller fan base.

    I feel like you can probably form a casual global pug for the 20 man content but even that is going to take some organizing.  You have the 4 dungeons + 5 ( might be wrong on this ) Adventures + the vet versions so it does have some content that you could mess around with.  

    I have to say one of my favorite features of Wildstar are the challenges that you can do which has housing rewards.  With the removal of building blocks counting towards your item limit, you can create some really cool housing plots.  Its a shame that they are instanced because I have had the pleasure of seeing some really cool places.

    If you don't end up playing, I hope that you will find a MMO that you enjoy! :D


  • DEAD.lineDEAD.line Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    Reading different opinions on Wilstar, its so clearly apparent that the consensus is definitely split.. You either love it.. Or you hate it.
     

    Not im my case. I'm interested in the housing, customization, combat and pvp (ow and warplots). Unfortunatly, i haven't played yet. If the pvp isn't good, then i'll lose interested, but potential is definitely there. Don't care much about the pve or raids, but atleast it's somethign to do in my case.

    Off topic. Krimzin, is this ride really yours? Only noticed it now. Really nice my friend.

  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687


    Originally posted by Prhyme
    Let's get real here - WildStar does not need a bandwagon and you cannot miss it. The game will be here, even for folks that are understandably skeptical of the genre and don't want to be burned again.
    There is a solid long-running community has already helped to shape the game. The hypersheep will always bounce from game to game and if that's you, you will never stick with anything so enjoy your perpetual mountains and valleys.WildStar is hands down the most feature complete MMORPG at launch in the history of the genre. WildStar is damn proud of it's MMO pedigree and has worked toward making familiar systems fun and interesting instead of being embarrased of MMO tradition. It's the true evolution in MMO and because it doesn't have a gimmick, its hella hard to market.
    The game doesn't need people who jump in because they're looking for some pie in the sky perfection that will never happen. It is what it is and Carbine is as real as it gets when they talk about their game.
    Less hypetrain and more deep dives into what makes this game special.

    Well Said.

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  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687

    Thank You.
    And Yes it is indeed..

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  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610
    The combat was really fun. I'll play it when I get bored of ESO.

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  • FearTHeFroFearTHeFro Member UncommonPosts: 76

    The game isn't for everyone, in fact I probably think most people wont even give it a try because it will be "too cartoony" and "not very newb friendly". But the people who will play/enjoy this type of mmo will have some of the best experiences they've had in a very long time, I guarantee it.

    The only thing ill say is that AT LEAST give it a try, don't play until level 10 and say oh man these graphics are too cartoony or the questing is just boring/and all these other cynical comments I read all over the forums. I think people are expecting mmos to come out with these amazing new super innovative new things and completely change the genre, but that's just not going to happen.

    Wildstar doesn't exactly innovate the genre, but its the most solid/well built mmo I've seen in a very long time. It has things to do for players of all types, except for the people who expect everything to be given to them for free even though they don't invest as much time as other players.

  • theNILVtheNILV Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Originally posted by FearTHeFro

     I think people are expecting mmos to come out with these amazing new super innovative new things and completely change the genre, but that's just not going to happen.

    Funny thing is that we are actually going back :D Freedom is going to be next super innovative thing in MMO's... And i'm quite excited about that. 

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