MMO without combat?

SEANMCAD

If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

Myrdynn

Originally posted by SEANMCAD
If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

I would say Landmark is boring as crap

 

NymiethePooh

It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

mbrodie

Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

SEANMCAD

Originally posted by mbrodie

Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

I like it. This is this kind of thinking/discussion I was hoped to spark.

really just about anything can be made a video game as long as it has interaction with some level of depth. 

rojoArcueid

Originally posted by mbrodie

Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

on a good racing mmo where i can modify my car and all that, as soon as someone calls the police there will be combat involved. Highway fights trying to make the bastards crash lol.
If its violent, its combat IMO

Sevenstar61

I would be extremely interested. I was looking recently for a decent MMOs with interesting theme without combat, but with no luck. MMO that could actually help to develop you spiritually or intellectually, something like TSW without zombies, but with all the investigation quests leading you to the discovery of the secret of the universe. I would dive into game like that.

mbrodie

Originally posted by rojoArcueid

Originally posted by mbrodie

Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

on a good racing mmo where i can modify my car and all that, as soon as someone calls the police there will be combat involved. Highway fights trying to make the bastards crash lol.
If its violent, its combat IMO

i suppose, you could also bring violence into it i guess, allowing you to steal other players cars when you kill them full open world PvP... but that could end up turning into a massive sh*t storm.. i dunno, i just want an amazing racing MMO... the crew looks alright, but i dont think it'll have the level of depth i want.

SEANMCAD

Originally posted by mbrodie

Originally posted by rojoArcueid

Originally posted by mbrodie

Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

on a good racing mmo where i can modify my car and all that, as soon as someone calls the police there will be combat involved. Highway fights trying to make the bastards crash lol.
If its violent, its combat IMO

i suppose, you could also bring violence into it i guess, allowing you to steal other players cars when you kill them full open world PvP... but that could end up turning into a massive sh*t storm.. i dunno, i just want an amazing racing MMO... the crew looks alright, but i dont think it'll have the level of depth i want.

I have a friend who fights with his expenses all the time because he likes to fix up motorcycles, tear them up, build them back up again. I often wonder how he would take to a  video game that allowed him to do the same

Foomerang

There ya go. SOme of the better ones have shut down so I didn't list them (Habbo, Glitch)

http://www.atitd.com/
http://www.puzzlepirates.com/
http://tale-of-tales.com/TheEndlessForest/
http://audition.redbana.com/
http://www.wanderthegame.com/
http://www.transformice.com/
http://stardewvalley.net/
http://www.velvetsundown.com/
http://www.everjane.com/

KyutaSyuko

Not as in-depth as discussed but here's something might be worth checking out http://world.needforspeed.com/

mbrodie

Originally posted by KyutaSyuko
Not as in-depth as discussed but here's something might be worth checking out http://world.needforspeed.com/

yeah not even close, that game should never have even been made :P

AlBQuirky

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Originally posted by mbrodie

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Originally posted by rojoArcueid

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Originally posted by mbrodie

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Originally posted by NymiethePooh
It really depends on what they do plan to do. Combat is an activity. One that takes a lot of time in many MMOs. They would need something to replace it, or multiple somethings, that could occupy our time. Whatever replaces it would need to feel like a core aspect of the gameplay and simply not a timesink to keep us in game longer.

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if you made a good MMO based around cars, where you can tune, modify, race, hold racing events where you can block of roads and the cops can get called in.... maybe to some degree, letting you design body kits to sell in game or like mechanically minded people can tune / modify other peoples vehicles who arent mechanically minded.. like a real life sorta sim with cars.. that wouldnt require combat.... but i mean almost like real life type modifications and tuning, down to needing to change tools to undo parts in the engine bay etc... it would be pretty intense.. but i think it could be really awesome too

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on a good racing mmo where i can modify my car and all that, as soon as someone calls the police there will be combat involved. Highway fights trying to make the bastards crash lol. If its violent, its combat IMO

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i suppose, you could also bring violence into it i guess, allowing you to steal other players cars when you kill them full open world PvP... but that could end up turning into a massive sh*t storm.. i dunno, i just want an amazing racing MMO... the crew looks alright, but i dont think it'll have the level of depth i want.

