I've been playing this game since launch, but the only thing I can fault it for is the time between content. I usually end up having all the gear and playing for a little while, then I stop playing for awhile> I always come back though. Right now I'm playing this, WoW, and ESO. It's a problem most MMOs have, so it's not that big of a deal I suppose.
Well I'm getting login queues again. 2.3 is proving to be quite popular.
Yea, Limsa Lominsa was so full last night on Faerie that I couldn't see anything till I turned off players names. The entire zone was blue text haha. I haven't seen this many people in an MMO in a long time.
Playing on Cerberus (EU) myself and started around Gradania. Damn, it's very crowded there and in the low level zones where i'm leveling at the moment. People running everywhere, even on odd hours like Monday morning. Never thought that a game that flopped so badly initially could become so good and popular!
Originally posted by Ramonski7 Excellent game that I've been enjoying for the last 10 months. Too much to do in this game! Logs, crafting and now frontlines are drawing me in. I swear it's like when I start playing I get pulled into too many different directions. I'm also trying to save up for my personal quarters. It wouldn't surprise me if FFXIV turns out to be GoTY.
Finally getting chocobo training to the point where I can sort of work it into the rotation lol. Then I decided to do a little desynthesis and oh shit this is a whole other can of worms ha. They done mess around with this game. When they add a new feature, its not half ass. Its a full system with all its own rewards and tie ins to other systems.
Between desynth, gathering, crafting, ventures, gardening,chocobo training, and housing...its like, "combat? This game has that too?"
I haven't been this gleefully overwhelmed since swg's jump to lightspeed expansion.
In about four months we will get 2.4 haha. I'm almost wanting to tell yoshi to slow down
And they added new crafting/gathering gear this patch as well...as if I did t have enough on my plate already.
Came back this weekend after having left before the relaunch initial month was completed. No regrets so far.
The amount of content is staggering and the patch notes are novels. It really puts some of the other modern MMOs in perspective on their content deliveries.
Sure I have some concerns here or there about it (i.e. grindy nature of some aspects of the game and my personal anxiety that I won't be able to level all of the classes that I want to level 50 on my main character--but, that's just me lol).
Might've found a game to finally stick with for a good while now.
I stopped playing regularly recently because it has TOO MUCH content. A lot of the content requires you log on everyday to just get stuff done, especially the Relic weapons. However, there are a lot of different ways to get stuff done.
If i focus on raiding and doing frontlines for my myth and soldiery grind, and also Syrcus Tower (24 man casual Raid), I should have my two favorite jobs (warrior/sch) geared enough to try the new content as they come out.
The cool thing about the game is something called the Echo buff. If you're behind, you can still get a dedicated FC or group of friends to help you through the content. My friend who had been gone for 7 months, came back 2 months ago. Within 2-3 weeks, he had one i90+ Dragoon who is ready to try anything new content the game has to offer.
It's really great to see a game offer so much content for a daily basis and still give new people a way to catch up.
It's a very solid themepark mmo where people see where their subscription is going. I see this game staying P2P for years and years to come. It's so popular that the fanfest for October in Las Vegas has already sold out.
Like i said, the problem with me is that there's too much content and I find myself playing too much at the expense of family, work, other hobbies. But if you enjoy mmo's and you avhe the time for it, this game will keep you busy!
Originally posted by allday88 Originally posted by AeonbladesOriginally posted by allday88Originally posted by AeonbladesOriginally posted by allday88Originally posted by AeonbladesOriginally posted by TibernicuspaAmazingly average WoW clone.You can do quests, and quests, and quests, and quests!
^ Has not played FFXIV obviously.The game is the apex of modern themepark design. No one has done it better yet. As much as I love ESO, FFXIV is just a better, smoother, more enjoyable game all around right now. The dungeons are amazing, there are so many in game activities that I have never, not ONE time had to do a quest hub to quest hub grind. I'm level 42 right now with my new character since getting back into the game, and I have done ZERO quest hubs. Slandering a game because you didn't like it for whatever reason. How new and different. Would you like a cookie?Hmm didn't you just stop by the Swtor thread and put in your two cent slander about that game? Maybe you should eat your own cookie? I didn't slander SWToR. I said it had a great story, and the rest of the game was standard MMO fare. That's not slander. Get over it.No you said pretty good story but that's where the "fun bus" stops, to me that sounds like nothing else is fun in Swtor (slander)Maybe instead of calling out others for bashing your game maybe you should start by staying away from game you don't like. Just a thought though trying to help your credibility a bit that's all. Haha, I don't need your help or care about what you think of my credibility, my opinion is my opinion and I'll continue to share it. If you think that was an insult to SWToR, you are wrong. Sorry you feel like I slandered your game, but the fault is with you and your line of thought, not me.
Oh I don't care if you like Swtor or not you are right it's your opinion. But when the OP states he wants to know why people think it's the best and clearly states this is not a thread to post why you dislike Swtor. But you reply and a agree with a poster who clearly bashes Swtor while finishing it up with your two cents that would be no different then what the poster you are calling out is doing. Now I'm not defending or agreeing with what he says just saying you are not the best fit to offer him a cookie especially since you do the same to other games.
So yep not my fault...
Yes, it is your fault. The op never asked why it was the best. He was stating how amazing the game is. The fact that your here bashing people makes you look childish.
I too went to the same thread and gave my 2 cents. You going to flame me to for my opinion. And I agree, the fun bus does stop with story in SWTOR. Sad but true.
Originally posted by Reizla Originally posted by AeonbladesOriginally posted by FoomerangWell I'm getting login queues again. 2.3 is proving to be quite popular.
