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Public Dungeons Are The Same
FlyByKnight
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There isn't much in the way of variation for public dungeons. Is this even up for debate. I'm sure this is something that all ESO players can agree on.
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Its an irritator for sure.....
so much things look identical, its not really fun...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Except... none of the posters above you have defended anything. Not only that you are completely off topic and come across as a obsessive poster trying to derail yet another topic. Well done.
The map dungeon designs are very similar to each other. In DC you have dwemer ruins, aylied ruins and caves. Theres usually one main route to the end then a quick door back to the start, similar to Skyrim dungeons. Throw in a few spider webs in some of them just to make the cave look different I guess
I am not sure what you mean by public dungeons. You mean underground "dungeons" which are persistent? There is a lot of copy pasting in ESO. I have seen so many interiors which look identical.
TES games tend to use a lot of copy pasting. This was very obvious in Oblivion (Oblivion was one big copy paste) and Skyrim. But ESO is even worse than regular TES games.
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Yes, they do have a few standard templates that they use for indoors encounters. There is a basic elven ruins template; a basic public dungeon template; and so on. The quests do tend to have unique locations attached to them, and the large outdoors zones are unique and very well crafted. I do hope that they add some more variety to these areas; it's a drawback, but not a huge one given the outdoors places where you can see a variety of scenery and the unique quest locales.
(This is utterly typical for ES games and it's a consequence of having so many locations and so much real estate. It's not a surprise...)
I'm conflicted on this issue.
On the gamey side of things, I'd like to see more random deigns. It's more fun to dungeon crawl, at least to me.
On the world consistency / cultural lore appropriateness it makes sense. Societies tend to build from sensible patterns that are contextual to their time. I don't think it's common to hire an architect and say, "Build me something totally random with confusing pathways." Most things are purpose built.
/sarcasm off
i think necropie was being sarcastic....
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
He was being sarcastic in the first half, and then the second half he was attacking the "fanboys". Which I agree was rather odd since there hasn't been any fanboy posts suggesting the game is perfect in this thread. So he's just making himself look like a dick.
Every Elder Scrolls game uses tile sets which you can know right away by opening the Construction Set for every game since Morrowind (or using the map in Daggerfall). It's actually a good system because it allows for creative use of connecting the tiles to add variety. There are specific looks, but two individual dungeons are rarely layed out identically in any Elder Scrolls game (even Oblivion which probably handled dungeons the worst by not adding any flavor).
ESO is straight up copy-paste Dragon Age 2 style. No thought went into the public dungeons or interior spaces at all. In Morrowind you might have a "Telvanni-style" or "Imperial-style" tileset, but in ESO the same floorplan = a monastery, an inn, a castle etc. It's shameless the level of copy-paste in this game.
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Oh no! A MMO game that has recycled content!
Name one MMO which doesn't recycle content in any manner. Equipment models, NPCs, maps/levels, structures, and/or entire instances are recycled in every MMO I can think of. Some even make you run the same instances you did while leveling. Think "expert" or "veteran" mode dungeons like what SWTOR does.
Most dungeons maps basically look like this. I'm not even kidding.
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I remember when Final Fantasy 14 Online launched and got a lot of bad mouthing for copy/paste of some rocks and landscape, although it was a lot less in your face and the game also looked a lot better graphically than TESO does.
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Personally I don't mind copy paste if it is done properly so you don't really see it everywhere. For example copy/pasted houses in a city can be done right by rotating assets and changing textures or colours.
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You have a point. Alot of MMO's recycle content. But ESO tends to recycle the same content alot faster then most other MMO's. Before its overwith you will have run the same dungeon template atleast 3-4 times before you even start the vetern content in ESO. I hate to see how many times you have experienced the same crypt dungeon when its all said an done.. Atleast 10+ times I would imagine.