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Perhaps my problem is I think farther ahead than I care to type. Then because I leave this "gap" in my explanation, you assume I am not thinking rational. In a sense, perhaps I am not, because a rational person would connect the two. However, the fact remains that most people do no thinking at all and so jump in uneducated. Were we sitting in the same room, you would better understand my position if only because you would be receiving more information from me in a shorter time period than me typing out some half assed response. As far as the truthfulness of my statements, everything I have said is true. It's a fact bad men wrap themselves in the blanket of patriotism to get the unthinking populace to do their bidding. You would be an absolute fool to think it can't happen here. It happened in nazi Germany. Do your research on Israeli false flag operations, such as the Lavon incident and the attack on the USS Liberty. Don't give me this crap about it can't happen. It has and will so long as they can get away with it.
Um.... on the assumption your not just being sarcastic, as the second part of your posts suggests...
I think you will find it was more like 3000-4000 people.... not 1 million...
However with statistical manipulation like that Bush might give you a job as information Minister
And Puoltry..... It is possible to have both morals and ethics without religion or Government.
If you believe that most people are intrinsically bad and evil then you agree that, without religion and Government they will all exercise their evil anarchistic tendancies.
If you beleive as I do that most people are intrinsically good, then you will agree that, Religion and Government are nothing more than necessary tools required to control the weak of mind.... such as yourself for example.
BTW Puoltry is spelled Poultry...
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
wait wait wait are you saying the problem is you are thinking way too far ahead???
that cant be.
because i had that gap problem in middle school especially in writing and when that happens you get a beggingin and a end with nothing in the middle.
you my friend have scattered plots of nonsense. that when you connect the dots you are even more confused and now have a paper full of rude gestures, none of them are intelligent, moral, or patriotic.
i used to enjoy debating with you then u showed your true colors.
you make michael moore look like bill o reily.
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I refuse to argue with you for three reasons. The first is your belief that Iran has nukes. The second is that you think Congress has declared war on Iraq. Lastly, you made no sense with your last post.
Well, with some of the posts I've read here is the reason why I do not express my political/religious views with anyone except my family. I was taught to keep those sort of things to myself or among my family because you will create very quick enemies and it's not the sort of topic to express with others who might do all sorts of crazy things to make their political point of view just (arguements, fights, even killings.)
i havent read shit in this thread, but i'll lend my voice for a minute....
i dont like bush because he's not qualified to be president, money got him to be the governor of texas.....money got him to his presidency....some people cant see it i guess
whats the odds of a president having a son become president too....
In a real democracy.... they would be very long odds.....
Having said that.... what other father/son combos have there been in US history ??
Maybe the stats are actually reflective of the reality.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
I don't like bush for many reasons....
he helped create a trillion dollar defecit....hes taken more vacation time than anyone else...he started a war that the united nations didn't approve of...his "war on terror" is bombing other people...why would you say he has been, "a pretty good president?"
thats really stupid. Over a million people? nope. And do you know who messed with us? Osama. Not Iraq.
Look around you. Think of how much money the two main political parties (democrats and republicans) spend on their campaigns. The majority of the american people (and when I say majority, I mean LARGE majority) are sheep. They don't educate themselves enough to actually see through this whole facade.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
I wasn't gonna post here because it seems that most people are posting such long-winded, political diarhea from the mouth and not keeping it simple for the sake of clarity. The same clarity that has been lost for this country so long ago. Why bother spinning so much heavy-termed political BS and ideas when no one gets it?
Like someone else has stated: A majority of Americans are not as "in-the-loop" in politics as most of you claim to be, so save yourself the soap-box preachin ego-boosting. I don't like Bush. I look at him and don't like him. His arrogance and bull-headedness is something I care not to have reflected from a country I live in. That type of personality is fine to run a business, but not a country. There are too many people living here to be represented by ONE man and his beliefs.
But that's just me. I see he claims to fight the war on terrorism and remember him stating that any country that isn't with him/America is against him. Is that how it should be? Also boldly claiming that any country that supports terrorism (i.e. training, funding, aiding) will be labeled as a threat to America. If that's the case then are we not ourselves a threat? The terrorist involved where housed, funded and trained on U.S. soil. All without question nor scrutiny.
And am I the only one who remembers the shameful acts of violence that followed the attacks on middle-eastern citizens here? Church burnings, beatings and killings by so-called "real" americans?
The U.N. was created with the sole purpose creating some sort of unity/regulations of the world's leading nations and their dealings. So how do you feel about one nation and one man who defies all the U.N. stands for and goes rogue? And if the findings that sparked war are never found? What do you say then?
It's easy to deny what this country is accused of when we are on the inside looking out. Maybe we should start looking at the rest of the world as a mirror to reflect back onto us what we project and not as a window of opportunity for the taking.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Very well put.
The interesting thing about the majority of bushs supports are between the ages of 16-22. And in this same group you'll find that 46% of these students coming out of high school do believe the press should be censored by the government. I find this extremely frightening, that a near majority of the youth in this country, that will be soon put into positions of power in the near future do not want to question the system.
Obviously I don't like this current president, do to his questionable ethics, and his willingness to use a faltering military to bully his view of our republic on the world. and I say his view because right now the government has nearly no checks and balances at all. Passing bills that leave us on par with the nations we're at war with right now.
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Having said that.... what other father/son combos have there been in US history ??
Maybe the stats are actually reflective of the reality.
actually there has been.
