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Why do people consider Wildstar a childish game?

PhertiasPhertias Member UncommonPosts: 51

When people are asked if they want to play Wildstar or not, the no-sayers always reply with "its a childish game etc. etc."

Why is that exactly? 

Graphics are cartoony, so what? Im an adult now, but as far as I am concerned, me and my approximately 30 gamer friends have only cared about the graphics of the game when we were actual children. Now, the graphcis doesnt mean shit. Really, it doesnt. I remember when it was all about good graphics. CounterStrike, Age of Conan, Vanguard. Never play WoW because it was too "childish" in graphics. Childish = Cartoonies? I really dont think so. 

Then people claim the animations are too childish as well. Limited to no blood, fun combat animations and childish art design. So what, a game needs nudity, blood and gore in order to be "mature". Thats only according to PEGI and the sorts. Also, anyone who have played any game with poor combat animations in a "mature" game know that fun combat animations are waaaay more awesome to look at than static combat. Whoever would prefer static combat animations above fluent combat animations should really check their list of priorities because they might do something wrong. 

The last and most important issue is: Why do people dont want to play it they think it is childish? I mean if it actually was childish, then it wouldnt be a bad thing because 2 words that almost always go hand in hand is childish and fun. And what do games need to be? Fun! 

Now let me tell why people dont want to play a fun and "childish" game. It is because they are either afraid of playing with immature children OR because they got identity issues and are afraid of being categorized as children or childish. Firstly, if you dont want to play a game because youre afraid to be categorized, then youre the childish one. Categorization was a problem in elementary school and maybe high school. But for mature adults in a online game where you identity is disguised in form of an avatar? Please, people dont give a rats ass. Secondly, if youre actually afraid of playing with children, then maybe you should do your research on games a little better. MMORPGs are some of the hardest and most expensive games in the world and when games like LoL and CoD exist, most children tend to that playground instead of the MMORPG market. Secondly, with all the ESO vs. WS going on lately, most people who have played both games know that the WS community is way more mature than the ESO community. Why? Because ESO is based on the ES saga which includes Skyrim which just impressed millions of children worldwide and motivated them to try out ESO.

Wildstar has nothing to offer children so of course, no children would ever play it. Why does Wildstar has nothing to offer children? Because it is childish. Children are afraid to look like children in a game so they disguise themselves in "mature" games with blood,gore, sex and high graphics. Meanwhile, mature people who dont give a damn their self-portrait in an online world tend to Wildstar because the game got what matters. A soul, a fun combat system and a high-end skill cap.

So get the point please. Wildstar is not a childish game. If you need an argument to not buy the game, find a relevant one

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  • xeniarxeniar Member UncommonPosts: 805

    have you seen the way the commercial is set up? :P says it all tbh

    the entire game tries to be so much fun its over the top. Their slogan should be OMG theres so much fun to be found here!!! play me!!! fun fun fun. They try not to be serious in any way or form. That combined with those grapichs. Yeah you get childish. Also its the same rubbish as we have seen the last 10 years.

    If you like themeparks go wildstar its created well i think. IF your are done with themeparks stay away from it. far far away

  • Saio3Saio3 Member UncommonPosts: 88
    “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence....." C.S Lewis.
  • DewulfDewulf Member UncommonPosts: 139

    Still I've seen most of kids play runescape or wow.

    Kids favour  cartoonish games.

     

    And still graphics are one of the most important thing in video games.

  • PurutzilPurutzil Member UncommonPosts: 3,048

    Because those people are insecure with themselves, whether they are teens or just immature adults who allow art style and cartoon-ish graphics dictate if something is childish or not. That is really all there is to it. To some people, random tits and blood with little story and just pure 'dark as can be' lore is perfectly mature and intelligent while more colorful style with actual characters with character arcs and intelligent righting not all about violence or sex is just too 'kiddy' for their liking.

     

    None the less, consider it a blessing. Most who would rail on a game being childish due to its artstyle are likely the lowest common denominator of the MMo world and not really anyone you probably want in your MMO. Not all, mind you, but a good portion. Not saying EVERYTHING with more cartoonish styled graphics has that much depth in it, but it is amazing those people afraid of being judged as a child how thought provoking and enlightening some things (btw, not meaning wildstar, talking in general) can be that are created in that way.

