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  • sgtalonsgtalon Member UncommonPosts: 129

    So you pay $60 for a game plus a $15 a month subscription and you level out of the content in less than a month and this is a good thing?

    This is EXACTLY why I won't be buying another MMO. 

    Until they come up with a MMO that is intended to be a long term game I just don't see the point. 

    This has been my complaint in all of the MMOs I have played in the last couple years. Maybe they have great content and story but the fact that you can blast through the whole thing in so short of a time just kills it for me.

    The worst offender for me was SWTOR. Awesome story, Great mechanics, but I leveled out of the content long before I finished the game. The last 2 planets I went to I received ZERO exp for everything I did. 

    Why is it that they want people to level so fast? I have the same issue with my current game. Neverwinter. I get a level so fast that I barely have a chance to figure out what my new skills even do for me. On top of that, it bothers me that I know I am missing so much of the content of the game by leveling so quickly in one area.

    I am not the type of person that likes to just create a new character to explore other content. 

    Can't we have a game where the adventure is the point and not Max Level?

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Iselin

    So... without the game-ending, show-stopping bugs you would have been VR1 when? Last weekend? :)

     

    Grats from a fellow VR

    I don't know, but I know for certain. I won't be leveling a second character in this game until I see a blanket fix for all of the issues I've had for this game.

    Issues that get blown way out of proportion by the drama junkies...and yet, you, me, DMKano and thousands of others have made it into the VR ranks in ~ 2- 3 weeks?

     

    Something is not quite jibing.... either the game is as unplayable as some say or it is very playable despite the bugs.

     

    IDK...maybe I'm getting a warped perspective in my 200+ member guild since we only kick-out people for cheating, stealing or drama.... so far only 3 have gotten kicked out and only one of those was over drama.

     

    I think I'm playing a different game.

    When people say unplayable means the bugs stopping progression through questing. I think you know what they mean and you are just being clever.

    Luckily mobs grinding give good XP and respawns are very fast. I ran into many bugged quests at lvl 27 so i decided to grind my way to lvl 30 in no time and i plan to do the same on later levels if i hit the wall in terms of quests progression.

    Not everyone is hardcore though so even for those who are grinding mobs due to bugged out quests are going to level slower in comparison to those who do nothing but play ESO 10+ hours a day. Bugs like falling through floors and slow loading screen do slow down the progression but not that much, so if you didn't face those problems good for you.

    You should never judge the leveling speed of a MMO on basis of players who have that much free time on their hands.

    No. What _I_ mean is that I and all other VR players in my guild have gotten there by completing the full main and faction quest lines. Were there bugs along the way? Sure as shit were. But we found a way around all of them by either re-logging or finding some other creative way around it..

     

    ...like the one in Coldharbor where we had to target a gate that was far away to turn it on using a skill that only lasted about 6 seconds... we finally figured that we could reach it by jumping to our death in the general direction of the objective and targeting it while in mid-air... shit like that. Obviously not intended but we figured it out.

     

    You're the one who's assuming VR players all got there through AOE grinding. Shit...you can't even enter the other alliance zones for the VR content without completing the main story line. Are some having trouble with that line? Apparently so judging from forums... yet every one in my guild has completed it just fine... like I said, I must be playing a different game.

     

     

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  • CoffeeBreakCoffeeBreak Member Posts: 236

    Finally hit VR1 on Saturday.  Been busy so I hadn't been playing more then an hour or so a night the last few days.

     

    After all the horror stories revolving around people being stuck right before VR content.  Got to Cold Harbor expecting any minute now my char would be locked in an instance.  Did all the quests in Cold Harbor.  Was 49 and figured I'd finish the final assault.  Figured any minute I'd get to that bug.  Finished the assault.  Hit VR1 and went to the Harborage to do the main story quest....any minute....   Now sitting in Daggerfall wishing my VR content was the AD place first.  

