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Unless you have a beast of gaming rig I strongly suggest you try and get a buddy key before you buy

greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451

I don't think its any secret that Wildstar isn't very well optimized at the moment . Just a quick search on google will show how many people are having problems . Even though my computers a few years old and certainly not a beast it of a computer it can handle something like Guild Wars 2 on high setting at around 60-70 fps in the open world . 

I had a few problems with it in the beta with low fps but given there has been a few patches released that were meant to improve the optimization and knowing a release client can be very different from a beta one I wanted to give it a try again . 

Also I found this https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27834-solution-fps-optimization-problems/ which I thought may help. 

Luckily a friend of mine had a buddy key so I thought I would give it a go . Obviously all my drivers are up to date and I also tried many of the things suggested in that link.  Sadly it still is running around 20-30fps in the open world . I can get more if I turn the screen resolution down though but it looks like a game I would have been playing in around 2005 if I do that . 

What its come down to for me is whether I want to upgrade my graphics card just to play this one game . Every other game I play I have no problem with so I think it will probably be another year or two before I look to upgrading it . 

My suggestion to anyone with a mid range PC or with a computer that is a few years old is to try and get a buddy key before buying this game or wait for a free trial . Don't assume because your PC is well within the recomended specs that it will run Wildstar as smoothly as you would find acceptable . Other wise you may be wasting your money . 

On the plus side it doesn't look like a bad mmo I hope it does well and I hope they can improve the optimization further. 

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  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    I consider myself lucky. My 2009 PC runs this game at about 40 fps on high. Good enough for me.

    I hope they iron out the performance issues soon though. Feel kinda bad for the folks who have high end PCs and this game runs poorly for them.

  • NaralNaral Member UncommonPosts: 748

    Yeah, I am one of the few. I can run Titanfall  on max settings  at about 70 fps, but initially in WS I would have issues with even the cinematics. Sometimes I would have HUGE freezups, lasting minutes. They would just go on and on and on. I even went back to TF and checked, ran fine. Also, in WS my video card sounds like a jet engine, which just doesn't make any sense. I don't overclock, it should not be that demanding. It is the only game that does this, it is so bad I have to play with headphones or I miss a lot of the game sounds.

    Anyway, a solution for me was to really make my case dust free. I mean spotless, especially in the cooling fins and fans on the board and the video card. I also deleted the user folder's contents, and allowed for a clean boot. I am not sure which of these helped, or if it was somethign else, but the game runs pretty well now. I get about 40 fps, which is all I need to be happy and the cinematics run fine. My case was not that dirty, but maybe the cleaning helped. The video card fan still roars though.

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,904
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 
  • NellusNellus Member UncommonPosts: 247
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    - Nellus

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,904
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    While it is never a bad idea to try before you buy. I would say most people who have problems either sit on a borked internet connection r vastly overestimates what their machine is capable of.

     

    On the bright side the style of WS lends it self well to be scaled down. So it will not lose all that much by you tweaking the graphics down a tad bit.

    This have been a good conversation

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

    Dude. No offense. It has nothing to do with that.  It´s all down the game itself and how horribly optimized it is.

    Playing this game is like playing the lottery. If you are lucky, it will run great! And if you are not.... it will run crap!

    There are People with old setups that run the game great, while other People with high end systems struggle with performance.

    It's also not an AMD related issue either. I have a NVidia card and struggle with performance. Tried everything! No Luck.

    I have simply given up trying!  And if they don't get it sorted before my free month is up, I will cancel my sub.

    No matter how much I like the game, if it runs crap, then it just becomes too much of an annoyance and a showstopper for me.

    I can run pretty much anything else out there at High Settings. FFXIV, GW2, ESO, TSW, LOTRO, etc. No issues with any of those games.

  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    GTX 780  I'm on Ultra with anywhere between 65-80 FPS.  I feel for people having issues as TOR did that to me.  (12FPS)
  • GurosanGurosan Member UncommonPosts: 24

    would be nice if they smoothed out performance issues. i got little dated pc, but so far i'm kinda doing alright =]

    any future improvements will be welcome.

  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083

    Actually, from what I've been reading lower end systems are running the game better than the high end systems. I have a pretty high end gaming PC and it struggles with so many framerate issues it's very frustrating.

     

    By contrast, my wife's 3 year old computer runs the game better than my 6 month old gaming computer. I think it's a high end optimization problem moreso than low end. Of course there could be people having problems on both end of the spectrum.