Yea, Limsa Lominsa was so full last night on Faerie that I couldn't see anything till I turned off players names. The entire zone was blue text haha. I haven't seen this many people in an MMO in a long time.Playing on Cerberus (EU) myself and started around Gradania. Damn, it's very crowded there and in the low level zones where i'm leveling at the moment. People running everywhere, even on odd hours like Monday morning. Never thought that a game that flopped so badly initially could become so good and popular!
IKR Cactuar is the same way. My eight core and GTX 770 drop fps in all 3 city states. I can't get to a summoning bell either some times. LOL
A few people mentioned that it's all quests, quests, quests and quests. From my limited experience so far, yes there are a lot of quests but that's not the only thing you can do. There are Fates which give nice xp. Also I there are guildhests and levequests which are a nice touch. They are quite fun to do. There is also the hunting log which helps quite a bit with the levelling. And there are dungeons obviously.
The presentation in this game doesn't stop to pleasantly surprise me. I went to my inn when it got unlocked and they have a nice book which summarises the story so far and there are quite a few items which I am not sure what they do as most of them are locked at the moment.
But I like the story quest line so far and I am mostly focusing on that which at the moment is more than enough to level up.
I don't know what the endgame holds but I am enjoying the levelling experience quite a bit. Even if I don't like the endgame, the levelling is more than worth it. Although I think I might like what they have for their endgame from reading some of the recent patch notes.
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I bought FFXIV 4 days ago now, im currently level 29 and i find myself getting bored now, I`m play a paladin and the combat just feels really slow. and everything that your class has is given to you, you don`t pick and choose what you want, the class system is just so linear. Like ide love to be able to choose between healing pally tank pally or dps pally (yes i know WoW has this kind of pally but i havent played WoW in a long long time and don`t plan to again)
The game itself is beautiful the zones are so well done, the ui is one of the best ive seen. But as of now, I don`t know what im going to do. Also ide like to state that a lot of the leveling gear is ugly AF
Originally posted by FeralLoki I doubt he will last 30 days, my biggest problem with this game is the slow combat system, its just horrible imo and not to mention the character graphics and the gear looks is just so bad. But thats just my opinion, if you like it, good for you.
I didn't last 30 days in FFXIV. I agree about the combat system, slow and stand-still-to-cast is no way to go through life son. Also, a lot of people love the graphics in the game but the only thing I saw that stood out were the actual area designs and textures. Like you said, a lot of the characters have this plastic look to them that doesn't fit with the backdrops. I couldn't have been more bored by a subscription MMO. Luckily, I haven't expected a good Final Fantasy game for years so I wasn't exactly disappointed either.
FFXIV has the same issue that most modern MMO's have today for me the leveling content is to easy. I got tired of the easy mode leveling content though I did enjoy the crafting which I would say is the best I played since SWG.
If your going to ask me to level from 1 to X I want some sorta challenge along the way. This is the major reason I don't last longer than a month or two anymore if that.
Each person that plays a game, plays for different reasons. Sometimes those reasons coincide with other people, and they join together and create groups, guilds, communities or whatever you want to call them. When these people come together for their enjoyment of the game, the sense of belonging and discovery is amplified.
I see a lot of bashing going on and people giving their two coppers of opinion on the subject, which is a lot more than some of these opinions are worth. To the OP, I'm glad that you're enjoying the game, as much as many of us that also play are, if not more. I enjoy the game, and I've played more games than many people have.
I've been playing MMOs since 1996 with Meridian 59 and The Realm, and I've seen a lot of games come, and many of them go. Everyone has an opinion on what they think of each game. Rather than bashing a game because you (personally) don't care for it, why not just go troll the forums for the games that you do like, instead of coming into the forums for games that you don't and cluttering the threads up with your idiocy.
Personally, I like FFXIV, I'm enjoying the gameplay, the combat system isn't as active as I would prefer, but it isn't nearly as bad as World of WarCRAPs and what they've done to their class/talent systems. At least there is versatility in FFXIV that you really won't find in many other MMOs, add into that the fact that the developers update regularly and communicate with the player-base, makes for a winning game.
The main reason that I continue to play FFXIV, though, is the community. While there are some people that I would much rather not associate with, the majority of players that I've communicated in game are pleasant and enjoyable to converse with, not to mention group with and kill stuff.
OP, I hope that the sense of wonder and enjoyment for the game isn't lost because of a few opinionated people that have nothing better to do with their time than to troll forums for a game they obviously don't enjoy.
Originally posted by Albatroes please say how awesome the game is after your first 30 days are up....
10 months later and those strengths are still there. What's the point of your comment? To bait the op into a fight or just trying to upset somebody who is excited?
Seems to me he's simply asking the OP to come back and let us know if they still think the game is awesome after 30 days are up.
True, it has a negative ring to it, but hey... some poeple aren't crazy about the game. Welcome to reality. People have different opinions/views. It's really no different than the people declaring it as the best MMO on the market; just the other end of the spectrum.
Regardless, Albatroes isn't not picking a fight. If anyone is, it's you.
I tend to agree with Altbatroes's sentiment. As someone who played from 1.0 and was there 'til the servers came down with 1.23, I came to ARR quite hopeful, despite concerns that began to build up pre-launch. I was excited enough to buy a PS3 CE for $90, even though I didn't have to buy it again.
After how Yoshi-P turned around 1.0 and turned it into a legitimately fun game, with an awesome story arc by the end of 1.23, I had high hopes for what he could do with 2.0. I had no idea he'd toss so much of what he'd built by 1.23, and turn the game into yet another WoW-style themepark, drowned in FF fan service.
I found that the game was passable throughout. Not great, not terrible. Passable. The main storyline is neat, but needlessly dragged out with blatant filler content, and once you've finished it... the options the game gives you are really no different than many other MMOs out there. I found it not worth continuing the sub, so I cancelled before my first 30 days are up.