  • SuperDonkSuperDonk Member UncommonPosts: 759

    I'm having issues getting to level 30. I LOVE the pvp in this game, already had some awesome 3 way keep defense battles + a few scroll runs. But I HATE the PVE in this game. And since they have made almost impossible to level with pvp when they nerfed the player kill quest I have already canceled the sub. I'm not going to grind through a bunch of content just to be able to play how I want, I've done that way too many times already.

  • lifeordinarylifeordinary Member Posts: 646
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Iselin

    So... without the game-ending, show-stopping bugs you would have been VR1 when? Last weekend? :)

     

    Grats from a fellow VR

    I don't know, but I know for certain. I won't be leveling a second character in this game until I see a blanket fix for all of the issues I've had for this game.

    Issues that get blown way out of proportion by the drama junkies...and yet, you, me, DMKano and thousands of others have made it into the VR ranks in ~ 2- 3 weeks?

     

    Something is not quite jibing.... either the game is as unplayable as some say or it is very playable despite the bugs.

     

    IDK...maybe I'm getting a warped perspective in my 200+ member guild since we only kick-out people for cheating, stealing or drama.... so far only 3 have gotten kicked out and only one of those was over drama.

     

    I think I'm playing a different game.

    When people say unplayable means the bugs stopping progression through questing. I think you know what they mean and you are just being clever.

    Luckily mobs grinding give good XP and respawns are very fast. I ran into many bugged quests at lvl 27 so i decided to grind my way to lvl 30 in no time and i plan to do the same on later levels if i hit the wall in terms of quests progression.

    Not everyone is hardcore though so even for those who are grinding mobs due to bugged out quests are going to level slower in comparison to those who do nothing but play ESO 10+ hours a day. Bugs like falling through floors and slow loading screen do slow down the progression but not that much, so if you didn't face those problems good for you.

    You should never judge the leveling speed of a MMO on basis of players who have that much free time on their hands.

    No. What _I_ mean is that I and all other VR players in my guild have gotten there by completing the full main and faction quest lines. Were there bugs along the way? Sure as shit were. But we found a way around all of them by either re-logging or finding some other creative way around it..

     

    ...like the one in Coldharbor where we had to target a gate that was far away to turn it on using a skill that only lasted about 6 seconds... we finally figured that we could reach it by jumping to our death in the general direction of the objective and targeting it while in mid-air... shit like that. Obviously not intended but we figured it out.

     

    You're the one who's assuming VR players all got there through AOE grinding. Shit...you can't even enter the other alliance zones for the VR content without completing the main story line. Are some having trouble with that line? Apparently so judging from forums... yet every one in my guild has completed it just fine... like I said, I must be playing a different game.

     

     

    So much shit in your post..i mean literally ;)

    I am not assuming anything. I never even said that VR players all got there grinding through AOE. Please don't put words in my mouth. What i did say was that for those who run into bugged quests that is a good alternative and XP is quite fast. But then again i have hardly seen any posts here that claim game is 'unplayable'. Some very annoying and irritating bugs yes but you can go around them by ignoring those quests and mob grind. 

    If i start judging everything in this world by group of people surrounding me than this is the most perfect and safe world i live in..but that is not true now is it.

  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
     People  who've had a flawless experience have maxed out in 1 day to a week.

    They didn't do quests to level. They grinded mobs that respawn quickly with AoE. That is the fastest way to level. Actually doing all the quests is very slow in comparison.

    I know that guilds were making posts about it pre-launch so that they could hit level 50 quickly to get an advantage for PvP.

    Let me reiterate this, nobody is hitting level 50 in one day by  levelling through quests.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
     

    If i start judging everything in this world by group of people surrounding me than this is the most perfect and safe world i live in..but that is not true now is it.

    No. Judge it by the people who are not around you...especially on the internet. Much surer bet, right?

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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,527

    I can not fathom some peoples idea of problems in a game.  The content locust come out and say I didn't have enough quest to get to max level I have to grind and such.  But it is these same people that run by mobs on their mounts to get from point a to point b just to finish said quest.  They avoid most of the combat just to finish the quest and try to max out their characters in a week.  They skip a quest because they would have to relog to finish it, etc.  What is the point of playing something like ESO, if this is your mindset?