     

    Give them some time to fix it, I know it's very frustrating for me too, but we do need to give them more than a week to fix these problems.

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
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  • RzepRzep Member UncommonPosts: 767
    I have an old i5 2500 and  and an old 580gtx, runs just fine.
  • NorewonNorewon Member UncommonPosts: 100

    Patch just came out today for AMD :

    Patch Highlights

    • The EULA has been updated. Read it! It's awesome, as EULAs go.
    • Improved performance on AMD processors which are powering down because the game is not heavily using any single core by having the main thread of the game prefer to be scheduled on a single core.
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083
    Originally posted by Norewon

    Patch just came out today for AMD :

    Patch Highlights

    • The EULA has been updated. Read it! It's awesome, as EULAs go.
    • Improved performance on AMD processors which are powering down because the game is not heavily using any single core by having the main thread of the game prefer to be scheduled on a single core.

    Awesome, good to see them making some headway. I have an intel/nVidia system so I hope they come out with another patch as well to fix the frame rate issues.

    Thanks for the heads up! I guess this means it's going to run even better than it did on my wife's AMD now haha.

    Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
    Have played: You name it
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  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865

    Although the game could be optimized a bit more for budget systems, it still runs great.

     

    My cousin is using my Cyberpower pre-built PC I bought 4 years ago for $550 and it runs the game on low-med settings which still looks great and he gets a solid 30-40fps.

     

    The game does need some tweaking but it honestly isn't so bad as to not play it at all.

    Originally posted by Arskaaa
    "when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865
    Originally posted by Norewon

    Patch just came out today for AMD :

    Patch Highlights

    • The EULA has been updated. Read it! It's awesome, as EULAs go.
    • Improved performance on AMD processors which are powering down because the game is not heavily using any single core by having the main thread of the game prefer to be scheduled on a single core.

    Love my AMDs - good news!  AMD FX 8320 is in my new baby.

    Originally posted by Arskaaa
    "when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,904
    Originally posted by JeroKane
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

    Dude. No offense. It has nothing to do with that.  It´s all down the game itself and how horribly optimized it is.

    Playing this game is like playing the lottery. If you are lucky, it will run great! And if you are not.... it will run crap!

    There are People with old setups that run the game great, while other People with high end systems struggle with performance.

    It's also not an AMD related issue either. I have a NVidia card and struggle with performance. Tried everything! No Luck.

    I have simply given up trying!  And if they don't get it sorted before my free month is up, I will cancel my sub.

    No matter how much I like the game, if it runs crap, then it just becomes too much of an annoyance and a showstopper for me.

    I can run pretty much anything else out there at High Settings. FFXIV, GW2, ESO, TSW, LOTRO, etc. No issues with any of those games.

    Its part of the game of new MMOs, Never know what you will get for the first few months. I think Carbine has been really working hard to nail down all the problems. 

  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Originally posted by JeroKane
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

    Dude. No offense. It has nothing to do with that.  It´s all down the game itself and how horribly optimized it is.

    Playing this game is like playing the lottery. If you are lucky, it will run great! And if you are not.... it will run crap!

    There are People with old setups that run the game great, while other People with high end systems struggle with performance.

    It's also not an AMD related issue either. I have a NVidia card and struggle with performance. Tried everything! No Luck.

    I have simply given up trying!  And if they don't get it sorted before my free month is up, I will cancel my sub.

    No matter how much I like the game, if it runs crap, then it just becomes too much of an annoyance and a showstopper for me.

    I can run pretty much anything else out there at High Settings. FFXIV, GW2, ESO, TSW, LOTRO, etc. No issues with any of those games.

    This is it right here. I hate when people that can run it act like people that can't are at fault. Its their new game engine that they made for the game thats the problem and not the players. It doesn't make any sense that it works for some with beast pc's and not for others with the same type of pc. Stop blindly sticking up for Carbine on this issue.

  • Jadedangel1Jadedangel1 Member UncommonPosts: 187
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by JeroKane
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

    Dude. No offense. It has nothing to do with that.  It´s all down the game itself and how horribly optimized it is.

    Playing this game is like playing the lottery. If you are lucky, it will run great! And if you are not.... it will run crap!

    There are People with old setups that run the game great, while other People with high end systems struggle with performance.

    It's also not an AMD related issue either. I have a NVidia card and struggle with performance. Tried everything! No Luck.