Personally, I think FFXI's storylines - every one of them - were far superior to ARR's, were far better presented, with more interesting quests, more interesting characters and better dialogue. ARR's storyline, most of the characters, the dialog, and don't even get me started on the voice acting, all have that generic Fantasy feel to them. They'd have done better saving the money spent on Voice Acting, and put it into more gameplay and content. In my opinion, of course.
Considering I played and loved FFXI for almost 8 years, that ARR couldn't keep me interested enough to stick around for more than 30 days, to me, says it all. It's disappointing, to say the least. I expected more from them.
Originally posted by TangentPoint Originally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by Albatroesplease say how awesome the game is after your first 30 days are up....
10 months later and those strengths are still there. What's the point of your comment? To bait the op into a fight or just trying to upset somebody who is excited?Seems to me he's simply asking the OP to come back and let us know if they still think the game is awesome after 30 days are up.
True, it has a negative ring to it, but hey... some poeple aren't crazy about the game. Welcome to reality. People have different opinions/views. It's really no different than the people declaring it as the best MMO on the market; just the other end of the spectrum.
Regardless, Albatroes isn't not picking a fight. If anyone is, it's you.
I tend to agree with Altbatroes's sentiment. As someone who played from 1.0 and was there 'til the servers came down with 1.23, I came to ARR quite hopeful, despite concerns that began to build up pre-launch. I was excited enough to buy a PS3 CE for $90, even though I didn't have to buy it again.
After how Yoshi-P turned around 1.0 and turned it into a legitimately fun game, with an awesome story arc by the end of 1.23, I had high hopes for what he could do with 2.0. I had no idea he'd toss so much of what he'd built by 1.23, and turn the game into yet another WoW-style themepark, drowned in FF fan service.
I found that the game was passable throughout. Not great, not terrible. Passable. The main storyline is neat, but needlessly dragged out with blatant filler content, and once you've finished it... the options the game gives you are really no different than many other MMOs out there. I found it not worth continuing the sub, so I cancelled before my first 30 days are up.
Personally, I think FFXI's storylines - every one of them - were far superior to ARR's, were far better presented, with more interesting quests, more interesting characters and better dialogue. ARR's storyline, most of the characters, the dialog, and don't even get me started on the voice acting, all have that generic Fantasy feel to them. They'd have done better saving the money spent on Voice Acting, and put it into more gameplay and content. In my opinion, of course.
Considering I played and loved FFXI for almost 8 years, that ARR couldn't keep me interested enough to stick around for more than 30 days, to me, says it all. It's disappointing, to say the least. I expected more from them.
Clearly, he is trolling the op. Anybody can see that.
The class system is just pure awesomeness! You can level up every class/profession/gathering profession on one character. Why other MMOs don't do this is beyond me. It's just too cool. It gives you tons of stuff to do if you want mix things up.
I haven't played FFXIV yet, but especially for the class system, I am sure it's not the same, but Eden Eternal, for example allows you to level up any class, and there are some other MMOs that allow cross-class combinations or sub classes like in Aura Kingdom and Rift (souls) which you can always change.
One thing for the OP , Once you , Start doing the Hard mode dungeons. You will see there a switch to the game and it 10 times faster with the difficulty still around same. If you you have not learn your jobs, then can be rough. Your just not slogging around on the older dungeons> The older dungeons make the game feel weak and uneventful, Hope they put echos or uncapped the older dungeons since it makes the game feel slow.
The Combat system after you get to lv 50 and i70 + gear really starts to show how good this game is . Also every other patch is one for the causals or mellow hardcores majority like patch 2.3 was a casual patch to get past roadblocks., The next patch 2.4 should be of the more extreme elite content again in 2 to 4 months. That seems to be the way, There adding the content.
I imo Feel this game one of the better Paid games were the content added , is worth it even though the game still growing. Got more in the last 270 days then some games that might have paid more for. Monthly and F2P.
I bought FFXIV 4 days ago now, im currently level 29 and i find myself getting bored now, I`m play a paladin and the combat just feels really slow. and everything that your class has is given to you, you don`t pick and choose what you want, the class system is just so linear. Like ide love to be able to choose between healing pally tank pally or dps pally (yes i know WoW has this kind of pally but i havent played WoW in a long long time and don`t plan to again)
The game itself is beautiful the zones are so well done, the ui is one of the best ive seen. But as of now, I don`t know what im going to do. Also ide like to state that a lot of the leveling gear is ugly AF
In regards to the class setup, being that you're 29 I suggest you keep going a bit. At 30 on your main class + 15 on the secondary class, you unlock Jobs (in your case I believe it was 30 Gladiator 15 Conjurer to unlock Paladin). You will have to perform a job based series of quests starting at level 30, then every 5 levels, which will grant you new job skills aside from the base skills you get automatically just from leveling.
Along with that you will also have a small amount of customization with cross class skills. In the case of your Paladin you will be able to access several skills from both the Conjurer (such as protect, cure, stoneskin, raise) and Marauder (foresight, bloodbath, fracture, mercy stroke, etc). You will be limited to 5 cross-class skills which allow you to set yourself up slightly customized such as taking most of the Conj skills and giving you the ability to play a bit of a support + backup heals role, or the marauder skills which can help you dish out some more damage or be even more defensive.
Of course being a paladin your main role in groups will pretty much always be the tank. But luckily the game allows you to play every job in 1 character so if you prefer to do something else like play DPS you can just switch. I personally have on my main character Bard as my main job with PLD, WHM, and MNK as my backups for playing different roles as my group needs.