     

    You would be amazed how much more mature a Kid show like Avatar is over your  typical Violence and sex filled usual wares. When people can get over their childish desire to not be considered "childish" for liking stuff like it, I'll be happy to great them and show them such actual good entertainment that would blow away a lot of the crap they watch. For the sake of wildstar, ignore it like a mature person and see how the humor in game is (which isn't anything different at all from what you guys see else were minus some animations) and take the game for what it really is.

  • DewulfDewulf Member UncommonPosts: 139

    "The last and most important issue is: Why do people dont want to play it they think it is childish? I mean if it actually was childish, then it wouldnt be a bad thing because 2 words that almost always go hand in hand is childish and fun. And what do games need to be? Fun! 

    Now let me tell why people dont want to play a fun and "childish" game. It is because they are either afraid of playing with immature children OR because they got identity issues and are afraid of being categorized as children or childish"

     

    Why dont you go play Hello kitty online then? It is FUN and CHILDISH!

     

    RIGHT?

  • LookwhostalkingLookwhostalking Member Posts: 63
    Who cares? I bought and played the "adult" game called ESO (as a fan of oblivion and morrowind) and i got bored after hit 34 lvl. This weekend i m playing the "childish" WS beta and i find it a fine game in many aspects. I m going to pre order it and hope it will be even better at launch. Btw i m 39 years old with 2 kids (oldest one plays LoL).
  • OmnifishOmnifish Member Posts: 616
    Originally posted by Phertias

    When people are asked if they want to play Wildstar or not, the no-sayers always reply with "its a childish game etc. etc."

    Why is that exactly? 

    Graphics are cartoony, so what? Im an adult now, but as far as I am concerned, me and my approximately 30 gamer friends have only cared about the graphics of the game when we were actual children. Now, the graphcis doesnt mean shit. Really, it doesnt. I remember when it was all about good graphics. CounterStrike, Age of Conan, Vanguard. Never play WoW because it was too "childish" in graphics. Childish = Cartoonies? I really dont think so. 

    Then people claim the animations are too childish as well. Limited to no blood, fun combat animations and childish art design. So what, a game needs nudity, blood and gore in order to be "mature". Thats only according to PEGI and the sorts. Also, anyone who have played any game with poor combat animations in a "mature" game know that fun combat animations are waaaay more awesome to look at than static combat. Whoever would prefer static combat animations above fluent combat animations should really check their list of priorities because they might do something wrong. 

    The last and most important issue is: Why do people dont want to play it they think it is childish? I mean if it actually was childish, then it wouldnt be a bad thing because 2 words that almost always go hand in hand is childish and fun. And what do games need to be? Fun! 

    Now let me tell why people dont want to play a fun and "childish" game. It is because they are either afraid of playing with immature children OR because they got identity issues and are afraid of being categorized as children or childish. Firstly, if you dont want to play a game because youre afraid to be categorized, then youre the childish one. Categorization was a problem in elementary school and maybe high school. But for mature adults in a online game where you identity is disguised in form of an avatar? Please, people dont give a rats ass. Secondly, if youre actually afraid of playing with children, then maybe you should do your research on games a little better. MMORPGs are some of the hardest and most expensive games in the world and when games like LoL and CoD exist, most children tend to that playground instead of the MMORPG market. Secondly, with all the ESO vs. WS going on lately, most people who have played both games know that the WS community is way more mature than the ESO community. Why? Because ESO is based on the ES saga which includes Skyrim which just impressed millions of children worldwide and motivated them to try out ESO.

    Wildstar has nothing to offer children so of course, no children would ever play it. Why does Wildstar has nothing to offer children? Because it is childish. Children are afraid to look like children in a game so they disguise themselves in "mature" games with blood,gore, sex and high graphics. Meanwhile, mature people who dont give a damn their self-portrait in an online world tend to Wildstar because the game got what matters. A soul, a fun combat system and a high-end skill cap.

    So get the point please. Wildstar is not a childish game. If you need an argument to not buy the game, find a relevant one

    In red is the reason why, some people won't look beyond that but that's fair enough.

    I thought Rifts graphics were terrible and although I did try it, (and found other elements rubbish as well, which didn't help), I hated the look of the game so much I couldn't be bothered.

    If your gonna stare at something for hours it's going to put you off if you don't like the look of it. The game mechanics have to be pretty outstanding for you to get past the visual element.

    This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!

  • Sajman01Sajman01 Member Posts: 204
    The game lost me when it asked me to escort a stalk of celery to safety.

