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NCsoft earnings for 1q 2014... not looking pretty...
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Except for GW2/WoW/EvE you cannot even get revenues, let alone profit.
EA has hidden SWTORs numbers for 2 years now.
Been playing two years now and still enjoying it. Its hands down the best value for money mmo that I have ever brought. People have been saying that it will be a ghost town in no time since its release. Its still as busy as it was 18 months ago . I know its success galls you because you don't enjoy the game but it doesn't change the facts this has been a very successful game .
Also you make it sound like your speaking for everyone in say it has "absolutely zero lasting power" that just makes you look self opinionated and arrogant .
Sure NC is not doing very well, but they havent done very well way before GW2 came out, remember Aion? it had to go F2P to survive. That has nothing to do with GW2 as Its still one of the most populated mmos since it came out
well i believe they do just fine, but the problem with the themeparks is that their timeline is always the same, a huge start and then a continuous decline ...
i like the gameplay of GW2 and its graphics/aesthetics but i am boring to play it anymore, of my gf wasnt into playing it i would have abandoned it already ...
you realise SWTOR raked in an obscene amount of money due to the cash shop right something like $120mil in 2013...
No i dont realize. Do you realize that was random internet number?
Again...and again....and again....and again:
How much money has SWTOR raked in in last quarter?
Is this like Monthy Python or something:
OMG, SWTOR "raked in" 12783461287637 $!
Yeah? Where did yu get that?
Someone on internet said so!
Oh goodie...
rofl
Post official EA report on SWTOR
jeebus, its geting really really really obscene by now
- had to layoff 2/3 of their staff
- had to reduce servers from 216 to 17 (and waaaaaaaay too late since they didnt even think of that possibility and needed a lot of time to even make transfers/merges possible)
- had to charge for free update
- had content slowed downt to galcier magnitude
- had to cut any serious development and cut spotlight of the game due to lack of people working on it (class stories)
- had to call patches "expansions"
- cannot fix the engine due to lack of people working on it
- delays everything
- calls recolored crap new content
THATS why people care
If you somehow think that hasnt degraded anyones experience and is "nothing of importance", well, good for you.
For example GW2 raked $112M in 2013 and those are official numbers.
Those SWTOR numbers are an estimate made by Superdata that for example is incorrect concerning Tencent games revenue compared to Tencent official numbers (underestimates) and overestimates WoW cash shop sales.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
random internet number??
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/league-of-legends-revenues-for-2013-total-624-million-update/1100-6417224/
Electronic Art's Star Wars: The Old Republic, which added a free-to-play option in 2012, took the number eight spot with a little more than Team Fortress 2, and less than Blizzard's World of Warcraft, which generated $213 in microtransactions alone (not counting subscription fees).
took like 30 seconds to google dude.. thats from the official press report from Q4 to the shareholders... kthx
You are the one responsible for asserting the number 2 figure. All the subsequent argument on that made up figure would not have happened but for that assertion.
Every thing that happened subsequently in this thread was caused by you. There was absolutely no need to say that without any proof and further to cause this thread to be derailed .Want to talk about the earnings do so without the unnecessary postulation.
First off, the majority of people are not arguing about the success of GW2, only the unfounded statement that it is the #2 MMO in the West. Second, what makes you the expert as to whether SuperData's numbers are reliable or not? They were reported on numerous gaming and tech sites. I am assuming they believe that they hold some credibility since they reported the numbers.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
The whole objective was to bring a fight among the fans of different games which was totally unnecessary and detrimental as it shifted the focus from the earnings to fights about who is number 2. Curious lol ESO fans stayed out wisely.
I enjoyed GW 2 a lot great game for the price you pay and this could have been a smart discussion on earnings on B2P game, instead it devolved into a rubbish fight which I shamefully contributed to.
I still play GW 2 on and off it is a game I enjoy and I bear no ill will against their ability to earn and apologize for my part in this thread.
Lets get back to the point OP was trying to make - > that NCsoft and GW2 has problems . Which is obvious bullshit. Honestly 100+ mil USD per year for almost 2y old game is not what I call 'problem'. And comparing drop from Q4 (hint: Christmas) to Q1 and try to make it look like doom is either stupidity or direct attempt to start flame war (in which he succeeded ).
Economics is hard.
a yo ho ho
Op is the offical Gw2 hater on this forum. He creates a threat about Ncsoft earnings and how low they are, every 3 months. And Gw2 is dying like 1,5 years according to op. The most pathetic person in this forum.
Because that represents a huge drop as well.
Also, my previous posts eliciting such angry responses was expected.
I think the old saying "the truth hurts" applies here.
It isn't apples to apples because 1Q13 had a considerable amount of box sales (~around 500K were sold between Jan 13 and Aug 13) that are a one time revenue.
2Q13 to 2Q14 will be a more accurate measure, even though in a game with no subscription is hard to say anything about population levels by just comparing revenue numbers.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Yeah it took me a while to realize that...and to think, I don't even like GW2 yet he got me arguing against him.
lol I like how neither of his examples necessarily has anything to do with NCSoft's earnings report. Especially the megaserver.
And "on sale so much lately". I've seen Steam games on sale more often and in less (release) time. When stores have sales does it mean they're going out of business? Maybe someone can clue me in on how it works with the games industry. Yeah?
Revenue isn't profit btw... and that 100mill usd per year isn't for a 2 year old game, it is for 4 quarters out of 6 aka a 1.5 year span. I wish you would look at things objectively and stop trying to skew the context all the time. I'll put it this way, if it wasn't a problem they wouldn't be megaservering which is basically just merging servers (gw2 fanbois conveniently used to use server merging as an indication that other games were struggling, but apparently that doesn't apply to their game) and they definitely wouldn't be trying to change the direction of the game constantly if they were getting results they liked. It's also funny that you can use Q4 => Q1 as an excuse for number drops but then glorify Q3=>Q4 as the second coming of grenth. (hint:christmas)
The game is down QoQ and YoY, it is at its second lowest quarter all time...
Keep turning 1.5 years into 2 years though... it must help you sleep better at night.
Sounds like you never started reading, cause I never actually said that...