I've been playing this game for about two to three days now and the first thing I want to announce to anyone thinking of getting the game is this:
After coming from pre-release date for ESO and the downslide of Cata for Wow, FFXIV has without a doubt the most genial and HELPFUL community. I am possitive there are still handfuls of trolls out there, but ALL save ONE person I have interracted with in the past few days has been WONDERFUL. Not only willing to answer newbie questions, but generous with their time and resources.
It's the sense of community that I haven't really experienced since Vanilla WoW.
Add to that that the game has some of the most beautiful and eye catching effects, spells, scenery, etc! I have never seen spell effects be so colorful, well designed, and just plain AWESOME. XD
Though I haven't experienced it yet for myself I can see how end game combat/options COULD be limited due to the fact that you're given class spells and only a few optional ones to add to the mix. It sounds like it could be cookie cutter but LET ME ALSO SAY THIS: I'm having a great time with the combat. (Though I do wish the GCD was just a LITTLE shorter, lol.)
Came back this weekend after having left before the relaunch initial month was completed. No regrets so far.
The amount of content is staggering and the patch notes are novels. It really puts some of the other modern MMOs in perspective on their content deliveries.
Sure I have some concerns here or there about it (i.e. grindy nature of some aspects of the game and my personal anxiety that I won't be able to level all of the classes that I want to level 50 on my main character--but, that's just me lol).
Might've found a game to finally stick with for a good while now.
Regarding your concerns about doing 50 in all the classes you want: Getting them all to 50 is the easy part. Just takes a few days each. But, I would suggest not worrying too much about doing this on 1 character. The whole "do everything in 1 character" concept is a bit misleading.
Technically yes you can play every class and get them to max level and some decent gear. The problem though comes wit getting the very best gear for each class due to various lockouts / caps. For example when they first released Crystal Tower you could only get 1 drop per week from it. Now they added Syrcus Tower as the next phase of CT and implemented the same lockout. 1 piece of equipment per character per week. It will take you many months at that rate just to gear up a few different classes in those armor sets. IMO I still think they should have made it a 1 piece per job / class, not per character lockout.
Along with that, some of the other top end gear is gained through currency like Soldier marks, which have a 450 per week cap. Again with this gear youre looking at only being able to purchase 1 piece every week or 2 per character.
Then you also have the gear from Coil. In coil you can get multiple pieces, but you can only run the higher levels of coil (which give the best gear) once per week. So there is a possibility if youre unlucky that you will get absolutely no gear for several weeks that will drop for your class and you cant run it again to try to get something until the following week.
All of these things tie together in a system which basically allows you to fairly easily max out 1 class, but does not allow you you to do the same for other classes before the next update comes out with a new tier of gear to work towards. So any alt classes you have will only wind up being in 2nd rate gear.
In the end, youre better off having multiple characters with their own weekly caps / lockouts for multiple jobs. With a bit of luck (mainly getting coil drops that someone else doesnt already need for their main class so you can snatch it up), you can manage to do fairly well with 2 jobs but even that is pushing it since some of the best in slot stuff require you to deal with currency caps.
Yeah, the game is quite fun but has one big issue: LATENCY. EU players are forced to play on canadian servers, where the data centers are located. The lowest ping I could get was 120ms-150ms (with 220ms as average). And I live in Poland.
I bought FFXIV 4 days ago now, im currently level 29 and i find myself getting bored now, I`m play a paladin and the combat just feels really slow. and everything that your class has is given to you, you don`t pick and choose what you want, the class system is just so linear. Like ide love to be able to choose between healing pally tank pally or dps pally (yes i know WoW has this kind of pally but i havent played WoW in a long long time and don`t plan to again)
To be quite honest, Paladin is probably one of the more dull jobs to play, however it suffers the same effect of pretty much every class or job pre-30: it just doesn't have its full repertoire of abilities available yet.
At level 50 you're going to be spamming that same 1-2-3 combo, but Paladin gets a couple more off-CD abilities at 45 and 50, a damage and tank stance, and a plethora of defensive cooldowns.
Honestly if you want to play a more engaging tank job, Warrior is probably better. You have the same 1-2-3 enmity combo, but later on you also have two other combos you can use that reduce damage dealt by a target and increases your slashing damage to a target, so you have some choices. The tradeoff is they have less defensive cooldowns.
If you want to play something different altogether, Monk is probably the job that feels the fastest, as you're constantly moving from flank to rear with your combos (again, they suffer the same effect of every other class/job pre-30) and as you get higher in level your skill speed buff improves, putting you under 2 seconds per ability at level 50.
Basically you just need to find something you like, but you have to get in the higher levels before everything comes together, regardless of what you're playing.
Originally posted by TangentPoint
I found that the game was passable throughout. Not great, not terrible. Passable. The main storyline is neat, but needlessly dragged out with blatant filler content, and once you've finished it... the options the game gives you are really no different than many other MMOs out there. I found it not worth continuing the sub, so I cancelled before my first 30 days are up.
You should probably try the free weekend coming up. There's a lot that has changed since the initial 30 days. Tons of both side and endgame content. They also just recently put in something similar to NM hunting in FFXI, except people try to cooperate to get it done.
I really attribute FFXIV's success less towards it being a good game, and more towards the competition being incredibly mediocre.
ESO was, is, and will likely remain hot garbage. Literally a joke of a game which, without it's franchise title, would never have succeeded at all, and, in all seriousness, reminds me of Vanilla FFXIV at release (with the copy-paste dungeons especially)
Wildstar is literally just another WoW clone with some cute distractions. Definitely the first MMO I was exhausted of looking at within 5 hours of playing it.
SWTOR is the definition of "pay to win", and arguably the filthiest cashgrab ever produced by a big-name studio.
Rift was alright in it's prime, but it shows it's age.