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Now this is sounding more like "Deathrace 2000"
(Points for killing pedestrians and such.)

Dauntis

Does there really need to be a racing MMO? Most modern racing games have online play options. And if you make it interesting like Death Race 2000 then you are right back to having combat.

mbrodie

Originally posted by Dauntis
Does there really need to be a racing MMO? Most modern racing games have online play options. And if you make it interesting like Death Race 2000 then you are right back to having combat.

none of the racing games have what im talking about

Nebless

There's already been a few.  Even though it's past it's time and on the down hill slide, MYST ONLINE comes to mind.  No combat, has puzzles and makes you think.

Mr.Kujo

Originally posted by SEANMCAD
If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

 

Since you said MMO, there is nothing out of ordinary in that statement. There are lots of genres that do not include fighting, sims, racers, puzzle games, platformers etc. Any can be turn into  a boring massive multiplayer, and any will find few people that will like it...

doodphace

This thread is 2 pages deep, and some have supplied "lists" of non combat MMOs, yet so far nobody has mentioned second life?

For a forum community that prides itslef on being extreemly knowledgable about MMOs, to debate the merits of "need for speed online" and yet not once acknowldge second life's existance, is quite amusing.

PioneerStew

Originally posted by doodphace

This thread is 2 pages deep, and some have supplied "lists" of non combat MMOs, yet so far nobody has mentioned second life?

For a forum community that prides itslef on being extreemly knowledgable about MMOs, to debate the merits of "need for speed online" and yet not once acknowldge second life's existance, is quite amusing.

Is second life actually a game?  I remember it being all over the news about 6-8 years ago and companies dropping absurd amounts of money on advertising there- funny times.  

doodphace

Originally posted by PioneerStew

Originally posted by doodphace

This thread is 2 pages deep, and some have supplied "lists" of non combat MMOs, yet so far nobody has mentioned second life?

For a forum community that prides itslef on being extreemly knowledgable about MMOs, to debate the merits of "need for speed online" and yet not once acknowldge second life's existance, is quite amusing.

Is second life actually a game?  I remember it being all over the news about 6-8 years ago and companies dropping absurd amounts of money on advertising there- funny times.  

Yes...yes it is...and is prob the the most successful and popular "non combat MMO" ever released.

Octagon7711

I was thinking about Second Life but it does have combat in sections.  Then again it has everything you could think of in certain areas.  I would like a space exploration and galactic trade game without combat.  Don't the Sims have an MMO?  

SEANMCAD

Originally posted by doodphace

Originally posted by PioneerStew

Originally posted by doodphace

This thread is 2 pages deep, and some have supplied "lists" of non combat MMOs, yet so far nobody has mentioned second life?

For a forum community that prides itslef on being extreemly knowledgable about MMOs, to debate the merits of "need for speed online" and yet not once acknowldge second life's existance, is quite amusing.

Is second life actually a game?  I remember it being all over the news about 6-8 years ago and companies dropping absurd amounts of money on advertising there- funny times.  

Yes...yes it is...and is prob the the most successful and popular "non combat MMO" ever released.

I think the game has 1 million paying subscribers today.

Its been around forever, I think the small team is making enough money that they really dont care to advertise.

versulas

Originally posted by PioneerStew

Is second life actually a game?  I remember it being all over the news about 6-8 years ago and companies dropping absurd amounts of money on advertising there- funny times.  

You'll start hearing about it again when it gets its oculus rift update... unfortunately.

nariusseldon

Originally posted by SEANMCAD
If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

I would say "no combat" is not a game. Don't tell me what is NOT in the game. Tell me what is in the game.

Is it going to be a puzzle game? Building game?

 

Nadia

Originally posted by SEANMCAD
If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

the mmo A Tale in the Desert has no combat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Tale_in_the_Desert

 

cant say it appeals to me tho

nariusseldon

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by SEANMCAD
If a dev said they plan to break away from old school conventional thinking and explorer making an MMO with no combat at all what would you say?

the mmo A Tale in the Desert has no combat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Tale_in_the_Desert

 

cant say it appeals to me tho

yeah .. that is a crafting game. I will pass.