    I've been doing fetch, escort, and kill quests for 10 years. These activities are no longer fun to do. The enjoyment is in the story that comes along with these quests because its the only feature that is truly original. Now we all have different tastes when it comes to story, personally I grew out of Dr. Seuss by age 8.
  • PhertiasPhertias Member UncommonPosts: 51

    It would make a great childish game if you base it on the surface of the game that is the art style etc. But agian, that is all based on graphics. The humor, which is also a part of the surface, that is presented in the game reminds mostly of TSW and that is not considered a childish game. Yet the humor is not based on the graphics. Again, it comes down to the graphics reminding us that it COULD be a great childish game. But it is not a great childish game. Children would only get to the easy-part of the end game and then quit.

     

    Why does it bother me? Because people who have only tried WS for 10 minutes are accusing it for being childish in a negative manner even though it isnt. When I first tried WS I was impressed with everything (and as a tough MMORPG critic who have pratically tried every game, it was close to a first time), but when I looked at reviews on various websites, it was the ONLY reason that people didnt want to play it. 

    It was the only major reason I could find. Now when you look at other games, it is mostly something valid that is being the major flaud: TSW = Poor combat animations, Rift = Soulless combat and character, Guild Wars 2 = Poor PvE system, Vanguard = Poor game support and I could name many more with reasons that make sense. But a game being childish as its major flaud? 

  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    It seems wildstar itself wants to have this image :)
    their information clips and trailers all contain these funny jokes and style.

    So people might respond to it as "meh to childish"
    Each studio wants to have their own style and image and they can send that message out with these clips and trailers.

    its not my sence of humor but i can nderstand many people who like it tough :)

  • DewulfDewulf Member UncommonPosts: 139

    For me WS's biggest problem is that its not any different from any other game. 

    wow + gw 2 = ws

  • ThorqemadaThorqemada Member UncommonPosts: 1,282

    A Game that has an Advertising-Spot where some idiotic voice tells its mom to live in a "Rocket Home" with that graphic and animations...obvioulsy targets a young playerbase that has not developed a taste yet.

    "Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"

    MWO Music Video - What does the Mech say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF6HYNqCDLI
    Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0x2iwK0BKM

  • AuntieSpeaksAlotAuntieSpeaksAlot Member Posts: 57
    I think of WS as a good Pixar movie.  Enjoyable for everyone.
  • PhertiasPhertias Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Originally posted by Thorqemada

    A Game that has an Advertising-Spot where some idiotic voice tells its mom to live in a "Rocket Home" with that graphic and animations...obvioulsy targets a young playerbase that has not developed a taste yet.

    The advertising spot is made as a joke. A joke against the stereotyped commercials. If you have seen the other trailers, you will see how much they joke about every-God-damn-thing. Besides, NCSoft is one of the most successful companies on the MMORPG market, they would NEVER make such a huge mistake by making a P-to-P MMORPG to the younger audience. The potential playerbase is simply not there. Especially not with games such as LoL on the market. 

  • snoockysnoocky Member UncommonPosts: 726
    If you look at it a mature way..games are childish, all of them. But hey not everyone wants to grow up:)

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.

    Edgar Allan Poe

  • AuntieSpeaksAlotAuntieSpeaksAlot Member Posts: 57
    Originally posted by snoocky
    If you look at it a mature way..games are childish, all of them. But hey not everyone wants to grow up:)

    Office politics is childish- it just pretends not to be

  • RattenmannRattenmann Member UncommonPosts: 613
    1. The grafics are childish, EVEN for a cartoon game. Compare to Landmark, hell even to WOW, and you will see a difference. Wildstar wins the childish grafics award.
    2. The humor ingame and in their trailers is childish.
    3. The facial expressions resemble TV shows for 3 year olds
    4. The combat effects are so overdone like in a Dragon Ball X movie
    5. The questing is so mind numbing, no adult could do that anymore.

     

    Those are my Nr 5 reasons why i see Wildstar as a childish game

    MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

    Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer Member UncommonPosts: 588

    I don't think anyone that isn't trolling would consider the game childish. And if they do, they're mistaking "humorous" for "childish". I prefer Wildstar's way about one million times over the old and boring "doom and gloom" RPG where the world is crumbling, the war has erupted, and everything is lost until you, the hero, come to change it. In Wildstar the world is crumbling, war has erupted, but it's about seeing the positive side of it and having fun playing. The other 3 million games of the market can go ahead with the doom and gloom.