FFXI is literally a shadow of what it once was, after pandering to the ultra-casual players over the years.
Eve is still Eve; either you love it or hate it and there's nothing in the middle.
TERA flopped pretty badly.
WoW is still WoW; everyone's played it at least once, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
I might be missing a few more, but those are the big name titles.
Let's also not forget.... FFXIV released twice. You have to think what a laughing stock of a company you'd be if, with 2 separate releases 2 years apart for the same game, you failed to produce 1 quality title. Hence, people come from playing ESO and see FFXIV, and they're like "Wow, a game that actually works and looks semi-modern...? Hurray!"
For me, FFXIV was a brief, semi-enjoyable ride. But as others said, when you finish the content, there's nothing at all to do besides grind dailies and wait for resets. That doesn't constitute a "complete" game in my book, and certainly doesn't justify a subscription fee.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
I really attribute FFXIV's success less towards it being a good game, and more towards the competition being incredibly mediocre.
ESO was, is, and will likely remain hot garbage. Literally a joke of a game which, without it's franchise title, would never have succeeded at all, and, in all seriousness, reminds me of Vanilla FFXIV at release (with the copy-paste dungeons especially)
Wildstar is literally just another WoW clone with some cute distractions. Definitely the first MMO I was exhausted of looking at within 5 hours of playing it.
SWTOR is the definition of "pay to win", and arguably the filthiest cashgrab ever produced by a big-name studio.
Rift was alright in it's prime, but it shows it's age.
FFXI is literally a shadow of what it once was, after pandering to the ultra-casual players over the years.
Eve is still Eve; either you love it or hate it and there's nothing in the middle.
TERA flopped pretty badly.
WoW is still WoW; everyone's played it at least once, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
I might be missing a few more, but those are the big name titles.
Let's also not forget.... FFXIV released twice. You have to think what a laughing stock of a company you'd be if, with 2 separate releases 2 years apart for the same game, you failed to produce 1 quality title. Hence, people come from playing ESO and see FFXIV, and they're like "Wow, a game that actually works and looks semi-modern...? Hurray!"
For me, FFXIV was a brief, semi-enjoyable ride. But as others said, when you finish the content, there's nothing at all to do besides grind dailies and wait for resets. That doesn't constitute a "complete" game in my book, and certainly doesn't justify a subscription fee.
I disagree. FF14 is worth it for me and actually the sub cost is less than other games $13 vs $15. There are consistently adding new content and activities for players to participate in. For example the last patch added new main story quests with Ramuh hard and extreme modes, the second part of the crystal tower 24 man raid accompanied with more story quests, more hildibrand quests (my favorite), 24v24v24 pvp battleground that has been receiving updates since it went live to improve player experience, chocobo raising, private chambers in guild housing (like a personal room), gardening, the Hunt and some other stuff I am probably missing.
So there are always lots of activites to participate in this game with more to come, like new class and job and gold saucer minigame hub next patch.
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Playing on Cerberus (EU) myself and started around Gradania. Damn, it's very crowded there and in the low level zones where i'm leveling at the moment. People running everywhere, even on odd hours like Monday morning. Never thought that a game that flopped so badly initially could become so good and popular!
Between desynth, gathering, crafting, ventures, gardening,chocobo training, and housing...its like, "combat? This game has that too?"
I haven't been this gleefully overwhelmed since swg's jump to lightspeed expansion.
In about four months we will get 2.4 haha. I'm almost wanting to tell yoshi to slow down
And they added new crafting/gathering gear this patch as well...as if I did t have enough on my plate already.
Came back this weekend after having left before the relaunch initial month was completed. No regrets so far.
The amount of content is staggering and the patch notes are novels. It really puts some of the other modern MMOs in perspective on their content deliveries.
Sure I have some concerns here or there about it (i.e. grindy nature of some aspects of the game and my personal anxiety that I won't be able to level all of the classes that I want to level 50 on my main character--but, that's just me lol).
Might've found a game to finally stick with for a good while now.
They're supposed to be having a free weekend event this weekend.
If that's where you stopped playing previous, there's SO much content you haven't even begun to scratch the surface of.
I stopped playing regularly recently because it has TOO MUCH content. A lot of the content requires you log on everyday to just get stuff done, especially the Relic weapons. However, there are a lot of different ways to get stuff done.
If i focus on raiding and doing frontlines for my myth and soldiery grind, and also Syrcus Tower (24 man casual Raid), I should have my two favorite jobs (warrior/sch) geared enough to try the new content as they come out.
The cool thing about the game is something called the Echo buff. If you're behind, you can still get a dedicated FC or group of friends to help you through the content. My friend who had been gone for 7 months, came back 2 months ago. Within 2-3 weeks, he had one i90+ Dragoon who is ready to try anything new content the game has to offer.
It's really great to see a game offer so much content for a daily basis and still give new people a way to catch up.
It's a very solid themepark mmo where people see where their subscription is going. I see this game staying P2P for years and years to come. It's so popular that the fanfest for October in Las Vegas has already sold out.
Like i said, the problem with me is that there's too much content and I find myself playing too much at the expense of family, work, other hobbies. But if you enjoy mmo's and you avhe the time for it, this game will keep you busy!
Hmm didn't you just stop by the Swtor thread and put in your two cent slander about that game? Maybe you should eat your own cookie?
I didn't slander SWToR. I said it had a great story, and the rest of the game was standard MMO fare. That's not slander. Get over it.
No you said pretty good story but that's where the "fun bus" stops, to me that sounds like nothing else is fun in Swtor (slander) Maybe instead of calling out others for bashing your game maybe you should start by staying away from game you don't like. Just a thought though trying to help your credibility a bit that's all.