    ESO is a questing game with a PVP centric area for those that want it.  Yeah it has some bugs, or a lot of bugs, but I been testing games since the early 90's and can tell you not a single game that has been released in the past 20 years or so has been bug free.  This is normal in a game, especially one with a developer that is learning.

    90 % of the questing bugs are fixed with a simple relog.  Yes that is a pain in the ass to do but it is very easy to do.  I play on the AD side mostly and can say you can complete every quest up till, coldhalbour which does have a couple bugs that relogging will not fix.   The exception to this was the mote quest where people just have to work together to complete it.

    I will say bugs can be a pain in the ass when all you want to do is complete something but I never will understand why so many people come online just to complain about a game they are still playing.  If you stand the bugs wait a little while usually 2 or 3 months and 90% of the bugs are usually gone.  Why play and game and come online to gripe about it?

    This isn't directed at the post itself just read so many post this morning of people complaining, but guess what they keep logging in and playing.

  • Covet78Covet78 Member UncommonPosts: 149
    Originally posted by DEATHRAMENT
    Originally posted by xenom

    i don't get it when ppl talk about the buggiest content ever, since blablabla is this because there is so many from the single player series or is it that the game got the whiniest of whiny crowd among the more elder fanbase?

     

    i mean i get it that there are bugs, some dupe problems along the way etc. i cannot remember a mmo without such problems around launch or even after.

    yet i am 27 atm and encountered a single bug/broken quest that hindered my gameplay experience for a minutes before i just left it a lone for a WHOLE DAY to come back and find it fixed hm. even so the buddies in my guild, sure some encountered the bank bug, or the dupe bug but none is even talking about the sooo buggy content as 99% just enjoy the game, being 50 already as well.

     

    so why is it that a game that basically has in my opinion one of the smoothest launches among mmo's with most of it's content there and working being flamed for being the buggiest one ? ^^

    Smoothes launches, your joking right? I love this game but its a bug ridden mess to say the least. I have played every mmo released in the past 10 years and this one has been one of the worst launches ive experienced in that time. I still love it but lets get serious.

    are you kidding? lets see.. what's a very recent mmo that just came out. Oh yeah, FF14. Have you played that at launch? A week after launch? Do I have to tell you how that launch was? Should I say nothing and wait for your replay that it was a great launch? Or should I come right out and say that the MAJORITY of people that bought ff14 could not even log in for over a week. 

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    Unless you have proof I seriously doubt it was the "majority" that couldn't play the game.

    Servers where always packed almost all in eu timezone (I checked the servers when I logged) and I personally and many others didn't have any problem.

    (Talking about the dude talking about ffxiv)


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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    I was in both and personally apart of a lacking story I preferred the default map layout as there where more areas to explore (There's no caves/tunnels that are deep with dangerous creatures in the updated version :/ ) plus harder monsters.

    Anyway the person above me said that the majority couldn't play and unless there's proof I doubt it was the majority when all servers where capped and had long queues.

    Sorry for going off topic :P


  • CoffeeBreakCoffeeBreak Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Bloodaxes

    Unless you have proof I seriously doubt it was the "majority" that couldn't play the game.

    Servers where always packed almost all in eu timezone (I checked the servers when I logged) and I personally and many others didn't have any problem.

    (Talking about the dude talking about ffxiv)

    FFXIV had amazing launches both times. However, it's first release was one of the worse "AAA" MMOs ever conceived and the second launch was definitely overcrowded to the point that many couldn't log into the game.

     

    I don't think I have ever been angrier during an mmo launch than with FFXIV: ARR.  I don't mind bugs or queues, but that generic "The world is full.  Try again later." is infuriating after getting home from work.  Later...2 minutes?  2 Hours?  Then everyone was spamming "0" because it would cycle through the errors and attempt again.  Then you'd get in a queue and the queue would count down from 200 and right as you were at 0..."The world is full.  Try again later."