John Adams, 2nd U.S. President, 1797-1801. Born Oct. 30, 1735 in Massachusetts. Died July 4, 1826. Wife: Abigail Smith. Occupation: lawyer. College: Harvard. Federalist Party. Age 61 at Inauguration.
John Quincy Adams, 6th U.S. President, 1825-1829. Born July 11, 1767 in Massachusetts. Died February 23, 1848. Wife: Louisa Catherine Johnson. Occupation: lawyer. College: Harvard. Democratic-Republican. Age 58 at Inauguration. John Quincy Adams is the first president to pose for a photograph, which according to Adams's diary happened in March 1843.
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I hate Bush because he represents, and indeed is proud to represent, everything that is so middle ages. For a political party that "prides" itself on its reasoning abilities, they must not think very hard. Case in point is their belief in God. Anyone who even remotely used the faculties they were born with would know that their can be no such thing as God. My proof is that if God could make himself known to the minds of men, men throughout history would only believe in a single God, the one who is the centerpiece of the Christian, Muslim, and Hebrew faiths. This is all evading the real point however. Bad men will always hide behind a facade of greatness and rightousness to further their goals. He's against stem cell research and cloning. So like the liberals he seeks to destroy, he too only seeks to hold humanity back. They are both one side of the same coin. Even if I knew nothing else about him, the one line he uttered in Fahrenheit 9/11 says it all. He said something like "Some call you the rich and powerful. I call you my base." The man is not about you. He will only protect himself and his buddies, and even then they are disposable. Lastly, in my ever so humble opinion, he was directly involved in 9/11 at worst or allowed it to happen at best. At a time when a supposedly unknown number of planes were flying through the sky, and with his attendance at the school announced days ahead of time, just how did the secret service know he was safe sitting there reading about goats? There was an airport 4 miles from the school he was at. It would be a quick and deadly strike against him. Are we so arrogant to believe that evil people can only be elected to office in countries other than ours? It's now a proven fact that Roosevelt steered the Japanese into attacking our fleet when they did. He even knew days ahead of time that they were going to. He did not act because he needed the attack to sell the United States into war. What's the price of humanity to get your way? Apparently a few thousand is an acceptable cost for a president, despite the fact its not his kids dying.
Just remember, political power attracts the very people who should not have it. Then we act surprised when they do anything to keep it.
" It's now a proven fact that Roosevelt steered the Japanese into attacking our fleet when they did."
-We need a strong communist leader, like Stalin or Mao. Only we need an intelligent one. I think this was one of Roosevelts best actions.
"Case in point is their belief in God."
-Theists should be sent to re-education camps along with capitalists to learn about the merits of socialist labor and to be freed from their infantile beliefs.
"Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach." -Joseph Stalin
FDR one of my favorite presidents
If you were going to pick the best Communist leaders I would say Lenin, simply because he was the least communist of the lot, of course Communissim and or Socialism will never work because it is ethically, fundamentally, and moraly wrong.
not to mention they are Atheists on top of that making a socialist society, a society completly devoid of any moral fiber what so ever
But such is the nature of Godless machines of the Government
I'm a Agnostic/Capitalist in case you were wondering
PS You should have added Alexander The Great on there he would be my pick
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
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Uh....FDR was one of the most socialist presidents the US has ever seen. I don't see how you can call yourself a capitalist and say you like him.
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He did what was needed at the time thats why I think he is good, while I don't like socialist ideas or programms they did help in the depression...a nessasary evil
Wait a sec I just noticed people actually voted Clinton
Oh well whatever
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
The main reason I don't like Bush is the way he uses language. For example, Tax relief... well I found an article that explains this much better than I could...
http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/projects/strategic/simple_framing
QOUTE:
Don't think of an elephant. What are you thinking about? I bet it's an elephant. Prof. George Lakoff of UC Berkeley starts his linguistics class with this exercise you just did. And you know what? Nobody can do it. Nobody can not think of an elephant when they hear "Don't think of an elephant."
Words invoke frames in our mind. These frames determine how we think, talk, and behave. What makes sense to us and what does not? It's all about frames. Conservatives have their frames. When you hear terms like tax relief, for example, it's a frame. They say to you "tax relief" as though taxation is an affliction, and hence you need relief from it. The person delivering the "relief" is a hero, and anyone trying to stop him is a bad guy. And then they frame the question: Are you for or against the president's tax relief? It's irrelevant if you are for it or against it. Once you have accepted the frame of an affliction-relief model, you have already lost the debate.
So how do you reframe? Well, you change the affliction into investment in our future, investment in our infrastructure, and the dues we pay to live in a free democratic society. See, now that reasonable taxation is tied to investment and freedom, it suddenly doesn't sound so bad, does it?
well this debate will be very very stupid because the decision on how good of a president bush is, isnt up to us.
its up to the ones in the next generation who look back in retrospect after all is said and done and then we will know for sure if he was good or not.
until then this whole thing is pointless.
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Yes it is up to us. Because in the end we decide how he is remembred. If we remember him for his further spreading of americans veiw of democracy around the world thats how he will be protrayed in history. Or if we remember him as the president who drove one of the worlds wealthiest nations into debt and falling behind former poverty stricken nations like China in the world trade, then he will be.
So debates like this are very important in the sense it shares the information true or not that we have on leaders quickly.
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BUSH has BALLS and if you don't like him your probly just a big whiner
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