Haha, I don't need your help or care about what you think of my credibility, my opinion is my opinion and I'll continue to share it. If you think that was an insult to SWToR, you are wrong. Sorry you feel like I slandered your game, but the fault is with you and your line of thought, not me.
Oh I don't care if you like Swtor or not you are right it's your opinion. But when the OP states he wants to know why people think it's the best and clearly states this is not a thread to post why you dislike Swtor. But you reply and a agree with a poster who clearly bashes Swtor while finishing it up with your two cents that would be no different then what the poster you are calling out is doing. Now I'm not defending or agreeing with what he says just saying you are not the best fit to offer him a cookie especially since you do the same to other games.
So yep not my fault...
Yes, it is your fault. The op never asked why it was the best. He was stating how amazing the game is. The fact that your here bashing people makes you look childish.
I too went to the same thread and gave my 2 cents. You going to flame me to for my opinion. And I agree, the fun bus does stop with story in SWTOR. Sad but true.
Playing on Cerberus (EU) myself and started around Gradania. Damn, it's very crowded there and in the low level zones where i'm leveling at the moment. People running everywhere, even on odd hours like Monday morning. Never thought that a game that flopped so badly initially could become so good and popular!
IKR Cactuar is the same way. My eight core and GTX 770 drop fps in all 3 city states. I can't get to a summoning bell either some times. LOL
Wow, that's a lot of replies!
A few people mentioned that it's all quests, quests, quests and quests. From my limited experience so far, yes there are a lot of quests but that's not the only thing you can do. There are Fates which give nice xp. Also I there are guildhests and levequests which are a nice touch. They are quite fun to do. There is also the hunting log which helps quite a bit with the levelling. And there are dungeons obviously.
The presentation in this game doesn't stop to pleasantly surprise me. I went to my inn when it got unlocked and they have a nice book which summarises the story so far and there are quite a few items which I am not sure what they do as most of them are locked at the moment.
But I like the story quest line so far and I am mostly focusing on that which at the moment is more than enough to level up.
I don't know what the endgame holds but I am enjoying the levelling experience quite a bit. Even if I don't like the endgame, the levelling is more than worth it. Although I think I might like what they have for their endgame from reading some of the recent patch notes.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
I bought FFXIV 4 days ago now, im currently level 29 and i find myself getting bored now, I`m play a paladin and the combat just feels really slow. and everything that your class has is given to you, you don`t pick and choose what you want, the class system is just so linear. Like ide love to be able to choose between healing pally tank pally or dps pally (yes i know WoW has this kind of pally but i havent played WoW in a long long time and don`t plan to again)
The game itself is beautiful the zones are so well done, the ui is one of the best ive seen. But as of now, I don`t know what im going to do. Also ide like to state that a lot of the leveling gear is ugly AF
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=284512442 This was my paladin at lvl 13 or so SMH
I didn't last 30 days in FFXIV. I agree about the combat system, slow and stand-still-to-cast is no way to go through life son. Also, a lot of people love the graphics in the game but the only thing I saw that stood out were the actual area designs and textures. Like you said, a lot of the characters have this plastic look to them that doesn't fit with the backdrops. I couldn't have been more bored by a subscription MMO. Luckily, I haven't expected a good Final Fantasy game for years so I wasn't exactly disappointed either.
FFXIV has the same issue that most modern MMO's have today for me the leveling content is to easy. I got tired of the easy mode leveling content though I did enjoy the crafting which I would say is the best I played since SWG.
If your going to ask me to level from 1 to X I want some sorta challenge along the way. This is the major reason I don't last longer than a month or two anymore if that.
Each person that plays a game, plays for different reasons. Sometimes those reasons coincide with other people, and they join together and create groups, guilds, communities or whatever you want to call them. When these people come together for their enjoyment of the game, the sense of belonging and discovery is amplified.
I see a lot of bashing going on and people giving their two coppers of opinion on the subject, which is a lot more than some of these opinions are worth. To the OP, I'm glad that you're enjoying the game, as much as many of us that also play are, if not more. I enjoy the game, and I've played more games than many people have.
I've been playing MMOs since 1996 with Meridian 59 and The Realm, and I've seen a lot of games come, and many of them go. Everyone has an opinion on what they think of each game. Rather than bashing a game because you (personally) don't care for it, why not just go troll the forums for the games that you do like, instead of coming into the forums for games that you don't and cluttering the threads up with your idiocy.
Personally, I like FFXIV, I'm enjoying the gameplay, the combat system isn't as active as I would prefer, but it isn't nearly as bad as World of WarCRAPs and what they've done to their class/talent systems. At least there is versatility in FFXIV that you really won't find in many other MMOs, add into that the fact that the developers update regularly and communicate with the player-base, makes for a winning game.
The main reason that I continue to play FFXIV, though, is the community. While there are some people that I would much rather not associate with, the majority of players that I've communicated in game are pleasant and enjoyable to converse with, not to mention group with and kill stuff.
OP, I hope that the sense of wonder and enjoyment for the game isn't lost because of a few opinionated people that have nothing better to do with their time than to troll forums for a game they obviously don't enjoy.
Seems to me he's simply asking the OP to come back and let us know if they still think the game is awesome after 30 days are up.
True, it has a negative ring to it, but hey... some poeple aren't crazy about the game. Welcome to reality. People have different opinions/views. It's really no different than the people declaring it as the best MMO on the market; just the other end of the spectrum.
Regardless, Albatroes isn't not picking a fight. If anyone is, it's you.
I tend to agree with Altbatroes's sentiment. As someone who played from 1.0 and was there 'til the servers came down with 1.23, I came to ARR quite hopeful, despite concerns that began to build up pre-launch. I was excited enough to buy a PS3 CE for $90, even though I didn't have to buy it again.