     

    I found a fun fact amongst my group of friends and guildies, and is that a most of the people that find the game "childish" tend to be in the 15-25 years old range, while more mature individuals can look beyond the skin, finding the game fun and generally appealing. Guess some people are just too eager to claim out loud that they're already too adult for cartoons, as if they had something to prove.

    My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  • maple2maple2 Member UncommonPosts: 161
    Originally posted by Phertias

    When people are asked if they want to play Wildstar or not, the no-sayers always reply with "its a childish game etc. etc."

    Why is that exactly? 

    Graphics are cartoony, so what? Im an adult now, but as far as I am concerned, me and my approximately 30 gamer friends have only cared about the graphics of the game when we were actual children. Now, the graphcis doesnt mean shit. Really, it doesnt. I remember when it was all about good graphics. CounterStrike, Age of Conan, Vanguard. Never play WoW because it was too "childish" in graphics. Childish = Cartoonies? I really dont think so. 

    Then people claim the animations are too childish as well. Limited to no blood, fun combat animations and childish art design. So what, a game needs nudity, blood and gore in order to be "mature". Thats only according to PEGI and the sorts. Also, anyone who have played any game with poor combat animations in a "mature" game know that fun combat animations are waaaay more awesome to look at than static combat. Whoever would prefer static combat animations above fluent combat animations should really check their list of priorities because they might do something wrong. 

    The last and most important issue is: Why do people dont want to play it they think it is childish? I mean if it actually was childish, then it wouldnt be a bad thing because 2 words that almost always go hand in hand is childish and fun. And what do games need to be? Fun! 

    Now let me tell why people dont want to play a fun and "childish" game. It is because they are either afraid of playing with immature children OR because they got identity issues and are afraid of being categorized as children or childish. Firstly, if you dont want to play a game because youre afraid to be categorized, then youre the childish one. Categorization was a problem in elementary school and maybe high school. But for mature adults in a online game where you identity is disguised in form of an avatar? Please, people dont give a rats ass. Secondly, if youre actually afraid of playing with children, then maybe you should do your research on games a little better. MMORPGs are some of the hardest and most expensive games in the world and when games like LoL and CoD exist, most children tend to that playground instead of the MMORPG market. Secondly, with all the ESO vs. WS going on lately, most people who have played both games know that the WS community is way more mature than the ESO community. Why? Because ESO is based on the ES saga which includes Skyrim which just impressed millions of children worldwide and motivated them to try out ESO.

    Wildstar has nothing to offer children so of course, no children would ever play it. Why does Wildstar has nothing to offer children? Because it is childish. Children are afraid to look like children in a game so they disguise themselves in "mature" games with blood,gore, sex and high graphics. Meanwhile, mature people who dont give a damn their self-portrait in an online world tend to Wildstar because the game got what matters. A soul, a fun combat system and a high-end skill cap.

    So get the point please. Wildstar is not a childish game. If you need an argument to not buy the game, find a relevant one

    because those people who says so.. are kids and also they dont want a game to better then wow.. and thats a fact.. 

    Wildstar is a Hardcore game for does who like it to be hard instead of that Pony level World of warcraft serves.. what i mean by Pony is that every boss mechanic is the same just used a different way and the game is Old and starting to Crumble to dust and leveling is a joke...

     

    Wildstar brings tons of Fun, Challenge, hardcore content, 20/40 raiding, extreamly large scale pvp, Housing, Warplots u can customize yourself. and much more Wildstar is only abit more cartoonish then world of warcraft but thats how games is. Or else we would have to make the graphics even more intense and people had to buy better Pc's in order to run the games aswell.

     

    90% of all games today are Cartoonish looking, 

    Wow.Rift,Tera,D3,star wars,Wildstar, and alot more games to come are going to be cartoonish thats a fact.

    all major MMO's are Cartoonish get used to it already.

     

    oh and btw if Wildstar is childish why is it that it's mostly grown up that plays it? aswell as hardcore raiding guilds in wow are mostly 20+ even Semi Hardcore only accept 18+

     

    same thing in wildstar semi hardcore 18+ and hardcore 20+ softcore even 18+ aswell due to the fact that they dont want any kids..

  • IkonisIkonis Member UncommonPosts: 245
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by Phertias

    When people are asked if they want to play Wildstar or not, the no-sayers always reply with "its a childish game etc. etc."

    Why is that exactly? 

    Graphics are cartoony, so what? Im an adult now, but as far as I am concerned, me and my approximately 30 gamer friends have only cared about the graphics of the game when we were actual children. Now, the graphcis doesnt mean shit. Really, it doesnt. I remember when it was all about good graphics. CounterStrike, Age of Conan, Vanguard. Never play WoW because it was too "childish" in graphics. Childish = Cartoonies? I really dont think so. 