     

     

  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115

    Finally? 

    Really finally?!

    It's people like you that create the modern day MMO's of finish in a few days and never come back style games. Also, tedious? Really? I am level 46 and it hasn't been tedious at all. I guess thats just my opinion. Also, bugs? There are some bugs, but nothing that should hold you back that much. I feel you are exaggerating for drama. Had I been playing hardcore I could have easily hit 50 in a week. 

    For the others who haven't played yet, there are SOME bugs. They won't really effect your gameplay. The bugs that can happen to such a small minority that I highly doubt you'll come across them (same for any game). Out of the ton of quests I have done only 4 have been bugged. None stopped me from progressing.

    Also, if you want to play in a tedious manner such as the OP has mentioned, then you can grind to 50 much faster than 3 weeks. If you play like I did, doing the quests, exploring, crafting, just overall adventuring around you'll reach 46 in about 3 weeks.

  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103

    Congrats, and the bug statement is understandable, if you were not able to immersivly enjoy the quests and do things your way, I can see it being really painful to go through.     I kind of scaled back and did crafting till the big herd made their way though all those quests before I started on Khenarti's roost.  Almost level 10, but I managed to collect and store about 70% of my craftings trait research gear from chests and get my all my smithing crafts to 10 and provisioner and alchemy into their 30s while letting the herd push through first.  

     

    I'm now starting on books and every quest I can possibly do now and haven't run into a single bug.   Most of the bugs were from too many people hammering the same quests, so now is the time to start doing them.

  • Moar61Moar61 Member UncommonPosts: 260
    Originally posted by Tgiordano92
    I must just be lucky, because I have only encountered a couple of minor bugs through my leveling to 30.

    Same. I only abandoned one quest so far.

  • xenomxenom Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by xenom

    i don't get it when ppl talk about the buggiest content ever, since blablabla is this because there is so many from the single player series or is it that the game got the whiniest of whiny crowd among the more elder fanbase?

     

    i mean i get it that there are bugs, some dupe problems along the way etc. i cannot remember a mmo without such problems around launch or even after.

    yet i am 27 atm and encountered a single bug/broken quest that hindered my gameplay experience for a minutes before i just left it a lone for a WHOLE DAY to come back and find it fixed hm. even so the buddies in my guild, sure some encountered the bank bug, or the dupe bug but none is even talking about the sooo buggy content as 99% just enjoy the game, being 50 already as well.

     

    so why is it that a game that basically has in my opinion one of the smoothest launches among mmo's with most of it's content there and working being flamed for being the buggiest one ? ^^

    Well you're lucky, I face constant load screen issues, locked movement, locked hot-keys, weapon swapping not working, countless quests not working, auto dismount issues, falling through the world, knocking back people with my bow causes me to be sent into a load screen randomly, jumping over logs can cause me to be launched into the sky, forward camps bugged, siege equipment bugged, werewolf ultimate resets, stuck as detected when stealthing, severe network I/O issues, severe memory leaks, bank space being deleted, items being deleted, gold being deleted, alliance points being deleted, guild tab not working, partying causes disconnects, and stuck in combat. You think I'm whining for little to no reason?

    well i just stated how i experienced the game so far and was wondering how some apparently have so many bugs - according to posts.

    not saying you haven't it's just odd that some have nearly no issues at all (like myself) and some write like they play a totally different game.

    it's just that most ppl i play with + myself who have really been in quite a lot of mmo launches since daoc and before still think this one was kinda smooth overall - NOTE: not saying without any issues :P

    just when i think of swtor, endless queue times, crash, queuetime reset

    aion: same

    daoc: same and worse with downtime for days

    swg: no comment

    aoc: couldn't even play just cuz i had an ATI card with 32bit...luckely i planned to switch to 64 bit anyway

    dark&light: no comment either...just to name a few. 

    i mean that's some bad launches with bugs/issues all over. launches where you couldn't even play most of the time in the first month or months when you wanted to, be it to queues and/or bugs.

    then there is smooth launches like gw2, defiance, eso (for me:P) but not without issues as well for sure :)

  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

    Yeah, I've yet to find this magical location to get from 1-50. So kudos to them.