After how Yoshi-P turned around 1.0 and turned it into a legitimately fun game, with an awesome story arc by the end of 1.23, I had high hopes for what he could do with 2.0. I had no idea he'd toss so much of what he'd built by 1.23, and turn the game into yet another WoW-style themepark, drowned in FF fan service.
I found that the game was passable throughout. Not great, not terrible. Passable. The main storyline is neat, but needlessly dragged out with blatant filler content, and once you've finished it... the options the game gives you are really no different than many other MMOs out there. I found it not worth continuing the sub, so I cancelled before my first 30 days are up.
Personally, I think FFXI's storylines - every one of them - were far superior to ARR's, were far better presented, with more interesting quests, more interesting characters and better dialogue. ARR's storyline, most of the characters, the dialog, and don't even get me started on the voice acting, all have that generic Fantasy feel to them. They'd have done better saving the money spent on Voice Acting, and put it into more gameplay and content. In my opinion, of course.
Considering I played and loved FFXI for almost 8 years, that ARR couldn't keep me interested enough to stick around for more than 30 days, to me, says it all. It's disappointing, to say the least. I expected more from them.
Just like the Positive Police show up in any thread that's critical, and launch into their usual antics.
Business as usual, in other words. This is a message forum, not an echo chamber for FFXIV fans.
You must be new around here. (<--- that was sarcasm)
Seems to me he's simply asking the OP to come back and let us know if they still think the game is awesome after 30 days are up.
True, it has a negative ring to it, but hey... some poeple aren't crazy about the game. Welcome to reality. People have different opinions/views. It's really no different than the people declaring it as the best MMO on the market; just the other end of the spectrum.
Regardless, Albatroes isn't not picking a fight. If anyone is, it's you.
I tend to agree with Altbatroes's sentiment. As someone who played from 1.0 and was there 'til the servers came down with 1.23, I came to ARR quite hopeful, despite concerns that began to build up pre-launch. I was excited enough to buy a PS3 CE for $90, even though I didn't have to buy it again.
After how Yoshi-P turned around 1.0 and turned it into a legitimately fun game, with an awesome story arc by the end of 1.23, I had high hopes for what he could do with 2.0. I had no idea he'd toss so much of what he'd built by 1.23, and turn the game into yet another WoW-style themepark, drowned in FF fan service.
I found that the game was passable throughout. Not great, not terrible. Passable. The main storyline is neat, but needlessly dragged out with blatant filler content, and once you've finished it... the options the game gives you are really no different than many other MMOs out there. I found it not worth continuing the sub, so I cancelled before my first 30 days are up.
Personally, I think FFXI's storylines - every one of them - were far superior to ARR's, were far better presented, with more interesting quests, more interesting characters and better dialogue. ARR's storyline, most of the characters, the dialog, and don't even get me started on the voice acting, all have that generic Fantasy feel to them. They'd have done better saving the money spent on Voice Acting, and put it into more gameplay and content. In my opinion, of course.
Considering I played and loved FFXI for almost 8 years, that ARR couldn't keep me interested enough to stick around for more than 30 days, to me, says it all. It's disappointing, to say the least. I expected more from them.
Clearly, he is trolling the op. Anybody can see that.
I haven't played FFXIV yet, but especially for the class system, I am sure it's not the same, but Eden Eternal, for example allows you to level up any class, and there are some other MMOs that allow cross-class combinations or sub classes like in Aura Kingdom and Rift (souls) which you can always change.
One thing for the OP , Once you , Start doing the Hard mode dungeons. You will see there a switch to the game and it 10 times faster with the difficulty still around same. If you you have not learn your jobs, then can be rough. Your just not slogging around on the older dungeons> The older dungeons make the game feel weak and uneventful, Hope they put echos or uncapped the older dungeons since it makes the game feel slow.
The Combat system after you get to lv 50 and i70 + gear really starts to show how good this game is . Also every other patch is one for the causals or mellow hardcores majority like patch 2.3 was a casual patch to get past roadblocks., The next patch 2.4 should be of the more extreme elite content again in 2 to 4 months. That seems to be the way, There adding the content.
I imo Feel this game one of the better Paid games were the content added , is worth it even though the game still growing. Got more in the last 270 days then some games that might have paid more for. Monthly and F2P.
They all ready said that the expansion will be big as version 2.0 launch Content wise. http://www.usgamer.net/articles/final-fantasy-xivs-first-expansion-will-be-as-big-as-the-base-game
In regards to the class setup, being that you're 29 I suggest you keep going a bit. At 30 on your main class + 15 on the secondary class, you unlock Jobs (in your case I believe it was 30 Gladiator 15 Conjurer to unlock Paladin). You will have to perform a job based series of quests starting at level 30, then every 5 levels, which will grant you new job skills aside from the base skills you get automatically just from leveling.
Along with that you will also have a small amount of customization with cross class skills. In the case of your Paladin you will be able to access several skills from both the Conjurer (such as protect, cure, stoneskin, raise) and Marauder (foresight, bloodbath, fracture, mercy stroke, etc). You will be limited to 5 cross-class skills which allow you to set yourself up slightly customized such as taking most of the Conj skills and giving you the ability to play a bit of a support + backup heals role, or the marauder skills which can help you dish out some more damage or be even more defensive.
Of course being a paladin your main role in groups will pretty much always be the tank. But luckily the game allows you to play every job in 1 character so if you prefer to do something else like play DPS you can just switch. I personally have on my main character Bard as my main job with PLD, WHM, and MNK as my backups for playing different roles as my group needs.
