mod can lock this topic ? we got enough of them, eso curently P2P for the standar they want to keep ,
and yeah that not there yet but that the first months and if people whould stop to be immature and think everything should be right now perfect , the game will get there, the base game realy amazing and fun.
that not B2P or F2P because it not this type of game.
they are no reason talk about it, use you logic.
you need to be the one you talk about how this game should be either B2P or p2p. because that not either of those and that just rude to say people should explain to you why the game p2p.
if you want know, can tell you a litle bit some reason.
- services ( yeah no matter how you bitch or think they are the worst ever, they are way better that b2p or p2p game dev )
- no cash shop ( no the horse not one )
- REAL update and a team working daily on the game ( no f2p and b2p game dont have it )
we pay for these service the total of .50 cents a day something ANYONE can afforts, if you cant, you should not have enough time play mmorpg.
my food last night cost me 4 months subs omg.... i get a damn cofee each day before work and that 4x more that the price daily... when people with stop bitch about how game like mmorpg should be FREE ??
they are not these type of game, they require BIG WORK, TEAM, DEV , working DAILY. accept it or go play your shooter or other single player game who require no update, daily, patch, big team working on it....
SERIOUSLY ??!" IM TIRED OF THIS SHIT.
this is a discussion forum.
Why is it wrong to have a discussion.
I asked for a argument from the other side for once for those against ESO going B2P/F2P.
How is that Rude?
I thought thats the whole point of the First Amendment. TO give people the freedom to speak out against other thoughts.
Well I see a lot of arguments for why its payment model should change,
i would like to read the arguments for the other side of this debate for sake of a civil discussion.
First off, like many people who bring up the First Amendment, you have very little clue as to what it actually covers (little hint: does not apply to a company's forums page). But that's beside the point. Not sure why you are making this an "ESO" F2p thing. Most people (and I'm one of them) don't like the F2P model for any games for various reasons. My reasons are:
Created bad game communities.
Rarely is it really "free". Often they turn into cash-grab/pay-to-win crap fest that end you costing more money than a $15 monthly sub.
Guess I'm old fashion. I like the old and tried sub payment model. Just my personal preference.
But it has very little to do with ESO specifically..
I don't get it why people think F2P / B2P community is bad... Have you actually looked at those communities and compared them to P2P ? I've played WOW, EVE, RIFT, GW2, GW1, SWTOR, DCUO, Defiance, Aion, Runes of Magic, Flyff, lineage and so on...
In those games I remember that the worst possible communities were in EVE, WOW, DCUO and Defiance (which practically had no community because of it's pathetic social system).... So as you can see those games are P2P, F2P and B2P and it really doesn't matter what sub model a game has because from my exp it's not really a relevant factor. I usually see it being pulled of as an excuse on forums and stated as a fact - like here, but when playing games there's no rule for it and it certanly isn't true that F2P/B2P makes a terrible community. As an example I can take GW1, which had the best possible community I've came across in games and GW2 isn't far from it as well even tho I don't play GW2 as much as I used to.
The old and tried sub payment model is exactly that, "old" and less and less companies can make a profit in todays mmorpg market because it's simply too BIG and people aren't hanging around in just 1 mmorpg for long enough, as we've seen from many examples in the recent years.
Devs take what they can and if they see that people will buy whatever crap they throw at them in the cash shop then that's how they'll do it. Afterall they're here to make a profit so pushing cash shops to p2w limits isn't strange, but if people wouldn't buy those stuff they wouldn't bother putting them in. With that said... I still haven't spent anything more than few dollars in a F2P game and if I see devs turning towards p2w I just stop playing, there's plenty of other mmorpgs to fill the gaps
Go play them, leave the sub games alone.
Funny, thats exactly what most people do and then those sub games go F2P just so they can continue existing.
Also is funny that you, oh great sub supporter, will be long gone before it happens, which makes you part of the problem.
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I sure will do it now because some anonymous forumer types me what I should do after I express my opinion.
You sure showed me. *shrugs*
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Funny, thats exactly what most people do and then those sub games go F2P just so they can continue existing.
Also is funny that you, oh great sub supporter, will be long gone before it happens, which makes you part of the problem.