    Well that's probably because it isn't one spot. It's one spot for every 4 or 5 levels. Basically you kill mobs 3 or 4 levels higher than you until you are their level. Then you move on to the next spot. Rinse and repeat until you hit 50. That's how you had players hitting level 50 so fast. They weren't doing quests at all.

  • shamallshamall Member CommonPosts: 516
    If you ran out of quest by level 45 then I think you might have missed a few. I'm 46 and only halfway through coldharbor without grinding nobs and hardly any pvp. 

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  • lifeordinarylifeordinary Member Posts: 646
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
     

    If i start judging everything in this world by group of people surrounding me than this is the most perfect and safe world i live in..but that is not true now is it.

    No. Judge it by the people who are not around you...especially on the internet. Much surer bet, right?

    I judged the game on my own accord while you keep downplaying experince of others on basis of your own as well your guildies.

    This is very old tactic. Someone complains about the game and fans barge in talking about how everything is fine with them and their guildies and neighbours and what not. And the issue at hand gets lost in there some where.

  • OtakunOtakun Member UncommonPosts: 874
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by lifeordinary
     

    If i start judging everything in this world by group of people surrounding me than this is the most perfect and safe world i live in..but that is not true now is it.

    No. Judge it by the people who are not around you...especially on the internet. Much surer bet, right?

    I judged the game on my own accord while you keep downplaying experince of others on basis of your own as well your guildies.

    This is very old tactic. Someone complains about the game and fans barge in talking about how everything is fine with them and their guildies and neighbours and what not. And the issue at hand gets lost in there some where.

    Yes, it is self entitled ignorance that a certain group of fans like to do when people who are already too critical on games focus on the problems of a game the fans happen to enjoy. "I didn't see it, so it didn't happen,", "never happened to me or anyone I know so it never happens", "we must be playing different games cause my opinion differs from yours" and so on. Either way, speak with subs, not forum talk. Once people see the plummet in subs from people sick of bugs and people not picking up the game due to complaints then people will open their eyes.

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    I'm VR3 now, and it is boring! No offence Ebonheart Pact players, but the quests in your zones are so dull... I've had more exciting times watching paint dry.

     

    1-50 in AD was great, enjoyed every second of it, but VRs are getting me down now I have to deal with other factions' quests.

     

    Also, whilst the game is buggy, there are work arounds to a lot of the issues. I've completed every quest in AD and all but one in EP so far (just finishing Deshaan). If the game wasn't fun, then I would've probably quit by now giving the technical issues and bugs.

  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets Member UncommonPosts: 246
    If anyone power levels their way to 50 asap in this game and space bars the dialogue and auto exits the lore books without allowing themselves to sink into any of it, I think you are missing out on pretty much the only unique element of this game and that would be a big shame. I'm only level 10 after a few days of play and I am sure I could have double or trebled that in the hours I have played if I had skipped all the 'meat and potatoes' of the content but I am certain it would have been 'tedious' as you described. But to each their own.
  • TyserieTyserie Member UncommonPosts: 155
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

    Yep... After 3 weeks of tedious leveling through some of the buggiest content since [insert MMO here] I've finally become a veteran. In fact I'm now veteran rank 2 after 12 hours of being a veteran. Now it's only a matter of time until I reach veteran 10 but my god, I don't know if I can continue with the intense amount of bugs in this game. The last 3 weeks ended with my 5 levels under leveled and forced me into grinding zombies to 50. 

    On a brighter note my guild (Elite Guard) took two Elder Scrolls last night from Daggerfall. That was quite enjoyable. 

    Hi man and congratulation! Can you tell your /played stats please. Thx

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