    Then people claim the animations are too childish as well. Limited to no blood, fun combat animations and childish art design. So what, a game needs nudity, blood and gore in order to be "mature". Thats only according to PEGI and the sorts. Also, anyone who have played any game with poor combat animations in a "mature" game know that fun combat animations are waaaay more awesome to look at than static combat. Whoever would prefer static combat animations above fluent combat animations should really check their list of priorities because they might do something wrong. 

    The last and most important issue is: Why do people dont want to play it they think it is childish? I mean if it actually was childish, then it wouldnt be a bad thing because 2 words that almost always go hand in hand is childish and fun. And what do games need to be? Fun! 

    Now let me tell why people dont want to play a fun and "childish" game. It is because they are either afraid of playing with immature children OR because they got identity issues and are afraid of being categorized as children or childish. Firstly, if you dont want to play a game because youre afraid to be categorized, then youre the childish one. Categorization was a problem in elementary school and maybe high school. But for mature adults in a online game where you identity is disguised in form of an avatar? Please, people dont give a rats ass. Secondly, if youre actually afraid of playing with children, then maybe you should do your research on games a little better. MMORPGs are some of the hardest and most expensive games in the world and when games like LoL and CoD exist, most children tend to that playground instead of the MMORPG market. Secondly, with all the ESO vs. WS going on lately, most people who have played both games know that the WS community is way more mature than the ESO community. Why? Because ESO is based on the ES saga which includes Skyrim which just impressed millions of children worldwide and motivated them to try out ESO.

    Wildstar has nothing to offer children so of course, no children would ever play it. Why does Wildstar has nothing to offer children? Because it is childish. Children are afraid to look like children in a game so they disguise themselves in "mature" games with blood,gore, sex and high graphics. Meanwhile, mature people who dont give a damn their self-portrait in an online world tend to Wildstar because the game got what matters. A soul, a fun combat system and a high-end skill cap.

    So get the point please. Wildstar is not a childish game. If you need an argument to not buy the game, find a relevant one

    In red is the reason why, some people won't look beyond that but that's fair enough.

    I thought Rifts graphics were terrible and although I did try it, (and found other elements rubbish as well, which didn't help), I hated the look of the game so much I couldn't be bothered.

    If your gonna stare at something for hours it's going to put you off if you don't like the look of it. The game mechanics have to be pretty outstanding for you to get past the visual element.

    In red is not enough. Cartoons were originally for adults and cartoons continue to be entertaining to adults to this day.

  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Member UncommonPosts: 380

    I had some fun with the WIldstar beta before they shut down the 24/6 testing, and I wouldn't exactly describe the game as childish, but I could definitely see how its tone might irritate people whose most important aspect of an MMO is world immersion. The old-school Unreal Tournament narrator, the lightning bolts and guitar riffs on level-up...these things are so prevalent, it's like they designed the game in an effort to bring the stereotypical "bros" into the MMO market. I half expected to accept a quest and have the narrator exclaim "Alright! Grab some Doritos and Mountain Dew and let's *beep* some *beep* up!"

     

    All that aside, the game WAS fun, at least during the short time I was playing it. I'm not sure it was an immersive world I cared enough to pay $15 to be a an constant part of, though, and that's one of those things that sets MMOs apart from other genres to me.

  • TheutusTheutus Member UncommonPosts: 636
    I won't play because the graphics look stupid. Is that better? Opinions are like assholes, we all have them and they all stink.
  • Colt47Colt47 Member UncommonPosts: 549

    In response to OP,

    Because they are probably tired of the games particular style of art.  The particular art direction the game employs is being used a lot in the indie game market due to its clean appearance and low bar of entry.  Magicka, Torchlight, and technically the current World of Warcraft employ similar stylings, though World of Warcraft is still a bit more complex with the new update.  Ratchet and Clank is pretty close in styling as well.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063

    The game comes across to me as being "silly fun", and I play MMORPG's to neither be silly or have "fun."

    Strangely enough they promise to bring back more challenging raiding, which would appeal more to why I play MMORPG's, to accomplish things, so perhaps they should focus their marketing  more towards why this is a good, challenging game, rather than try to amuse with tongue in cheek humor?

     

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  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254
    Originally posted by Saio3
    “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence....." C.S Lewis.

    +1

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