I've been playing this game for about two to three days now and the first thing I want to announce to anyone thinking of getting the game is this:
After coming from pre-release date for ESO and the downslide of Cata for Wow, FFXIV has without a doubt the most genial and HELPFUL community. I am possitive there are still handfuls of trolls out there, but ALL save ONE person I have interracted with in the past few days has been WONDERFUL. Not only willing to answer newbie questions, but generous with their time and resources.
It's the sense of community that I haven't really experienced since Vanilla WoW.
Add to that that the game has some of the most beautiful and eye catching effects, spells, scenery, etc! I have never seen spell effects be so colorful, well designed, and just plain AWESOME. XD
Though I haven't experienced it yet for myself I can see how end game combat/options COULD be limited due to the fact that you're given class spells and only a few optional ones to add to the mix. It sounds like it could be cookie cutter but LET ME ALSO SAY THIS: I'm having a great time with the combat. (Though I do wish the GCD was just a LITTLE shorter, lol.)
Regarding your concerns about doing 50 in all the classes you want: Getting them all to 50 is the easy part. Just takes a few days each. But, I would suggest not worrying too much about doing this on 1 character. The whole "do everything in 1 character" concept is a bit misleading.
Technically yes you can play every class and get them to max level and some decent gear. The problem though comes wit getting the very best gear for each class due to various lockouts / caps. For example when they first released Crystal Tower you could only get 1 drop per week from it. Now they added Syrcus Tower as the next phase of CT and implemented the same lockout. 1 piece of equipment per character per week. It will take you many months at that rate just to gear up a few different classes in those armor sets. IMO I still think they should have made it a 1 piece per job / class, not per character lockout.
Along with that, some of the other top end gear is gained through currency like Soldier marks, which have a 450 per week cap. Again with this gear youre looking at only being able to purchase 1 piece every week or 2 per character.
Then you also have the gear from Coil. In coil you can get multiple pieces, but you can only run the higher levels of coil (which give the best gear) once per week. So there is a possibility if youre unlucky that you will get absolutely no gear for several weeks that will drop for your class and you cant run it again to try to get something until the following week.
All of these things tie together in a system which basically allows you to fairly easily max out 1 class, but does not allow you you to do the same for other classes before the next update comes out with a new tier of gear to work towards. So any alt classes you have will only wind up being in 2nd rate gear.
In the end, youre better off having multiple characters with their own weekly caps / lockouts for multiple jobs. With a bit of luck (mainly getting coil drops that someone else doesnt already need for their main class so you can snatch it up), you can manage to do fairly well with 2 jobs but even that is pushing it since some of the best in slot stuff require you to deal with currency caps.
To be quite honest, Paladin is probably one of the more dull jobs to play, however it suffers the same effect of pretty much every class or job pre-30: it just doesn't have its full repertoire of abilities available yet.
At level 50 you're going to be spamming that same 1-2-3 combo, but Paladin gets a couple more off-CD abilities at 45 and 50, a damage and tank stance, and a plethora of defensive cooldowns.
Honestly if you want to play a more engaging tank job, Warrior is probably better. You have the same 1-2-3 enmity combo, but later on you also have two other combos you can use that reduce damage dealt by a target and increases your slashing damage to a target, so you have some choices. The tradeoff is they have less defensive cooldowns.
If you want to play something different altogether, Monk is probably the job that feels the fastest, as you're constantly moving from flank to rear with your combos (again, they suffer the same effect of every other class/job pre-30) and as you get higher in level your skill speed buff improves, putting you under 2 seconds per ability at level 50.
Basically you just need to find something you like, but you have to get in the higher levels before everything comes together, regardless of what you're playing.
You should probably try the free weekend coming up. There's a lot that has changed since the initial 30 days. Tons of both side and endgame content. They also just recently put in something similar to NM hunting in FFXI, except people try to cooperate to get it done.
I really attribute FFXIV's success less towards it being a good game, and more towards the competition being incredibly mediocre.
ESO was, is, and will likely remain hot garbage. Literally a joke of a game which, without it's franchise title, would never have succeeded at all, and, in all seriousness, reminds me of Vanilla FFXIV at release (with the copy-paste dungeons especially)
Wildstar is literally just another WoW clone with some cute distractions. Definitely the first MMO I was exhausted of looking at within 5 hours of playing it.
SWTOR is the definition of "pay to win", and arguably the filthiest cashgrab ever produced by a big-name studio.
Rift was alright in it's prime, but it shows it's age.
FFXI is literally a shadow of what it once was, after pandering to the ultra-casual players over the years.
Eve is still Eve; either you love it or hate it and there's nothing in the middle.
TERA flopped pretty badly.
WoW is still WoW; everyone's played it at least once, but it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
I might be missing a few more, but those are the big name titles.
Let's also not forget.... FFXIV released twice. You have to think what a laughing stock of a company you'd be if, with 2 separate releases 2 years apart for the same game, you failed to produce 1 quality title. Hence, people come from playing ESO and see FFXIV, and they're like "Wow, a game that actually works and looks semi-modern...? Hurray!"
For me, FFXIV was a brief, semi-enjoyable ride. But as others said, when you finish the content, there's nothing at all to do besides grind dailies and wait for resets. That doesn't constitute a "complete" game in my book, and certainly doesn't justify a subscription fee.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
I disagree. FF14 is worth it for me and actually the sub cost is less than other games $13 vs $15. There are consistently adding new content and activities for players to participate in. For example the last patch added new main story quests with Ramuh hard and extreme modes, the second part of the crystal tower 24 man raid accompanied with more story quests, more hildibrand quests (my favorite), 24v24v24 pvp battleground that has been receiving updates since it went live to improve player experience, chocobo raising, private chambers in guild housing (like a personal room), gardening, the Hunt and some other stuff I am probably missing.
So there are always lots of activites to participate in this game with more to come, like new class and job and gold saucer minigame hub next patch.