    I have simply given up trying!  And if they don't get it sorted before my free month is up, I will cancel my sub.

    No matter how much I like the game, if it runs crap, then it just becomes too much of an annoyance and a showstopper for me.

    I can run pretty much anything else out there at High Settings. FFXIV, GW2, ESO, TSW, LOTRO, etc. No issues with any of those games.

    Its part of the game of new MMOs, Never know what you will get for the first few months. I think Carbine has been really working hard to nail down all the problems. 

    I would agree with you, but these optimization problems have been known for months, long before the game launched. I remember seeing a lot of threads about it back when I played in beta. it makes me wonder if the problems can even be fixed at this point.

  • KaelaienKaelaien Member UncommonPosts: 107
    My PC runs the game well on max settings. PC is about 5-6 years old with and updated video card. Ran the game in beta with 30-50fps with no problem.
  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795

    Today got also this Dev response from official forums:

    "AMD is testing WildStar extensively in their hardware labs, I am not privy to exact details but we are still working on it."

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  • LeirosLeiros Member UncommonPosts: 281
    My 3 year old pc runs the game fine on high settings. The only time I notice any frame rate problems is when I'm in the major cities. In Thayd I start getting a little lag, but it in no way makes the game un-playable. The same thing happened when WoW came out back in 2004. I can remember Orgrimmar and Stormwind getting like 10-20 fps because there were so many people there. This will get optimized in time. Still much better than all the issues TESO had at launch.
  • SaluteSalute Member UncommonPosts: 795
    I m not a fan of ESO at all, but let it out from the WS threads pls, even if ESO fans are posting :)

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,904
    Originally posted by Jadedangel1
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by JeroKane
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by Slackker
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    May want to check your updates and drivers. I have a mid range PC with a 4 year old 1gig video card and I get 30-60 FPS easy. 

    He mentioned he updated his drivers in the original post. He said he tried numerous things he had found via search, so I assume that includes all updates.

    Check again, may have installed old ones, or maybe there is beta drives that work better. Sometimes switching to older drivers also work better. Did things go side ways before or after he installed the video card drivers. Did his windows update install generic drivers? 

    Dude. No offense. It has nothing to do with that.  It´s all down the game itself and how horribly optimized it is.

    Playing this game is like playing the lottery. If you are lucky, it will run great! And if you are not.... it will run crap!

    There are People with old setups that run the game great, while other People with high end systems struggle with performance.

    It's also not an AMD related issue either. I have a NVidia card and struggle with performance. Tried everything! No Luck.

    I have simply given up trying!  And if they don't get it sorted before my free month is up, I will cancel my sub.

    No matter how much I like the game, if it runs crap, then it just becomes too much of an annoyance and a showstopper for me.

    I can run pretty much anything else out there at High Settings. FFXIV, GW2, ESO, TSW, LOTRO, etc. No issues with any of those games.

    Its part of the game of new MMOs, Never know what you will get for the first few months. I think Carbine has been really working hard to nail down all the problems. 

    I would agree with you, but these optimization problems have been known for months, long before the game launched. I remember seeing a lot of threads about it back when I played in beta. it makes me wonder if the problems can even be fixed at this point.

    Every MMO will have months of problems. Been MMOing myself since 1999 and I have yet to see a MMO launch that didnt. Every game he listed had launch problems. 3-6 months later and things get smooth for most people. Few weeks ago WS was giving me optimization problems as well. Few patches later and things running smooth. If you cant hack bug, lag and optimization problems with a new MMO launch, you should skip playing new MMOs and wait till they are out 3-6 months. This is a good launch next to most MMO launches. 

  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,652
    OP is right about wildstar , I have a new sager gaming laptop running a overclocked 4810 I 7 with a nvidia 880m SSD etc and lots of areas in wildstar make my machine crawl. Not to compare to other games ESO 70-100 frames per second , GW2 max never dropping below 100 , etc I can keep going on games.  Wildstar is probably the worst optimized game I think Ive ever played for an mmorpg. Considering the art style and low poly models on everything you would think it would scream. The game is fun for sure but lets me honest its not at all optimized.
  • LeirosLeiros Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Originally posted by kikosforever
    I m not a fan of ESO at all, but let it out from the WS threads pls, even if ESO fans are posting :)

    Funny how you target the ESO reference yet say nothing about the WoW references. lol I get what you're saying though. However, one game comparison is just as valid as another. :-)

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